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Post by Q3 on Jun 13, 2016 1:13:53 GMT -5
Adam looked particularly gorgeous tonight.
New thread is up!
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Post by Q3 on Jun 13, 2016 1:15:10 GMT -5
Brian has two guitar techs -- Pete and Steve. I can't remember Steve's last name right now -- it is late and I am tired. Steve is the B Guitar Tech, #2 to Pete. Steve sometimes brings out Brian's guitars. ETA: When did Adam change his Twitter page to Queen vs. CGH? That was on June 9, Thank you!! I saw it but did not pay attention. I take it as a sign of how much the Isle of Wight Festival performance meant to him.
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Post by seoulmate on Jun 13, 2016 1:35:02 GMT -5
Can't wait to devour the vids as they come in of what seems like an epic performance by QAL. Chiming in for a moment on the Orlando shooting and very real despair around what will it take to change things. Seoulmate was correct. It will take physical action in the streets. Social media is fine and good to spread messages and share that despair but no major social change (and this would be major social change) happens without people standing up, marching out, refusing to move. It has to be impossible for lawmakers to ignore. It has to be an overwhelming show of outrage not a #prayforX hashtag. It has to make lawmakers fear for their positions of power if they don't act. That is exactly correct. The whole bullshit about "thoughts and prayers" makes the entire world collectively do an eye roll. Masses in the streets... for weeks and months (or longer) would eventually work. That, and actually voting for a change.
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Post by Q3 on Jun 13, 2016 1:48:05 GMT -5
Can't wait to devour the vids as they come in of what seems like an epic performance by QAL. Chiming in for a moment on the Orlando shooting and very real despair around what will it take to change things. Seoulmate was correct. It will take physical action in the streets. Social media is fine and good to spread messages and share that despair but no major social change (and this would be major social change) happens without people standing up, marching out, refusing to move. It has to be impossible for lawmakers to ignore. It has to be an overwhelming show of outrage not a #prayforX hashtag. It has to make lawmakers fear or their positions of power if they don't act. While I agree action is needed, marching in the streets will probably not work. In fact, it would probably have the exact wrong effect because gun owners are very passionate about their rights. This tragedy is really complex and involves at least five different issues: 1. The war on ISIS -- we are bombing them, they are using the web and social media to encourage lone wolves to attack the US and other Western countries. 2. Mental Health -- the coward's wife said he had issues. Others have reported the same thing. How do you balance privacy vs. banning people from getting a gun(s). 3. LGBT Hate 4. Gun Rights -- in Florida (and many, many other states), you don't need a license to buy an assault weapon (automatic long rifle). 5. States' Rights -- most gun regulations are at the state level, not Federal. *** The NRA has run a very effective campaign to change people's attitudes about gun rights. They have done it through very effective communications management and propaganda. That said, the majority of Americans support stricter gun regulations -- but since 46 states have almost no gun control laws, I am not sure what stricter means. I split my time between Ohio and Mississippi -- and both states have almost no resurrections on gun ownership. Four countries -- the US, Mexico, Haiti, and Guatemala have constitutional guarantees to the right to own guns. Mexico and Haiti strictly limit legal gun ownership. Guatemala and the US are the only countries where broad, almost unfettered gun ownership is a constitutional guarantee. It is unlikely to change the US Constitution -- for anything. To modify the 2nd amendment -- not a chance. We have to find a new, uniquely American path. We have to change attitudes about having and using guns. There may be a model in the US for how to combat this -- alcohol. The attempt to ban alcohol failed miserably. But MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) succeeded in change how alcohol is consumed in the US. MADD was founded by one mom in 1980 and is responsible for changing attitudes about drinking and driving, and also for changing laws. Drunk driving in the US and Canada has been reduced by half since its founding.
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Post by mszue on Jun 13, 2016 1:59:20 GMT -5
But Q3...MADD succeeded BECAUSE they lobbied and marched and posted pictures and made speeches and did all the things you say would not work. They work but people have to care. If nobody bothers then nobody cares. Where is the "can do" attitude the US likes to claim? Put that attitude and good will to work for good instead of money.
If on the other hand, Americans are OK with the killing, then drop the platitudes and let things be. As long as guns are freely available, innocents will be killed. FACT! CLEAR, UNADULTERATED, PROVABLE FACT. The numbers are all there for those with the will to see.
I am ashamed at how much higher Canada's numbers are than some of those other countries, quite frankly. Very sad...
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Post by mehitabel on Jun 13, 2016 2:09:45 GMT -5
Can't wait to devour the vids as they come in of what seems like an epic performance by QAL. Chiming in for a moment on the Orlando shooting and very real despair around what will it take to change things. Seoulmate was correct. It will take physical action in the streets. Social media is fine and good to spread messages and share that despair but no major social change (and this would be major social change) happens without people standing up, marching out, refusing to move. It has to be impossible for lawmakers to ignore. It has to be an overwhelming show of outrage not a #prayforX hashtag. It has to make lawmakers fear for their positions of power if they don't act. That is exactly correct. The whole bullshit about "thoughts and prayers" makes the entire world collectively do an eye roll. Masses in the streets... for weeks and months (or longer) would eventually work. That, and actually voting for a change. That is what it will take - but how much death and destruction before we get there. What a hell of a day. Both extremes.
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Post by Q3 on Jun 13, 2016 12:14:45 GMT -5
But Q3...MADD succeeded BECAUSE they lobbied and marched and posted pictures and made speeches and did all the things you say would not work. They work but people have to care. If nobody bothers then nobody cares. Where is the "can do" attitude the US likes to claim? Put that attitude and good will to work for good instead of money. If on the other hand, Americans are OK with the killing, then drop the platitudes and let things be. As long as guns are freely available, innocents will be killed. FACT! CLEAR, UNADULTERATED, PROVABLE FACT. The numbers are all there for those with the will to see. I am ashamed at how much higher Canada's numbers are than some of those other countries, quite frankly. Very sad... I did not say that there was no way to change attitudes. I disagreed with this statement: "Chiming in for a moment on the Orlando shooting and very real despair around what will it take to change things. Seoulmate was correct. It will take physical action in the streets. Social media is fine and good to spread messages and share that despair but no major social change (and this would be major social change) happens without people standing up, marching out, refusing to move. It has to be impossible for lawmakers to ignore. It has to be an overwhelming show of outrage not a #prayforX hashtag. It has to make lawmakers fear for their positions of power if they don't act." Read more: adamtopia.com/post/761276/edit#ixzz4BTrqgaHxI agree, putting a hashtag on a tweet will do little but increase top-of-mind awareness. I am not opposed to marching or even peaceful sit-ins but it takes so much more. We have marches and protests all the time in the US. They are easy to ignore. This needs to be an effort that incorporates information and social media is the way 70% of people under 35 get their news and information. The NRA has done a masterful job of propaganda -- for example, reclassifying the AR-15 as NOT an assault weapon. It is an assault-style rifle. The NRA has convinced 48% of Americans that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is to have a good guy with a gun. Clearly, Orlando proves this is not the case. It took 11 heavily armed, trained police and sheriffs, hostage negotiators and a military vehicle to stop this one evil coward. If there are protesters in the streets or disruptive sit-in or similar actions vs. peaceful marchers, I guarantee that they will be demonized as un-American, as people who want to take away your rights, and so on, and they will provide the NRA with the ammo to forward their cause. >> Gandhi and Martin Luther King showed the way. Non-violent action. Finally, have no doubt that social media matters to politicians and can change things. They pay attention. I have been working on polling and research about the 2016 Election for months. I have done this for 32 years. And the #1 influence on voters and politicians in the US in 2016 is social media. It was barely on the radar in 2008, a minor factor in 2012, but for US Voters under 35 years old -- 78% use social media and Google as their primary source of news and information. One final note: If Orlando does not finally mean that people who are one the terrorist watch list should not be able to buy guns in the US, then it is time to vote out all these do-nothing politicians.
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