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Post by 3ku1 on Jun 16, 2016 2:26:47 GMT -5
For people in the know impartially would Adam be the greatest vocalist ever. Well he is at least up their With Freddie and Plant, Buckley, Tate e.t.c. I Remember he was named #1 at DDD forums Most Technically best singers of all time. I think he has the best technical live voice I have ever heard any genre. His technique and breath control is just phenominal. I mean you see him just showing off on songs like STL and WWTLF haha. I mean for years ppl have covered Queen songs on Singing Shows, and butchered them. And Queen have had a couple of lead singers since Freddie. But then Adams come along and hits all the notes, and does justice to Freddie in his sleep. Also his ability to cross genre is remarkable. I mean their is a reason why I rank Lambert above Hudson, Glover, Clarkson. Sanchez, Reinhart as the best vocalist Idol ever saw. Because he could do any genre, so diverse. I guess if we were in the 70's right now Adam would be the biggest music star on the planet. But I guess he is born in the wrong era.
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Post by shimoli710 on Jun 16, 2016 2:28:14 GMT -5
Actually it dawned on me - this show in Brusel was sort of part of their 2014/2015 QAL Tour (it was a compensation for the canceled show in Brusel due to Adam's illness). So we could consider it the very last show of that tour. And the microphone broke during the very last song of the concert - WATC. Do you remember - during the first song of their first concert in Chicago Adam's microphone broke as well. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qdV87neUC4Call it coincidence. OMG! Chicago was the opening song of the opening show of their first WW tour! He handled it liker the pro that he is! YES! He was perfect! He always is!
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Post by shimoli710 on Jun 16, 2016 3:31:26 GMT -5
You may not know about vocal techniques, but you have spotted one of the hallmarks. Breath control/support is one of the foundations of great technique that everything is built on. It is a singer's power supply. It is the gas to the engine. Run out of breath and the phrases sound choppy with interruptions in the middle of thoughts and even syllables, which hampers the singer's ability to present a moving interpretation. Apply too much breath to a note and it cracks or goes sharp. Too little, and the note is flat. Without proper breath support the singer cannot produce a consistent tone throughout a phrase and throughout his range. A well-trained singer also plans WHERE to breathe to add meaning and drama to the lyrics. Like a skilled writer knows where to punctuate a poem or piece of prose. He doesn't just randomly grab a breath when he runs out. A technically proficient singer also knows how to sneak a quick breath in unnoticed while at the same time filling his lungs completely. He knows when to make the breath audible for effect and how to keep it from being heard the rest of the time. Lots has been made of Adam being able to hold a note for 22 seconds. That, in itself, while remarkable, is not the point of good breathing technique. It is just evidence of it. Evidence that he has masterful control of the power supply to do amazing things with his voice, even while walking, running, dancing, goofing, adjusting his earpiece and signaling his sound guy. Adam's breath control is one of the things that marks him as a highly trained, classically trained singer. It's wonderful to witness. I appreciate your thorough explanation, cassie . It is astounding to me how masterfully Adam sneaks in a quick breath here and there while performing effortlessly and with so much power and joy. I'm utterly fascinated by him, after all these years. Same here
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Post by cassie on Jun 16, 2016 8:55:49 GMT -5
For people in the know impartially would Adam be the greatest vocalist ever. Well he is at least up their With Freddie and Plant, Buckley, Tate e.t.c. I Remember he was named #1 at DDD forums Most Technically best singers of all time. I think he has the best technical live voice I have ever heard any genre. His technique and breath control is just phenominal. I mean you see him just showing off on songs like STL and WWTLF haha. I mean for years ppl have covered Queen songs on Singing Shows, and butchered them. And Queen have had a couple of lead singers since Freddie. But then Adams come along and hits all the notes, and does justice to Freddie in his sleep. Also his ability to cross genre is remarkable. I mean their is a reason why I rank Lambert above Hudson, Glover, Clarkson. Sanchez, Reinhart as the best vocalist Idol ever saw. Because he could do any genre, so diverse. I guess if we were in the 70's right now Adam would be the biggest music star on the planet. But I guess he is born in the wrong era. Well, "greatest vocalist" is a term without definition. In order to compare or rank vocalists validly, one needs to have objective, observable, measurable criteria. But, there are so many different styles of singing, so many different genres, it would be nigh to impossible to have one standard to evaluate all singers. I think Adam has the "chops" in many different areas to rank right up there in a number of different genres. Which, as you pointed out, is remarkable in itself. I know of few singers who can cross genres as convincingly. Adam is basically a classically trained singer whose voice and technique could easily and naturally adapt to legitimate opera at the world class level (according to opera singer Angelina Kalahari, who has sung with the best). I can't name another opera singer who can as authentically sing heavy rock. It always sounds to me like an opera singer trying to be cool. Unsuccessfully. If one of the criterion for "best" is range, Adam has an impressive one. But, it's more than just the span of notes. It's the ability to sing them fully, consistently, accurately, and with a variety of textures and tones. Adam's range is not the widest of any singer I have heard, but when coupled with the versatility and control of range, he is hard to top. I spoke of breath control/support earlier. It is a skill that is not highly touted or sought after in pop singers. By and large, it is not necessary for the pop repertoire. It is essential for classical, theater and opera singers. I don't know how one would objectively measure the degree of breath control one has, but Adam's would definitely exceed the pop singers I have heard. He would fit right in with the professional classical singers, but I don't know if he would beat them all. Articulation is another skill that is not really sought after in pop and rock singers. I rarely understand more than half of the words they sing live. Doesn't matter in those genres. In theater and opera, the lyrics are an essential component of the story line and emotional content. Because of his background and technical strength, Adam is able to articulate clearly up and down his range, soft to loud, in different styles. What puts Adam in a very exclusive club of vocalists is his tone or timbre. Part of this is the anatomy/physiology he was gifted with at birth. His body is capable of rare resonance and clarity in a light, bright purity. Leggiero tenors are extremely rare in classical music, and Adam is one. But, there is a difference between having the raw equipment to be able to create a sound, and having the training, practice, determination, and discipline to develop that potential to the extent that Adam has. Adam is "one in a billion" because he has the rare natural potential combined with the best training and experience and the personal drive to sing anything and everything. As difficult as it is to quantify these vocal traits, there are others that are even more difficult to measure. We have talked about how Adam emotes, connects deeply with the songs lyrics and melodies. He is a great interpreter of music and words. He also has developed an impressive rapport with an audience, coming off as humble, authentic, likable, funny, and joyous. Part of that is his theater background. Part of that is his natural personality. Part of it is his social intelligence. Those are just some of the traits Adam has that, when combined, make him stand out as extraordinary. If one were able to hook him up to a machine and measure each trait individually, and the compare him to a thousand other "best" singers across genres, Adam might not come out as #1 on every test. But, cumulatively, he would be hard to beat. That's the guy we are smart enough to follow and love.
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Post by LindaG23 on Jun 16, 2016 9:21:28 GMT -5
I know it is rather a trivial example of breath control but it blew me away (pun maybe intended) the first time I saw it, Adam blowing out candles on his birthday cake. I had honestly never seen anyone blow out candles that way, the long light steady stream of air just wiped them out. Who knew!?! Cued up to the proper time: youtu.be/zn3wb7vCg9I?t=136
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Post by girldrummer on Jun 16, 2016 9:48:33 GMT -5
"Don't Stop Me Now"...OMG...so much energy!!! I know nothing about vocal technique but I keep wondering how Adam can not get completely out of breath when going full blast and non-stop and still not miss a note. When and how does he catch his breath? Simply amazing. I'm thrilled that Q&A are keeping DSMN on the setlist now - one of my favorites and I think its perfect for Adam, just like STL You may not know about vocal techniques, but you have spotted one of the hallmarks. Breath control/support is one of the foundations of great technique that everything is built on. It is a singer's power supply. It is the gas to the engine. Run out of breath and the phrases sound choppy with interruptions in the middle of thoughts and even syllables, which hampers the singer's ability to present a moving interpretation. Apply too much breath to a note and it cracks or goes sharp. Too little, and the note is flat. Without proper breath support the singer cannot produce a consistent tone throughout a phrase and throughout his range. A well-trained singer also plans WHERE to breathe to add meaning and drama to the lyrics. Like a skilled writer knows where to punctuate a poem or piece of prose. He doesn't just randomly grab a breath when he runs out. A technically proficient singer also knows how to sneak a quick breath in unnoticed while at the same time filling his lungs completely. He knows when to make the breath audible for effect and how to keep it from being heard the rest of the time. Lots has been made of Adam being able to hold a note for 22 seconds. That, in itself, while remarkable, is not the point of good breathing technique. It is just evidence of it. Evidence that he has masterful control of the power supply to do amazing things with his voice, even while walking, running, dancing, goofing, adjusting his earpiece and signaling his sound guy. Adam's breath control is one of the things that marks him as a highly trained, classically trained singer. It's wonderful to witness. Adam REALLY pulled out all the stops at this show. His voice was beyond belief. I LOVE his very playful STL and KQ. He always throws in the campy fun. Even the most hardcore Queenies have to smile and laugh and just have a good time. Adam really puts on a SHOW. The vocals are a given, so superior, so amazing. I feel story for people in the world who STILL haven't discovered him. WWTLF must give Brian May goosebumps every time he hears Adam sing it. I wonder sometimes how he can keep playing the guitar through it.
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Post by sizzling63 on Jun 16, 2016 12:20:58 GMT -5
For people in the know impartially would Adam be the greatest vocalist ever. Well he is at least up their With Freddie and Plant, Buckley, Tate e.t.c. I Remember he was named #1 at DDD forums Most Technically best singers of all time. I think he has the best technical live voice I have ever heard any genre. His technique and breath control is just phenominal. I mean you see him just showing off on songs like STL and WWTLF haha. I mean for years ppl have covered Queen songs on Singing Shows, and butchered them. And Queen have had a couple of lead singers since Freddie. But then Adams come along and hits all the notes, and does justice to Freddie in his sleep. Also his ability to cross genre is remarkable. I mean their is a reason why I rank Lambert above Hudson, Glover, Clarkson. Sanchez, Reinhart as the best vocalist Idol ever saw. Because he could do any genre, so diverse. I guess if we were in the 70's right now Adam would be the biggest music star on the planet. But I guess he is born in the wrong era. Well, "greatest vocalist" is a term without definition. In order to compare or rank vocalists validly, one needs to have objective, observable, measurable criteria. But, there are so many different styles of singing, so many different genres, it would be nigh to impossible to have one standard to evaluate all singers. I think Adam has the "chops" in many different areas to rank right up there in a number of different genres. Which, as you pointed out, is remarkable in itself. I know of few singers who can cross genres as convincingly. Adam is basically a classically trained singer whose voice and technique could easily and naturally adapt to legitimate opera at the world class level (according to opera singer Angelina Kalahari, who has sung with the best). I can't name another opera singer who can as authentically sing heavy rock. It always sounds to me like an opera singer trying to be cool. Unsuccessfully. If one of the criterion for "best" is range, Adam has an impressive one. But, it's more than just the span of notes. It's the ability to sing them fully, consistently, accurately, and with a variety of textures and tones. Adam's range is not the widest of any singer I have heard, but when coupled with the versatility and control of range, he is hard to top. I spoke of breath control/support earlier. It is a skill that is not highly touted or sought after in pop singers. By and large, it is not necessary for the pop repertoire. It is essential for classical, theater and opera singers. I don't know how one would objectively measure the degree of breath control one has, but Adam's would definitely exceed the pop singers I have heard. He would fit right in with the professional classical singers, but I don't know if he would beat them all. Articulation is another skill that is not really sought after in pop and rock singers. I rarely understand more than half of the words they sing live. Doesn't matter in those genres. In theater and opera, the lyrics are an essential component of the story line and emotional content. Because of his background and technical strength, Adam is able to articulate clearly up and down his range, soft to loud, in different styles. What puts Adam in a very exclusive club of vocalists is his tone or timbre. Part of this is the anatomy/physiology he was gifted with at birth. His body is capable of rare resonance and clarity in a light, bright purity. Leggiero tenors are extremely rare in classical music, and Adam is one. But, there is a difference between having the raw equipment to be able to create a sound, and having the training, practice, determination, and discipline to develop that potential to the extent that Adam has. Adam is "one in a billion" because he has the rare natural potential combined with the best training and experience and the personal drive to sing anything and everything. As difficult as it is to quantify these vocal traits, there are others that are even more difficult to measure. We have talked about how Adam emotes, connects deeply with the songs lyrics and melodies. He is a great interpreter of music and words. He also has developed an impressive rapport with an audience, coming off as humble, authentic, likable, funny, and joyous. Part of that is his theater background. Part of that is his natural personality. Part of it is his social intelligence. Those are just some of the traits Adam has that, when combined, make him stand out as extraordinary. If one were able to hook him up to a machine and measure each trait individually, and the compare him to a thousand other "best" singers across genres, Adam might not come out as #1 on every test. But, cumulatively, he would be hard to beat. That's the guy we are smart enough to follow and love. "....it's more than just the span of notes. It's the ability to sing them fully, consistently, accurately, and with a variety of textures and tones." - What Adam can do with his voice blows my mind!!! He's not just a singer, he's a magician. Then there is this whole other dimension that makes him such an exciting performer...his charisma, wit, looks, sex appeal, and the element of surprise
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Post by wilis on Jun 16, 2016 18:07:31 GMT -5
For people in the know impartially would Adam be the greatest vocalist ever. Well he is at least up their With Freddie and Plant, Buckley, Tate e.t.c. I Remember he was named #1 at DDD forums Most Technically best singers of all time. I think he has the best technical live voice I have ever heard any genre. His technique and breath control is just phenominal. I mean you see him just showing off on songs like STL and WWTLF haha. I mean for years ppl have covered Queen songs on Singing Shows, and butchered them. And Queen have had a couple of lead singers since Freddie. But then Adams come along and hits all the notes, and does justice to Freddie in his sleep. Also his ability to cross genre is remarkable. I mean their is a reason why I rank Lambert above Hudson, Glover, Clarkson. Sanchez, Reinhart as the best vocalist Idol ever saw. Because he could do any genre, so diverse. I guess if we were in the 70's right now Adam would be the biggest music star on the planet. But I guess he is born in the wrong era. Well, "greatest vocalist" is a term without definition. In order to compare or rank vocalists validly, one needs to have objective, observable, measurable criteria. But, there are so many different styles of singing, so many different genres, it would be nigh to impossible to have one standard to evaluate all singers. I think Adam has the "chops" in many different areas to rank right up there in a number of different genres. Which, as you pointed out, is remarkable in itself. I know of few singers who can cross genres as convincingly. Adam is basically a classically trained singer whose voice and technique could easily and naturally adapt to legitimate opera at the world class level (according to opera singer Angelina Kalahari, who has sung with the best). I can't name another opera singer who can as authentically sing heavy rock. It always sounds to me like an opera singer trying to be cool. Unsuccessfully. If one of the criterion for "best" is range, Adam has an impressive one. But, it's more than just the span of notes. It's the ability to sing them fully, consistently, accurately, and with a variety of textures and tones. Adam's range is not the widest of any singer I have heard, but when coupled with the versatility and control of range, he is hard to top. I spoke of breath control/support earlier. It is a skill that is not highly touted or sought after in pop singers. By and large, it is not necessary for the pop repertoire. It is essential for classical, theater and opera singers. I don't know how one would objectively measure the degree of breath control one has, but Adam's would definitely exceed the pop singers I have heard. He would fit right in with the professional classical singers, but I don't know if he would beat them all. Articulation is another skill that is not really sought after in pop and rock singers. I rarely understand more than half of the words they sing live. Doesn't matter in those genres. In theater and opera, the lyrics are an essential component of the story line and emotional content. Because of his background and technical strength, Adam is able to articulate clearly up and down his range, soft to loud, in different styles. What puts Adam in a very exclusive club of vocalists is his tone or timbre. Part of this is the anatomy/physiology he was gifted with at birth. His body is capable of rare resonance and clarity in a light, bright purity. Leggiero tenors are extremely rare in classical music, and Adam is one. But, there is a difference between having the raw equipment to be able to create a sound, and having the training, practice, determination, and discipline to develop that potential to the extent that Adam has. Adam is "one in a billion" because he has the rare natural potential combined with the best training and experience and the personal drive to sing anything and everything. As difficult as it is to quantify these vocal traits, there are others that are even more difficult to measure. We have talked about how Adam emotes, connects deeply with the songs lyrics and melodies. He is a great interpreter of music and words. He also has developed an impressive rapport with an audience, coming off as humble, authentic, likable, funny, and joyous. Part of that is his theater background. Part of that is his natural personality. Part of it is his social intelligence. Those are just some of the traits Adam has that, when combined, make him stand out as extraordinary. If one were able to hook him up to a machine and measure each trait individually, and the compare him to a thousand other "best" singers across genres, Adam might not come out as #1 on every test. But, cumulatively, he would be hard to beat. That's the guy we are smart enough to follow and love. Cassie, since i'm new here to posting (and a day late, as usual, so i'm hoping you'll find out that I wrote to you) i want to know if you'll be posting this and your last couple of marvelous lessons in the vocal master class thread. i find them fascinating and want to reread them a few times and figure that, for me, that would be a perfect place to find them. just wanna add that i've never read explanations like the ones you write. you blow me away with your knowledge and all the information that you can delightfully squeeze into each paragraph. i definitely look forward to reading what you write, and i wan to save em all. mmm-wah!
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Post by cassie on Jun 16, 2016 19:53:58 GMT -5
Well, "greatest vocalist" is a term without definition. In order to compare or rank vocalists validly, one needs to have objective, observable, measurable criteria. But, there are so many different styles of singing, so many different genres, it would be nigh to impossible to have one standard to evaluate all singers. I think Adam has the "chops" in many different areas to rank right up there in a number of different genres. Which, as you pointed out, is remarkable in itself. I know of few singers who can cross genres as convincingly. Adam is basically a classically trained singer whose voice and technique could easily and naturally adapt to legitimate opera at the world class level (according to opera singer Angelina Kalahari, who has sung with the best). I can't name another opera singer who can as authentically sing heavy rock. It always sounds to me like an opera singer trying to be cool. Unsuccessfully. If one of the criterion for "best" is range, Adam has an impressive one. But, it's more than just the span of notes. It's the ability to sing them fully, consistently, accurately, and with a variety of textures and tones. Adam's range is not the widest of any singer I have heard, but when coupled with the versatility and control of range, he is hard to top. I spoke of breath control/support earlier. It is a skill that is not highly touted or sought after in pop singers. By and large, it is not necessary for the pop repertoire. It is essential for classical, theater and opera singers. I don't know how one would objectively measure the degree of breath control one has, but Adam's would definitely exceed the pop singers I have heard. He would fit right in with the professional classical singers, but I don't know if he would beat them all. Articulation is another skill that is not really sought after in pop and rock singers. I rarely understand more than half of the words they sing live. Doesn't matter in those genres. In theater and opera, the lyrics are an essential component of the story line and emotional content. Because of his background and technical strength, Adam is able to articulate clearly up and down his range, soft to loud, in different styles. What puts Adam in a very exclusive club of vocalists is his tone or timbre. Part of this is the anatomy/physiology he was gifted with at birth. His body is capable of rare resonance and clarity in a light, bright purity. Leggiero tenors are extremely rare in classical music, and Adam is one. But, there is a difference between having the raw equipment to be able to create a sound, and having the training, practice, determination, and discipline to develop that potential to the extent that Adam has. Adam is "one in a billion" because he has the rare natural potential combined with the best training and experience and the personal drive to sing anything and everything. As difficult as it is to quantify these vocal traits, there are others that are even more difficult to measure. We have talked about how Adam emotes, connects deeply with the songs lyrics and melodies. He is a great interpreter of music and words. He also has developed an impressive rapport with an audience, coming off as humble, authentic, likable, funny, and joyous. Part of that is his theater background. Part of that is his natural personality. Part of it is his social intelligence. Those are just some of the traits Adam has that, when combined, make him stand out as extraordinary. If one were able to hook him up to a machine and measure each trait individually, and the compare him to a thousand other "best" singers across genres, Adam might not come out as #1 on every test. But, cumulatively, he would be hard to beat. That's the guy we are smart enough to follow and love. Cassie, since i'm new here to posting (and a day late, as usual, so i'm hoping you'll find out that I wrote to you) i want to know if you'll be posting this and your last couple of marvelous lessons in the vocal master class thread. i find them fascinating and want to reread them a few times and figure that, for me, that would be a perfect place to find them. just wanna add that i've never read explanations like the ones you write. you blow me away with your knowledge and all the information that you can delightfully squeeze into each paragraph. i definitely look forward to reading what you write, and i wan to save em all. mmm-wah! Great idea! I will work on bringing them over. Thanks!
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