1jun14
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Post by 1jun14 on Dec 3, 2016 2:12:49 GMT -5
Yes, of course there are many instances of sleaziness. Politics is one area for sure. But here, the sleaziness factor was pertaining to The Zodiac Show. That was the reference point. And that is what I was responding to. Sleaziness, as I have shown by multiple examples, does not always mean sexual. Courtney Love and Christina Aguilera can be said that their manner of dressing was sleazy. Madonna's gyrations could be seen as sleazy too. Lenny Bruce stood in a suit and told jokes. He was however, thought of as sleazy too. But sleazy, as a descriptor for The Zodiac Show imo was incorrect. A better word seemed warranted. I don't feel that the artists are trying to be looked upon as sleazy. It would probably blindside them if they heard it. When all they were trying to do was put on a show, sing, dance and entertain. I can't say if I prefer older Adam or younger Adam better. Both have had, and has its charm. All of Adam is good for me. I am enjoying his evolution immensely. hmmm, all the examples you gave I thought were describing how the Zodiac show was not sexual sleazy and comparing it to artists that you did deem sexually sleazy. I was saying that whoever used sleazy as a description may not have been putting the same meaning in it, or even if they did then sleazy is in the eye of the beholder no matter what the entertainers were aiming for. And what may not be sleazy in liberal coastal cities culture could certainly be sleazy by other cultures both in America and overseas. So my objection is simply that for some people sleazy might be exactly the word they are looking for despite it not being a word you would use. So I understand why you wouldn't use it but I felt a bit put out that you were saying that other people shouldn't. Would you object to Rocky Horror being described as sleazy? SaveI never said that anyone here couldn't use the word. I didn't agree with the word and thought another word would be better. I rather like HAPPY's word "outre". No one should be "put out" by anyone here either. It was just a comment by me in an ongoing discussion. If someone is "put out" in a forum, which by the nature of forums has differing discussions and opinions...then whats the point of being in one? Yes, I would object to Rocky Horror being described as sleazy. That is my opinion. You, or anyone else can call it whatever you like. To me it is a piece of art. And art is subjective. I still do not see sleaze at all in The Zodiac Show. No matter what coast or country you are from. I am willing to be educated, if someone can point out the sleaze to me.
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Post by skaschep on Dec 3, 2016 5:44:14 GMT -5
Adam liked this tweet: olly alexander @alexander_olly a policeman just stopped me in the street i was like oh shit im bout to get arrested but he thanked me for helping him with his sexuality !! Guess he's still lurking. Not ready to share anything at the moment though. It's been about 1,5 week since his last tweet. His followers aren't dropping much though. But he has IGed & snapped & visited The Voice. Yeah I know, but I was almost sure he would retweet some of that The Voice tweets, but he didn't. We here get everything he does on the internet provided to us by different channels, but some only follow him on twitter and not on those other mediums. On Facebook it's even longer that he hasn't posted anything. His last post there was on 1 November about EITN. He has told Isaiah to keep his fans engaged and keeping himself visible on social media. Yet Adam sometimes doesn't follow that same advice... And yes I know he deserves his off time. He could let anyone else post something for him during that time though. Let's hope he comes back with a nice bang! Still waiting for that 'Distant Horizon'.
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Post by girldrummer on Dec 3, 2016 15:56:14 GMT -5
hmmm, all the examples you gave I thought were describing how the Zodiac show was not sexual sleazy and comparing it to artists that you did deem sexually sleazy. I was saying that whoever used sleazy as a description may not have been putting the same meaning in it, or even if they did then sleazy is in the eye of the beholder no matter what the entertainers were aiming for. And what may not be sleazy in liberal coastal cities culture could certainly be sleazy by other cultures both in America and overseas. So my objection is simply that for some people sleazy might be exactly the word they are looking for despite it not being a word you would use. So I understand why you wouldn't use it but I felt a bit put out that you were saying that other people shouldn't. Would you object to Rocky Horror being described as sleazy? SaveI never said that anyone here couldn't use the word. I didn't agree with the word and thought another word would be better. I rather like HAPPY's word "outre". No one should be "put out" by anyone here either. It was just a comment by me in an ongoing discussion. If someone is "put out" in a forum, which by the nature of forums has differing discussions and opinions...then whats the point of being in one? Yes, I would object to Rocky Horror being described as sleazy. That is my opinion. You, or anyone else can call it whatever you like. To me it is a piece of art. And art is subjective. I still do not see sleaze at all in The Zodiac Show. No matter what coast or country you are from. I am willing to be educated, if someone can point out the sleaze to me. Adam could even make sleazy look classy.
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Post by girldrummer on Dec 3, 2016 15:59:11 GMT -5
Since it's such a slow day, I thought I'd mention that I sort of dreamt about Adam last night. I've only dreamt about him a couple of times, probably because I've been known to talk in my sleep so I subconsciously make sure there's little chance of that! Anyhow, there wasn't a lot of plot and it was a really weird dream that somehow involved A Guns n Roses show at a school auditorium, baseball, shooting arrows, and Adam riding a horse while wearing baggy short shorts (and his legs were really white!). I'm not sure what the hell was going on in my head! I've never been to a GnR show, for one thing! All I can think is that I watched a Game of Thrones episode (catching up) last night and then the new episode of Vikings, hence the horseback riding and arrows, and maybe Axl Rose is a red-haired Viking.... Not quite sure how Adam in shorts got in there! Or Baseball! Haha! Aren't dreams bizarre? They just go in crazy directions, sometimes having to do with our real lives in some way, but sometimes just crazy, out of the blue stuff. Adam riding a horse wearing baggy short shorts is an image I'll have in my head for a long time!
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