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Post by sizzling63 on Jan 29, 2017 21:41:34 GMT -5
The snapchat/IG videos are also on youtube now ... It warms my heart to see that his friends put some personal effort into this party - looks like homemade cupcakes, cute handwritten notes etc. <333
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Post by nastywoman on Jan 29, 2017 21:44:08 GMT -5
Delete this if you must, but anyone traveling from abroad to QAL shows might want to make sure the social media in your phone does not have anything that can be seen as against current US government. I'm looking into getting a second phone for when I leave the country as I'm not a citizen. You can say he can't do much alone but he already has. People who have homes here are denied entry back, people with valid visas are denied entry, visitors with dual citizenship are denied entry and that is the reality we're living in.
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Post by nastywoman on Jan 29, 2017 21:48:38 GMT -5
Q3 as of yesterday.... "If you want to be part of the digital card we are making, make sure to donate before 1.28.17 at 11:59PM and send me a personal message, so I can include your first name on the card and your donation in the total!! " ---not sure what the problems are ....but this is what Q3 posted yesterday. I pmed as it was the first time I really read her message to know about contacting her if I wished to have my name and donation included. IMO it should have been the other way round: let her know if you do want your name included. What if someone didn't see that statement. Maybe keep that in mind for next time. This was for a good cause and a great idea from MamaDeb, and I don't mean to diminish that. A first name and country seem pretty anonymous to me, especially since those first names weren't even matched with their states or countries, each was in a separate list. And no individual amounts were given. There is no way Adam will be able to figure out individual donors, I think Q3 just wanted him to know there were many. This is the last thing I say about this. The point is not how the information was delivered or what q3 did with it. The point is the information should not have been given to her in the first place. Period.
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Post by mszue on Jan 29, 2017 21:51:45 GMT -5
I am sorry for any confusion about what was sent to me by WMHRG. I am also sorry that you were included in our campaign in error. I cannot speak for WMHRG -- except to say they do amazing work and really should be congratulated for what they do. As far as I know, WMHRG did not make anything PUBLIC. So (and this is a sincere questions) are you concerned about something that was made PUBLIC that I am unaware of, or are your concerned that WMHRG shared your email with me? If the concern is that information was shared with me and that concerns you, I have deleted the file and have not made it public. **** The digital card posted in the opening post is all that was made public. Anyone who wanted to remain anonymous just had to PM (here), DM (Twitter) or EMail me to be left off. Several donors wanted to remain anonymous and even their first names were excluded. **** When we started the Birthday campaign, I arranged with WALK ME HOME RESCUE GROUP to track donations and keep me updated with a daily tally. They are staffed by amazing but overworked volunteers, and I was pleased they set up something for us. They did not have sophisticated donation systems and with only a couple weeks to Adam's birthday I could not build something. WMHRG sent me a donation listing so I could let people know the total, track the total donated and prepare something for Adam with the first names of everyone who donated. I also collected the information of other animal rescue donations from emails and messages send to me by fans. The tracking list from WMHRG had email addresses on it -- and yes I have seen them. But they have NEVER been made public, the information was not shared with anyone else, and nothing was sent to those email addresses by me. I don't even know which email address on that list is yours. In addition, I deleted the donation list last night because I did not need to retain it for any reason. **** That said -- I have volunteered to help WMHRG with fundraising. It is a wonderful cause and I plan to do whatever I can do in the coming year to help WMHRG raise more money. I Yes, my concern is that my information was sent to you. That made it public. WMHRG made the information public when they shared it with you. This is unethical. I don't care if you deleted it, you should never have been given the info in the first place. In these circumstances, since an opt in or opt out button was not available, we should have been informed our information was going to be shared with you or you should have had us contact you with our info if we wanted it on the birthday card. Again, sharing everyone's info with you made it public. This was unethical. I cannot believe you and WMHRG do not understand the basics of privacy and personal information. I fail to see the superior ethics in joining a public forum in order to PUBLICLY berate and castigate a non-profit animal rescue and the moderator of the forum about PRIVACY! I gather only your privacy is of concern but you are the one making the public fuss. If you did not want anyone to know of your donation, you should at the very least, take up your frustration privately. We on atop have no desire to know your business and only know of it because of your first and only 7 posts! The reasons for this whole endeavour were to honour Adam and to do some wee bit of good. You are doing your level best to taint this whole effort. I publicly apologize to you for your embarrassment. Now please desist...
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Post by bridgeymah on Jan 29, 2017 21:55:18 GMT -5
Delete this if you must, but anyone traveling from abroad to QAL shows might want to make sure the social media in your phone does not have anything that can be seen as against current US government. I'm looking into getting a second phone for when I leave the country as I'm not a citizen. You can say he can't do much alone but he already has. People who have homes here are denied entry back, people with valid visas are denied entry, visitors with dual citizenship are denied entry and that is the reality we're living in. Also delete (although Adam did open the door with his tweet)... Likewise be careful if you have visited any of the countries listed in the ban anytime in past 5 years. This is from an Australian immigration lawyer: Australians who have been to banned countries anytime since 2011 can no longer apply for Visa waiver using the automated online system... may be different depending on visa requirements.
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Post by bamafan on Jan 29, 2017 22:16:21 GMT -5
Adam getting political: ADAM LAMBERT @adamlambert PIERS MORGAN: More Americans killed by kids with guns than terrorists dailym.ai/2kgaLzQ via @mailonline Sheesh - of all the people why did Adam choose to RT the unspeakably awful Piers Morgan... #lesigh so many informed articles out there about this issue, he is not one of them (although I believe the stat when looked at in context is correct - see footnotes of attached tweet) I'm seeing folks tweeting Adam about "how could he tweet/agree with anything from Piers Morgan. They are ignoring the article and condemning the source. Yes, HeWhoCannot amed and Piers are buds and Adam and Piers are friendly and Adam agrees with Piers on this topic...and I think especially about the gun control headline because he's tweeted about it before. It's OK to agree with folks on certain things and not on others....IMO. Adam isn't very political/engaged/vocal. When something resonates with him or his beliefs he tweets or RTs about it...but we really haven't gotten many political posts from him in the past. Now Eber. on Twitter....that's another story....lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 22:19:27 GMT -5
Delete this if you must, but anyone traveling from abroad to QAL shows might want to make sure the social media in your phone does not have anything that can be seen as against current US government. I'm looking into getting a second phone for when I leave the country as I'm not a citizen. You can say he can't do much alone but he already has. People who have homes here are denied entry back, people with valid visas are denied entry, visitors with dual citizenship are denied entry and that is the reality we're living in. Also delete (although Adam did open the door with his tweet)... Likewise be careful if you have visited any of the countries listed in the ban anytime in past 5 years. This is from an Australian immigration lawyer: Australians who have been to banned countries anytime since 2011 can no longer apply for Visa waiver using the automated online system... may be different depending on visa requirements. It would seem prudent to be very proactively careful at this point. www.cnn.com/2017/01/29/politics/donald-HeWhoCannot amed-immigrant-policy-social-media-contacts/index.html
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Post by adamrocks on Jan 29, 2017 22:19:37 GMT -5
Q3 I just wanted to thank you for giving so much of your time and doing so much work to organize this wonderful gift for Adam's BD that will help in the rescue of so many abused, mistreated, abandoned, and defenseless animals and bring a much needed awareness to their plight. Q3.....you are THE BEST. THANK YOU!!
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Post by bamafan on Jan 29, 2017 22:26:00 GMT -5
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Post by liliane on Jan 29, 2017 22:37:14 GMT -5
Yes, my concern is that my information was sent to you. That made it public. WMHRG made the information public when they shared it with you. This is unethical. I don't care if you deleted it, you should never have been given the info in the first place. In these circumstances, since an opt in or opt out button was not available, we should have been informed our information was going to be shared with you or you should have had us contact you with our info if we wanted it on the birthday card. Again, sharing everyone's info with you made it public. This was unethical. I cannot believe you and WMHRG do not understand the basics of privacy and personal information. I fail to see the superior ethics in joining a public forum in order to PUBLICLY berate and castigate a non-profit animal rescue and the moderator of the forum about PRIVACY! I gather only your privacy is of concern but you are the one making the public fuss. If you did not want anyone to know of your donation, you should at the very least, take up your frustration privately. We on atop have no desire to know your business and only know of it because of your first and only 7 posts! The reasons for this whole endeavour were to honour Adam and to do some wee bit of good. You are doing your level best to taint this whole effort. I publicly apologize to you for your embarrassment. Now please desist... Ditto. Thank you very much for your hard work Q3 in organizing such a meaningful birthday present for Adam, I really appreciate it. I am sure that receiving the digital card put a smile on Adam's face.
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