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Post by lurleene on Mar 16, 2017 19:08:29 GMT -5
Considering some of the mainstream lyrics nowadays, I can't imagine how the lyrics to "Shady" would be a problem, but then again it's Adam Lambert singing those lyrics ... #DoubleStandard (same reason why "Fever" was never a single. Sucks.) IMO, the lyrics of Shady could be about anyone going to an under ground club to dance the night away and be weird and freaky in many other ways. Tell me. What about these lyrics is "Gay" or for that matter, even X rated? IMO, nothing! The only problem with Shady and Trespassing and Cuckoo not being released as singles was FURCA. Radio embraced Ghost town. i think they would have embraced Cuckoo and/or any other dance song from Adam as the first Trespassing single. Personally, i think they were waiting for his freak flag to fly and BTIKM was a disappointment to them. I know for a fact, that Adam fully expected Cuckoo to be the first single from that album. And I think we pretty much all know, that he wanted Trespassing as the 2nd single. FURCA is a big sore point with me. I though i was over it, but I guess from this rant, I am not! Here are the lyrics:Shady
Adam Lambert
Baby, I’m on the hunt
Baby, I got my target on you
Trouble, that’s what I want
And I’m gonna do
Just what I have to
Get your ass down to the front
Go on and roll it out, I dare you
Sorry I’m kinda drunk
But did you just say your game was brand new
No, I ain’t broken, but I need a fix
That satisfaction when I, I get my kicks
I’m up all night, I’m outta sight
Don’t turn on the light
'Cause I’m feeling so shady lately
Come on and take me underground
Deep under the street
Come on and take me, take me down
Where freaks like us can meet
Turn it up, turn it up, turn it up
Turn it way up, don’t stop the beat
Come on and turn me, turn me out
'Cause I’m feeling so shady lately
Gonna go and get me a shot
Gonna knock it back, forget all my blues
Yeah, that…
I agree with you about Shady. Adam is gay and a lot of times fans look for anything that might mean gay when it could actually be sung by anyone else with no problem. Like when he sang Beth. That was a KISS song but it somehow became gay when Adam sang it. Shady reminded me of my heavy club days in the South and none of my group (male or female) were gay as far as I know. We were wild tho and more so when a gal from NY came to campus and joined our group. She was crazy but fun, lol. Even with Fever we don't know if the pronoun keep it off the air, do we? When Adam releases music I look for a common meaning instead of looking for meanings about his sexuality. I think Smokey Robinson said it best on Idol. He said Motown and Barry Gordy wanted to make music that appealed to all and not only Black people. It did not mean they were denying their blackness or running away from who they were. They just wanted to reach a broad audience. I think Adam makes a lot of his music vague because he wants everyone to relate to his feelings and meaning, which a lot of times would be universal. If he throws in a tune that is community specific that is fine as well. But I even heard a stupid DJ on my station say that when he heard IIHY he could only think about Adam with a man. That was someone looking for a reason not to play the darn song which he barely played. Ugh.
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Post by sizzling63 on Mar 16, 2017 19:13:41 GMT -5
Considering some of the mainstream lyrics nowadays, I can't imagine how the lyrics to "Shady" would be a problem, but then again it's Adam Lambert singing those lyrics ... #DoubleStandard (same reason why "Fever" was never a single. Sucks.) IMO, the lyrics of Shady could be about anyone going to an under ground club to dance the night away and be weird and freaky in many other ways. Tell me. What about these lyrics is "Gay" or for that matter, even X rated? IMO, nothing! The only problem with Shady and Trespassing and Cuckoo not being released as singles was FURCA. Radio embraced Ghost town. i think they would have embraced Cuckoo and/or any other dance song from Adam as the first Trespassing single. Personally, i think they were waiting for his freak flag to fly and BTIKM was a disappointment to them. I know for a fact, that Adam fully expected Cuckoo to be the first single from that album. And I think we pretty much all know, that he wanted Trespassing as the 2nd single. FURCA is a big sore point with me. I though i was over it, but I guess from this rant, I am not! Here are the lyrics:Shady
Adam Lambert
Baby, I’m on the hunt
Baby, I got my target on you
Trouble, that’s what I want
And I’m gonna do
Just what I have to
Get your ass down to the front
Go on and roll it out, I dare you
Sorry I’m kinda drunk
But did you just say your game was brand new
No, I ain’t broken, but I need a fix
That satisfaction when I, I get my kicks
I’m up all night, I’m outta sight
Don’t turn on the light
'Cause I’m feeling so shady lately
Come on and take me underground
Deep under the street
Come on and take me, take me down
Where freaks like us can meet
Turn it up, turn it up, turn it up
Turn it way up, don’t stop the beat
Come on and turn me, turn me out
'Cause I’m feeling so shady lately
Gonna go and get me a shot
Gonna knock it back, forget all my blues
Yeah, that…
I shouldn't have made a comparison with "Fever" as "Shady" didn't even have a pronoun or any gay lyrics. However, FURCA must have deemed "weird and freaky" in an underground dance club too risky for someone like Adam. So instead we got lukewarm singles ugghh. I am not over it yet either as there are too many buried treasures from past albums. I just listened to Ke$ha's "Blow" - love that song btw. - but Adam would have never been allowed that type of a single.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:16:40 GMT -5
Honestly, RCA's handling of era 2 almost killed his solo career. And we know from interviews, since then, that it did affect Adam's spirit and confidence. A lesser artist might not have survived. Thank heaven for WBR and Max Martin and QAL. I truly feel QAL helped him to see his place is definitely in the music business! And it gave him swag and confidence! Plus, lots of $$$! Love Brian and Roger forever! Do you have any idea why in the hell (sorry) RCA wanted to treat Adam the way they did? They did hardly any promo for his album. I remember thinking that Adam practically did it all himself. FURCA is exactly how I feel. Adam actually promoted his ass off all over the country at radio stations for BTIKM. It was just the wrong single. Probably the only song on Trespassing album that did NOT reflect the album! My guesses on why BTIKM, is that 1) RCA had deals with Dr Luke and Claude Kelly as they were both under contract with RCA. 2) RCA was trying to release what they thought was a song similar to WWFM. 3) Remember, RCA was in turmoil also. Executives leaving left and right.
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Post by sizzling63 on Mar 16, 2017 19:17:40 GMT -5
Considering some of the mainstream lyrics nowadays, I can't imagine how the lyrics to "Shady" would be a problem, but then again it's Adam Lambert singing those lyrics ... #DoubleStandard (same reason why "Fever" was never a single. Sucks.) I heard so many times that Fever wasn't made a single because radio wouldn't play it because of the word "he" (there he goes, my baby etc.). But it was always a claim made by fans. I believe fans made that up, because they needed to find reasoning and logic behind not making Fever a single. I never heard any radio personality who said that. And the truth is, I find it a little hard to believe. I think it wasn't made a single because RCA had no deal with Gaga, but they did have a deal with Dr. Luke and Claude Kelly, and maybe with Max Martin. oh interesting...first time I get that point of view. Thanks!
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Post by nica575 on Mar 16, 2017 19:18:42 GMT -5
Ahhh sorry. Slow lol. I think RCA did a pretty good job in era 1. With Fye. But they definitely dropped the ball with TP. Ended up stifling Adam I think. Never understood the rollout plan. I do remember Adam did that poll for what single should be lead. Cuckoo won by a landslide. And should of lead. RCA choose I presume to release an average Claude Kelly demo. Then was it Ncoe. Then Tresoasding. Cuckoo then Trespassing it should of been. GT was hot on US pop radio 2015-2016. Went double platinum in OZ. Cuckoo could of been bigger so could of Trespassing imo. Then 3rd would of been Naked Love. Then if their was a 4th. Definitely Runnin. But Adam seems to be in good hands with WBR. Honestly, RCA's handling of era 2 almost killed his solo career. And we know from interviews, since then, that it did affect Adam's spirit and confidence. A lesser artist might not have survived. Thank heaven for WBR and Max Martin and QAL. I truly feel QAL helped him to see his place is definitely in the music business! And it gave him swag and confidence! Plus, lots of $$$! Love Brian and Roger forever! RCA's incompetence was staggering, FURCA is soooo justified. WBR is a totally different ball game but I do have a grudge there as well. The reason is the choice of ALN as the 2nd single. IMO it killed the TOH (the album) trajectory...AU's apathy towards the brilliant TOH the song was the result of ALN IMO... I hope in the future they will stop trying to release a WWFM "look alike"- BTIKM, NCOE, ALN - enough already! Can you imagine if we had Cockoo, Fever, Shady, TOH - all released as singles? I am praying Era 4 choices and roll out will be perfect. Adam is 35...not the perfect age for pop / EDM market IMO...
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Post by sizzling63 on Mar 16, 2017 19:21:36 GMT -5
I am surprised that they are still sending out tweets. Is that a typical thing? May be there is a remake in the works? I wouldn't mind actually. DH and I admitted to each other the other day that we do miss the show even though it wasn't always exciting, especially after Adam's run. But other singing competitions won't do it for us. I just tweeted them back and pimped Adam a bit Yes, I think someone said here that the show was bought by NBC? Really? I sure missed that info. But that's good news if true...at least for me. I realize that many here are done with Idol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:24:02 GMT -5
There are plenty of people in their 30s that are very successful on radio. I know we say he needs the right song, but it's true! A song with a killer hook that people relate to. It will happen. I have very good feelings about Era 4! Ghost Town was a great song to build on. It will happen!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:24:37 GMT -5
Yes, I think someone said here that the show was bought by NBC? Really? I sure missed that info. But that's good news if true...at least for me. I realize that many here are done with Idol. No. Check my reply post. They are only in talks.
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Post by sizzling63 on Mar 16, 2017 19:26:34 GMT -5
Honestly, RCA's handling of era 2 almost killed his solo career. And we know from interviews, since then, that it did affect Adam's spirit and confidence. A lesser artist might not have survived. Thank heaven for WBR and Max Martin and QAL. I truly feel QAL helped him to see his place is definitely in the music business! And it gave him swag and confidence! Plus, lots of $$$! Love Brian and Roger forever! RCA's incompetence was staggering, FURCA is soooo justified. WBR is a totally different ball game but I do have a grudge there as well. The reason is the choice of ALN as the 2nd single. IMO it killed the TOH (the album) trajectory...AU's apathy towards the brilliant TOH the song was the result of ALN IMO... I hope in the future they will stop trying to release a WWFM "look alike"- BTIKM, NCOE, ALN - enough already! Can you imagine if we had Cockoo, Fever, Shady, TOH - all released as singles?I am praying Era 4 choices and roll out will be perfect. Adam is 35...not the perfect age for pop / EDM market IMO... I can imagine ... and it still hurts.
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Post by momtomany on Mar 16, 2017 19:41:17 GMT -5
Can't get the 'quote' feature to work . . . my comment on Adam behind the curtain. He isn't impatient! He is composed and excited; and so ready to explode - when the moment is right!
And I agree with Nica - - - the songs mentioned are amazing, and in my mind would have been top 40 hits, had they been released and achieved the radio play they deserved. I don't understand radio play. Maybe I never will. It actually physically hurts to see those titles . . . gone.
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