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Post by nica575 on Jan 21, 2018 17:31:20 GMT -5
I am going to stick my neck out on this one, IMO: Adam has not been asked to do SB NA and will not be asked probably ever because he is OPENLY gay. period. wrong crowd. cowards in the advertisement business. cowards in the sports network media.hope to be proven wrong one day. Clay Aiken and Billy Gillman have done it a few times. They are both out gays? Super Bowl? I don't see their names on the list en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_anthem_performers_at_the_Super_Bowl
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Post by girldrummer on Jan 21, 2018 17:38:49 GMT -5
I am always fascinated at the different versions and levels of success that so many singers have. P2 and Kris Allen, for example, are successful Idol alums. Like Adam, they don't fill arenas on their own. But they are always doing shows and "touring." They put out independent albums that their fans love and that do well. Adam is somewhere in the middle of this level and the arena-fillers. Adam also is lucky he has an international following that most AI alums do not have. It's hard to describe just what Adam's place in in the hierarchy. We'll never know where he would be if had not gotten the Queen gig. Would he have had more time to focus on his solo work? Would be, out of necessity, financial and otherwise, pushed harder and faster on his solo career? He was offered the gig of a lifetime and is taking full advantage of it, naturally. But when his solo career is the only one he has, I hope he can "tour" as regularly and produce music as often as some of the other AI alums who maybe not be filling arenas but are doing just fine. I don't know of anyone who considers KA one of the successful Idol alums. When they list them it is always Carrie, Kelly, Adam, Jhud and Daughtry. Once in a while they include Kat, P2, Pickler and Scotty but not that often. And P2 is not like Kris as he is still with a major label, Interscope. I think Adam's place in the hierarchy would be there even without Queen. He appeared on the Forbes list of highest earning Idols every year before he joined Queen making 6mil on the GNT world tour and 5mil on the Trespassing Tour. He has been of the list 5 times (before they stopped doing them) and Queen money was in the last one at 10mil. P2 was on it 3 times. Kris was on it his winning year only with a little over 1mil. He tours a lot as an indie artist but they are small clubs that are not even filled. His album nor singles chart/sell and he is under the radar. P2 solo tours are a bit smaller than Adam's solo tours but he is always a co-headline or opener and he does not tour internationally much nor chart internationally. So even before Queen Adam was better known and received more press and was listed as one of the Idol success stories. Queen just took him to another level, imo. lurleene, You answered my post perfectly for several reasons. You said a few things that I either wasn't quite sure of or was hesitant to say. First, I guess by "successful" I meant "actively working." I assume that some AI alums aren't actively performing at all and have gone on to other things. But some of them are kind of in the level where they write and sell independently, perform on a small scale and simply have a job doing what they love. Thanks for saying what I thought was true about P2. He really doesn't true solo tours, and I heard that he is usually the opener or co-headliner. I think he is a step up from Kris in that regard. P2 has that one huge hit that keeps on giving, "Home." It is a very good song and IMO will become a kind of "standard" that will be heard for years. I suspected that Adam's solo tours attract a larger audience. I by no means want anyone to think that I am demeaning P2 or Kris in any way. AI has given them a good career, and they both have loyal fans. I was just curious about how Adam fits into the scope of things, status-wise. I think he's one of the most internationally known Idols. He is accepted into celebrity circles a bit. He gets praise from pretty high-level music peeps. I just keep wondering about the post-QAL era and how it will play out for him. Sheer talent isn't enough. It's about continued exposure, media promotion, etc. We all know that. That's why I keep hoping he can break through into other areas of entertainment. Judas sure could help. Thanks, lurleene, for knowing what I was getting at.
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Post by lurleene on Jan 21, 2018 17:40:22 GMT -5
Sorry! I thought you meant they were not asked to sing NA at a sporting event because they are gay. But you were talking only about the SB. I think the SB is a hard get. Adam would have to have more success in the US to be considered, imo. Hope he gets there one day.
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Post by bullsfan on Jan 21, 2018 18:26:52 GMT -5
Adam not getting the SB has nothing to do with him being gay. The SB gig is huge. Adam is nowhere near big enough. It's that simple.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 18:29:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 18:30:24 GMT -5
I am pretty sure that the only Idols that have had any international success have been Adam, Kelly, and Daughtry. Possibly, Carrie in OZ. But I don't think her genre has caught on around the world like it is in the US. Even with Kelly and Daughtry, I still think Adam is known in more countries, like the Asian ones and S. America.
Many, maybe even most, Idols are working in some way with their music. They are not all radio stars, but some have done Broadway, some are self releasing their music, or are on small labels. Pretty much any artists can tour. They just have to choose the right sized venues for their fanbase. I think Adam's management and label have done a great job of that so far.
I do wonder why Daughtry has gone 5 years w/o a new release though. Very odd.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 18:33:49 GMT -5
Adam not getting the SB has nothing to do with him being gay. The SB gig is huge. Adam is nowhere near big enough. It's that simple. I think the original poster was thinking any National Anthem gig. Then somehow Super Bowl snuck in there. There's only one Super Bowl a year. And many BIG stars to choose from. Pretty sure this is P!NK's first time & she's been around (and big) for 18 years!! I do think QAL though would be the perfect 1/2 time show.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 18:41:23 GMT -5
I think it is perfectly okay to wonder... even though we may know the answer(s). I think it is entirely possible that Adam HAS been asked. And declined. He is not into sports at all. He sang the national anthem for a sporting event way back when he was in high school in San Diego. "Been there, done that. Not interested" perhaps? I don’t know which it is, never offered or turned down, but turning down the NA at a major game would be such a cut your nose of to spite your face attitude, I cannot image that Adam is that shallow. Why in the world would he turn down such a highly coveted opportunity to be seen and heard by millions?
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Post by skaschep on Jan 21, 2018 18:44:11 GMT -5
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Post by thelambertluvva on Jan 21, 2018 18:46:22 GMT -5
Adam not getting the SB has nothing to do with him being gay. The SB gig is huge. Adam is nowhere near big enough. It's that simple. I've always wondered why Adam, the best singer in the world, hasn't been asked to do the national anthem on any televised professional sports event. I don't believe it's because of his lack of interest in sports. He's always been open to a lot of things that give him exposure, like singing at that country awards even though he doesn't like country. Even Jessica Sanchez has sung it at many professional sports events and even at the White House for Obama. I always thought Adam was more well known than her. Wonder if Obama even knows who Adam is. But despite her singing at all these events, it didn't seem to help her career much.
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