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Post by melliemom on Jun 2, 2018 13:47:40 GMT -5
Adam Lambert Instagram @ig_adamlambert 52m52 minutes ago 📸@adamlambert: "London: June 2nd!" www.instagram.com/p/Bjh_M7EBPCn/ 0 replies 3 retweets 6 likes Reply Retweet 3 Like 6 Direct message More
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Post by sizzling63 on Jun 2, 2018 13:50:35 GMT -5
I still wonder why some in the media keep saying that Adam came out after Idol. They know his story. He has said many times he came out at 18 and he was out when he went to Idol. But they still re-write the narrative. I think he has been trying to let people know that he was not hiding until he made a splash on Idol. He was honest. Sure he did the big Rollingstone article but he had been living openly as a gay man for almost 10 years by then. Some still use that as a knock against him that no one knew until after Idol. If someone didn't know, it was not because Adam was hiding his sexuality. I mean was he to come on stage and sing with a gay sign around his neck? There is no doubt that his sexuality cost him some votes. So if they didn't know, why were some bitching about a gay possibly winning Idol? Adam is looking really good with this promotion in London. My take on it: People had no idea, who Adam was before idol. They just got to know him. And Idol rightfully showed him singing and performing. His sexuality wasn’t of any interest for the show. And although regular viewers, who really followed Adam, might have had an idea, I don’t think that means, that he was out to the public. I mean, there are some celebrities, who are suspected to be gay, because of their outfits ect. But as long as they don’t state it officially, they are not out. There is thankfully a line, that allows people to stay in the closet, if they wish to do so. I became a fan on Idol, but I wasn't thinking about Adam's sexuality for the longest time. I wasn't on any social media or fan site back then and only watched Idol, but eventually I googled Adam and quickly figured things out. It was only after Idol that I started joining fan forums. My take is that while on Idol Adam was not out to the public, but anybody wondering could easily connect the dots. I think it is up to each individual how much to reveal about their sexuality.
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Post by melliemom on Jun 2, 2018 13:56:05 GMT -5
Adam Lambert Instagram @ig_adamlambert 52m52 minutes ago 📸@adamlambert: "London: June 2nd!" http://instagr.am/p/Bjh_M7EBPCn 0 replies 3 retweets 6 likes Reply Retweet 3 Like 6 Direct message More IMHO, It's worth going on Instagram to see photos of Adam.. He sure could use more folks.. check out more on Instagram. tons of Adam
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Post by pi on Jun 2, 2018 14:16:42 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Jun 2, 2018 14:17:26 GMT -5
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Post by girldrummer on Jun 2, 2018 15:02:12 GMT -5
But that is not true of what happened here in the US. While he was competing they were showing on the news pictures of him kissing his ex-boyfriend. There was an entire panel discussing it on Fox. The ladies were in support of his talent and saying it would make no difference. But Bill O'Rielly was insisting that middle America might have an issue with him winning. It was obvious that he was trying to influence the vote against him. Adam said Idol was supportive of him when the pictures hit and it looked as if it would cost him. Adam himself said he thought he was a gone, but Simon and the other judges were so supportive of him after he sang Blank or White after the picture storm. You could see Adam tear up from the support. He was on the cover of a magazine speculating about his sexuality and could he win. He was under tremendous pressure with Perez and others snipping at him at all times. They were hell bent on not allowing him to compete like all the other contestants. There were ministers trying to get people to vote for the Christian and again the gay guy. The press in the US is completely aware of that because they were a huge part of it. Of course after he lost, they were upset and wondering if his sexuality cost him the title. So it seems strange for them to now pretend they did not know. He could not give any interviews before the show was over but I call BS on the notion that unless you state it on tv or publicly that you are not out. He sure took a lot of hits and insults for someone who was not out. IMHO,Adam was hounded before and after AI.. Adam said in his interview ,his sexuality was all the media talked about for a year.I think after all this time ,Adam is still questioned about his sexuality unlike other gay stars. If he brings it up fair game, but when others keep bringing it up ,I find it annoying and sometimes very unfair.After all It's Adam's voice and his music that deserve the attention. he's entitled to a private life and entitled to be a voice for the LGBTQ community when he wants to be. "Adam is still questioned about his sexuality unlike other gay stars." That is true. I can't think of another gay artist who is so boldly asked his sexuality as Adam is. I guess it's because that when he first asked about, he willingly and openly answered. He was honest, and he didn't say, "Don't ask me about it anymore." He just took it as it came, as he still does. And he is a natural talker. He is naturally chatty and answers question at length and with thought. Once that "sex topic" topic momentum got started with Adam it just kept on going. It's been a good think, in a way. He's become quite a spokesman for LGBTQ issues. This may pay off for him as he gets older and remains as a leader in social issues. It's a good legacy to have if it happens.
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Post by girldrummer on Jun 2, 2018 15:03:27 GMT -5
A bit of a stretch but I hope you all don't mind...combining summer and Adam's promo of QAL and supporting young people in their quest for gender identity, may I do a small promotion here? Thanks to Salt Lake County Library: www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiFtgWOXyx0 Love it! Thanks for posting it! I LOVE this! This field has been pretty much my whole career.
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Post by Craazyforadam on Jun 2, 2018 15:07:27 GMT -5
This whole being out topic can at times get a bit weird. Imagine a private person who happens to live in city 'A' and is out, both at home and in public. Now this person decides to move to city 'B'. Is he all of a sudden closeted, just because the people of city 'B' don't know? Rather silly to suggest that, right? Also, in this new city, is the gay person all of a sudden obliged to bring up the 'gay'-topic into every new encounter, just to not revoke his 'out'-status? See how ridiculous that gets? let me take t a step further: I guess, many straight people (including the media at times) forget that being out requires some kind of 'upkeep' from the person who is out. It apparently needs to be brought up again and again, and the gay person is supposed to make that judgement call, whether that status is important for the new person to know, and whether this is the moment to bring it up. Gay people seem to also be required to keep some form of mental ledger on who already knows and who does not. Obviously, I am exaggerating here a bit right now to make a point, but I think the underlying facts are very much true. The straight world, including the media, and sometimes even the gay world (OUT magazine anybody?) is kind of putting the burden on the individual gay person to carry that responsibility of defining and re-defining their 'gayness' according to the other person's own internal list of criteria. That is certainly not fair to anyone. With Adam, obviously, we the public, were all collectively citizens of this city 'B'. In addition, Adam could not talk to us during idol, so it remained a rumor. Jet that rumor was big enough that it covered 3 column long articles in the NYTimes, and was covered in everything from the WSJ to ET-Online. But Adam himself was never in those discussions, due to his status on the show. So, how on earth does that make him closeted? Just because we had not yet received positive affirmation of the news, does not mean he was not open. I think that straight people have a tendency to underestimate how much strain this so often means for any gay person, to have this topic constantly creep into all kinds of conversations and situations, that in principle have nothing to do with orientation. A person gets a new job, they need to think about how to deal with this, a person joins some kind of club or social group, again the topic needs to be bridged, the person meets some friends of his friends, again the topic is on the table. In certain ways, a celebrity has the benefit that once this topic has been chewed over by the press, then they don't need to reiterate it in every private encounter, but for private citizens, it will always remain a bothersome part of their life. Sometimes, I wish people would put themselves into other peoples shoes a bit more, and that includes the media. If they would try to see the world from the other person's perspective and not just their own, they might interview differently. Our knowledge about Adam's orientation does not define his degree of 'outness', that is just not how it should be defined, and I hate to see when the media do it anyways (as you said: re-write history).
In general, I wish that people would start thinking that whole process through a bit more and I think they would judge things a bit differently. It also explains why so many gay people decide to stay closeted, and only come out to a very narrow circle of trusted friends. It is truly such a bother to handle, that many decide to stay closeted and deal with the consequences that this brings along, i.e. a semi-secretive life.
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Post by bamafan on Jun 2, 2018 15:13:05 GMT -5
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Post by bamafan on Jun 2, 2018 15:14:37 GMT -5
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