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Post by bamafan on Feb 12, 2019 23:07:49 GMT -5
Now I see it, Bamafan. Thank you! Yay. I had to DL it and run it thru Photobucket. I'm so tech challenged. Sorry Colleen......I eventually got it posted :D
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Post by bamafan on Feb 12, 2019 23:14:49 GMT -5
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Post by phronni7 on Feb 12, 2019 23:56:41 GMT -5
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised because the source is Wikipedia, but I still am. I was reading a bit of the history of The Show Must Go On”, and there is one mention of Adam performing it with Queen in 2011, making it sound like a one-off. Yet there are a couple of paragraphs with their own sub-headings about “Celine Dion’s Version”. Will Adam receive the same for “his” version of “Believe.” Just saying.... But back to this info for TSMGO: it is one of Adam’s best loved and most vocally praised songs, and he gets a sentence? I think even Paul Rogers might have gotten two. And perhaps there might be a mention that Adam has been their frontman since 2012, or 2011, I have read it written both ways...a long time. I don’t know who updates Wikipedia, but sheesh... Like it or not, that is the source that many people make their first and only stop. Sorry to sound so irritated, but i haven’t had a wink of sleep for 22 hours (my sleep is worse than Adam’s), and that combined with this scant mention just got on my last nerve! I do hope everyone has a nice day. Celine Dion released a single of TSMGO with Lindsay Sterling on electric violin. That is why it gets its own section with several paragraphs. And it is significantly different from the usual Queen and QAL versions. Adam's 2011 performance is under the heading "Live Recordings" as the MTV EMA show was live recorded and broadcast on TV. The Rock Big Ben Live performance of TSMGO should, and could, be added to this list!!! I can't think of any other time Adam performed this song on a live TV broadcast. To include other Adam performances, there would need to be a heading called "Live Performances", or wait for another televised performance of the song or for a DVD that includes the song. In general, unless the wiki page has limited edit access, anyone can edit a Wiki page. I suspect Adam's page is limited to Sosh, but I suspect that the TSMGO page can be edited by anyone. But if you do edit the TSMGO Wikipedia page, you MUST reference reliable sources!!! Which should be easy since the Rock Big Ben Live show has its own Wikipedia page and the set list is included. Since the 2014-2015 tour also has its own Wikipedia page with set listings for each leg of the tour, one could also mention that the Rock Big Ben show was a prelude to the UK/EU tour leg, and while TSMGO was not performed during the UK/EU tour leg, it was performed during the NA tour leg. So, would anyone like to volunteer for editing Wikipedia pages? You could run the edits by the group here for comments and suggestions. See Wikipedia editing details at: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:About
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Post by phronni7 on Feb 13, 2019 0:14:18 GMT -5
You certainly provide a thorough explanation of how Wikipedia and its updates work. I usually don’t go to Wikipedia because of its woeful inadequaties on many levels, but, as I said, I was running on 22 hours of no sleep with still no sleepiness (tired but wired), so I was just puttering about. What a task to update everything! Guess if my eye surgery had worked, I could try my hand at this entry, but I have to preserve where I use my sight for selective reading and television. Thank you for setting me straight.
And girldrummer, it is a nice reminder that other people just want more Adam exposure. I guess, in the current tally, he is doing okay. I’ll just remind myself of that and enjoy watching “A Place Called Home”. I would love to binge this one!
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Post by lelemaple on Feb 13, 2019 0:54:36 GMT -5
Now I see it, Bamafan. Thank you! Yay. I had to DL it and run it thru Photobucket. I'm so tech challenged. Sorry Colleen......I eventually got it posted :D No worries! Thank you so much! Fun show. Tyler is an incredible drummer.
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Post by phronni7 on Feb 13, 2019 2:00:20 GMT -5
most wiki sites can be modified by anyone...if you dont like what you see...change it. That is why it is rarely academically allowed as a source for anything. It certainly is no reason to go on our interminable poor Adam rants. if there isa blosk on fans editing...then we need to pressure whoever has those priveleges.....which should show in the string As a forward, I just wanted to let people know that due to a failed eye surgery, I have vision problems. So if you see any problems with syntax, diction, punctuation, etc..., that is why, so please forgive! Mssue, It is easy to misread tone on texts, posts, etc... But from my perspective, your post is rather confrontational and condescending. 1. I am fully aware that Wikipedia is not allowed as an academic source. In fact, if you check at least two of my previous posts, you will see that I never claimed it to be. The point I attempted to make was just regarding thoroughness. In point of fact, for 25 years as an English professor, I was one of those academics who did not allow students to use this source, at least as a cited source, via departmental decree. This is why I was so unfamiliar with changing its content: too many students, too many topics. We all had our sources to “patrol”. Mine were in two literature areas, not in comp. So we trusted each other in our “reliable” source assessment. Even looking at Wikipedia last night was to find out one simple point which was so well-known that if I saw it mentioned, my forgetful mind would be reassured. Of course, I still did a quick check of a second source. This scan led to the findings that I commented on. 2. I had no intention to start one of our “interminable poor Adam rants”. I made a statement based on a thought that I had. Inciting anything was not my intent, but if people did want to start a conversation regarding their perception of Adam’s exposure or lack thereof, that would be their right. And “poor” Adam? I think he is blessed in so many aspects of his life and wish him a continuation and growth in whatever makes him happy. However, I don’t expect people to agree with each other on all points, and courteous discourse often results in fruitful growth. There are so many extremely intelligent and gracious members of this forum that I feel incredibly fortunate to learn so much almost daily, and I thank you. Just looking at the credentials of so many musical experts is amazing. Thanks so much! I do now understand more about what drives people into lurk mode. Perhaps it might be best for me to go there for at least a while.
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Post by sizzling63 on Feb 13, 2019 3:30:56 GMT -5
Discussions without eye contact and real interaction can be tricky. I just looked at one of my previous posts and corrected it, as it came across as too harsh and not as it was intended. I guess I was too eager to quickly give my two cents on SS and then got carried away. What am I trying to say? Members going into lurk mode as they worry about being judged for their comments or feel that their opinions aren't validated is sad. We need you here, phronni7 .
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Post by lurleene on Feb 13, 2019 4:02:09 GMT -5
most wiki sites can be modified by anyone...if you dont like what you see...change it. That is why it is rarely academically allowed as a source for anything. It certainly is no reason to go on our interminable poor Adam rants. if there isa blosk on fans editing...then we need to pressure whoever has those priveleges.....which should show in the string As a forward, I just wanted to let people know that due to a failed eye surgery, I have vision problems. So if you see any problems with syntax, diction, punctuation, etc..., that is why, so please forgive! Mssue, It is easy to misread tone on texts, posts, etc... But from my perspective, your post is rather confrontational and condescending. 1. I am fully aware that Wikipedia is not allowed as an academic source. In fact, if you check at least two of my previous posts, you will see that I never claimed it to be. The point I attempted to make was just regarding thoroughness. In point of fact, for 25 years as an English professor, I was one of those academics who did not allow students to use this source, at least as a cited source, via departmental decree. This is why I was so unfamiliar with changing its content: too many students, too many topics. We all had our sources to “patrol”. Mine were in two literature areas, not in comp. So we trusted each other in our “reliable” source assessment. Even looking at Wikipedia last night was to find out one simple point which was so well-known that if I saw it mentioned, my forgetful mind would be reassured. Of course, I still did a quick check of a second source. This scan led to the findings that I commented on. 2. I had no intention to start one of our “interminable poor Adam rants”. I made a statement based on a thought that I had. Inciting anything was not my intent, but if people did want to start a conversation regarding their perception of Adam’s exposure or lack thereof, that would be their right. And “poor” Adam? I think he is blessed in so many aspects of his life and wish him a continuation and growth in whatever makes him happy. However, I don’t expect people to agree with each other on all points, and courteous discourse often results in fruitful growth. There are so many extremely intelligent and gracious members of this forum that I feel incredibly fortunate to learn so much almost daily, and I thank you. Just looking at the credentials of so many musical experts is amazing. Thanks so much! I do now understand more about what drives people into lurk mode. Perhaps it might be best for me to go there for at least a while. It didn't seem like a poor Adam rant to me and I got what you were saying. And yes the Paul Rogers part was even more forceful than the mention of Adam. And since Adam is touring with Queen it would have been nice if there had been more of an acknowledgement and that seemed to be all you were saying. And most people are not going to go in and start changing Wiki pages so that suggestion was not all that helpful, imo.
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