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Post by rihannsu on May 26, 2019 10:20:17 GMT -5
Seeing the discussions around here I'd like to share my opinion on the new reality. One can't compare the way things were last time Adam released his music as both the industry and Adam's situations have changed. He was under Warner label (which is one of the giant 3 labels globally) and now he is an indie artists signed under an independent label. One can't expect them to do what Warner did promo wise. Philymack are doing great for Adam and by no means can one compare Adam (as an indie) to B-listers like Jonas Brothers. I would say they are B-listers seeing as someone like Taylor or Sheeran, Drake would be what is considered A-list top charters nowdays. We should try and look at the great things they do for Adam, the constant non-stop media promo with all the articles which are positive and the amazing reviews, getting nods from such as Taylor (don't think it is an accident or that its not a promo), the tv appearances (which many indie would envy), the visibility he gets due to the Queen collaboration as Queen are in the top 10 rock bands globally currently. "New Eyes" has a retro 70's sound and vibe and a while back, some used to complain that Adam should not focus so much on the radio top 40 sound and pop, so when he does what he wanted to do and brings more authenticity, some are complaining now that it doesn't seem to have the same success as the radio oriented singles like Ghost Town. What I feel, there is a bit of a 70's revival with upcoming anniversary of Woodstock summer of 69, return of camp and glam-rock vibes, BoRap movie popularity, the upcoming Rocketman (Elton John) movie, artists like Panic at Disco and others are bringing a bit of a retro sound with live instruments back into the mainstream, which is dominated by pop, rap, hip-hop, kpop and variants of such as well as fusion and collabs between genres. The Original High was radio orientated from the start and got the promo Warner as a giant label could do. We can't expect things to be the same way they were back then. Youtube and others do have anti bots and count the views differently as to prevent spamming and such. What we see is the hardcore fanbase that Adam always had which many would envy by the way. Music is consumed differently too. No one can predict what will connect with an audience and what won't either. Don't forget that the promo only started and up until now I personally haven't noticed anything wrong as to what his new label and management are doing seeing as they are not operating on the same budgets as Warner Bro was and they realistically can get Adam that many tv appearances, get him only so much promo as they can and they are being very smart about it in my opinion. Just think how many indie get to have primetime tv appearances like Adam had over the last months. BBC1 top show, Kennedy centre, Elvis special, Oscars (globally), ABC American Idol both as mentor and performance, Good Morning America Summer concerts upcoming. I really haven't seen anything negative career-wise for Adam to have any remarks. Sorry if this seems like both a bit of a rant and a pep talk, but it is how I feel. l like seeing Adam happy in that he gets that creative freedom he wanted without the pressure from a giant label to meet their sales numbers, continues to do both his solo and side-gig with Queen and is happy in his private life. Keep streaming and viewing as much as we can and like to do and it is not a pressure to do that I love what you have to say. It just makes sense and gives me a bit of hope for Adamtopia.Quite honestly I have never been more unhappy than now on this FANsite. which to me is divided ,on the fans who wish to support Adam's music and Adam no matter what !! and those who prefer to only want to support him if they happen to like the new direction he is going in.. My idea is that a fan club supports their artist as he or she experiments ,goes through different phases of growth ,etc. They enjoy the artists ride and backs them while their art changes. IMHO,The reason Adam left two music labels was because they wouldn't let him grow.I do believe that he felt he had many ,many fans who love him and support him.Would be there for him through thick and thin..I think there is a real lack of leadership here at Adamtopia. Someone to define what a fan club is.. Personally I'm sick of the infighting. To me if Adam is no longer your cup of tea you shouldn't be in his fan club. He really needs people who will go out and push his music as much as they can and back him in his choices. I'm not saying you have to admire everything,but again this is a FAN CLUB not therapy.Have a nice day
This is not actually a FAN CLUB per se, it is a fan board where all aspects of Adam and relating to Adam are discussed. The actual FAN CLUBS are adamofficial and adamlambertfans. Those are Adam's fan clubs. This site had never claimed to be a FAN CLUB in the way that you are describing. Q3 has made that point several times. Everyone should be absolutely free to support Adam in any way that is comfortable to them. No one should be shamed for not devoting loads of time and effort to pushing Adam's music. There is a fine line between reminding people of ways that can support and nagging/pushing/shaming people.
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Post by svca on May 26, 2019 10:32:28 GMT -5
Also, IMO, divisiveness is caused by "superfans" continually telling other fans how to show their support, etc. I've been following Adam for 10 years now, have bought all his music, but I'll be damned if I'm leaving the fandom because I don't happen to care for his new song that much or can't afford to go to every concert. I still bought it, and plan on buying the rest of the album also.
We should be able to express our opinions, gushing or not, and not get told at every turn that we're distressing someone and that we're not good fans for not loving everything he says or does or sings. The people on this board come from many different backgrounds, have many different personalities, it's unrealistic to think that we're all going to agree on everything. And who gets to decide the things we're supposed to like?
One last point...not liking a song, or a haircut, or an interview doesn't necessarily equate to not supporting him.
Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not going anywhere any time soon.
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Post by lurleene on May 26, 2019 10:45:37 GMT -5
I love the look for Adam in the jeans and hat. But I don't think his weight has changed. He looked very trim on the Oscars. Imo, on Idol, he had on so many layers in the performance with Dimitrius that he looked a bit larger (the pictures were not very flattering for various reasons). And velvet is probably going to look to add on a few pounds too. Add on all the hair on and around the face and there was just a lot going on. I have never been a big fan of the heavy facial hair but the added on volume of hair just took over. So if he was not going to trim the facial hair (which he obviously loves) I'm glad he cut the hair. His hair was not super short on the Oscars but it was up and off his face and very flattering with the beard. He is a very handsome man so anything that helps him show that off is fine with me, lol.
I will support any music that Adam puts out (even more dance music if he goes there again) but I still don't get some fans rush for the next song. They are not done promoting this one yet. Yes I would love to see a beautiful ballad pushed for Adam and I was disappointed that FS could not be that song. But for some reason, many think a ballad by Adam could not find support. Or maybe some think his ballads are not good enough (I strongly disagree). I guess they are only acceptable for the Adele, Sam, Bruno, Ed and the Legends of the world. Maybe that is because they are bigger names and anything they put out will be accepted. But I don't think they have the bigger talent and emotional delivery by any stretch. But no matter what I would like to see, I will support whatever Adam has out there. He is doing it the way he wants this time so the choices are obviously his. I very much love the new direction of his music. I still don't care for the video but play it anyway.
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Post by cassie on May 26, 2019 10:51:23 GMT -5
The post by melliemom was an eyeopener to me. I have never considered this form to be a FAN CLUB. Rather, I have seen it as a community of diverse people who all love and appreciate Adam Lambert, and want to learn the latest news and information. It is, for me, my main source of Adam news. If some members consider it a fan club whose purpose is to rally support for Adam and promote him in every way, all the time, they might be frustrated beyond belief by other members who see the forum as a place to discuss Adam, his art, his performances, and his public persona, and share their opinions. I had never looked at it from mellie's perspective, because, until I read melliemom 's post, I didn't realize what some folks expected this forum to be and do. I hope we can find a way to co-exist on this forum. I don't want to lose this valuable source of the latest news about Adam. I also do not want to feel that my opinions and responses to that news should not be expressed here unless they are 100% in favor of the news. I will do my best to respect the guidelines of this forum, remembering everyone here is crazy about the man, yet reacts differently. Can we all just play nice?
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Post by melliemom on May 26, 2019 10:55:30 GMT -5
Well I've been here for ten years plus the club site before Adamtopia and I guess I may be in the wrong place all along.. I don't love everything Adam does and I certainly
don't feel like everybody should agree .. The negativity and infighting is causing this place to be stressful.I don't put one group over another on who is causing the stress...
but there is stress.
It used to be a happy place,at least most of the time..SVCA you're not disappointing me for staying.. why would you even think that?I'm thrilled that you are here...
I have said and will repeat, if you no longer care for the direction adam is heading in and you're no longer a fan why would you stay.. If you're telling me this isn't a fan
site,than anybody even those folks who can't stand Adam are welcome...I always thought this was a place for people who love Adam...If not, then maybe It's time for me to leave. I think we need more guidelines.. It's getting very confusing.
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Post by Jablea on May 26, 2019 10:57:33 GMT -5
Also, IMO, divisiveness is caused by "superfans" continually telling other fans how to show their support, etc. I've been following Adam for 10 years now, have bought all his music, but I'll be damned if I'm leaving the fandom because I don't happen to care for his new song that much or can't afford to go to every concert. I still bought it, and plan on buying the rest of the album also. We should be able to express our opinions, gushing or not, and not get told at every turn that we're distressing someone and that we're not good fans for not loving everything he says or does or sings. The people on this board come from many different backgrounds, have many different personalities, it's unrealistic to think that we're all going to agree on everything. And who gets to decide the things we're supposed to like? One last point...not liking a song, or a haircut, or an interview doesn't necessarily equate to not supporting him. Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not going anywhere any time soon. haha, I haven't read back to see what this is about but lol. Yep not leaving this kitchen hrmpf fandom anytime soon.
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Post by nica575 on May 26, 2019 10:58:20 GMT -5
Usually I run my NE Spotify playlist on IPad, which runs through the whole playlist, interrupted only by ads...
a few mins ago I switched to my android phone and discovered two things:
1) there is a video component consisting of Adam only excerpts from the MV! Loved watching that! 2) it doesn’t play the playlist ... after only one NE instance it went on to play Sam Smith of all artists (I can’t stand his depressing music) and I couldn’t get back to Adam at all...
So, despite the awesome video I had to go back to Spotify on iPad where there is only audio... I can’t figure out why Spotify behaves differently... not a big deal, I the end I’ll get the spins in one way or another... I’ll continue YT plays on the phone...
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Post by nica575 on May 26, 2019 11:12:09 GMT -5
Oh, just read a few later posts...
funny... I am not picking up any negativity on this board... all I see here is real love and support for Adam and his multitude of projects. seriously.
Different perceptions for sure...
Test: I was soooo very disappointed this morning upon finding out he cut his hair...
is that statement a negative one?
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Post by skaschep on May 26, 2019 11:17:34 GMT -5
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Post by melliemom on May 26, 2019 11:20:52 GMT -5
The post by melliemom was an eyeopener to me. I have never considered this form to be a FAN CLUB. Rather, I have seen it as a community of diverse people who all love and appreciate Adam Lambert, and want to learn the latest news and information. It is, for me, my main source of Adam news. If some members consider it a fan club whose purpose is to rally support for Adam and promote him in every way, all the time, they might be frustrated beyond belief by other members who see the forum as a place to discuss Adam, his art, his performances, and his public persona, and share their opinions. I had never looked at it from mellie's perspective, because, until I read melliemom 's post, I didn't realize what some folks expected this forum to be and do. I hope we can find a way to co-exist on this forum. I don't want to lose this valuable source of the latest news about Adam. I also do not want to feel that my opinions and responses to that news should not be expressed here unless they are 100% in favor of the news. I will do my best to respect the guidelines of this forum, remembering everyone here is crazy about the man, yet reacts differently. Can we all just play nice? I think we need to clarify who/what Adamtopia is once again.. If It's not just for fans but for those folks just interested in what Adam is doing.. than I can see why there is a disconnect.I know so many who have left this group because of the negativity..IMHO, Maybe we need more leadership input,if Adamtopia is to last many more years to come.Just saying
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