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Post by lurleene on Jul 9, 2019 17:42:21 GMT -5
RE the latest discussion about Adam and his level of success. It looks like the bottom line is that we just stream and view and stream and view and on and on. He cannot do this by himself. The way it's all set up now is that fans have to do this for their artists. We may not like it. It may seem manipulative and unfair and sometimes burdensome. And it is. But it's currently the strongest mode of support. He puts out the music and performs it. Apparently the world at large will not hear it unless we stream it. And view it. But streaming is the thing. The onus is on the fans. So stream. I think with the discussion, some were pointing out it will take more than Adam fans to get him high streaming numbers. Fans alone are doing as much as they can, if the want to. But it is made harder without any radio support (which he is not looking for), to broaden awareness of the songs or a major (I think they would have some pull) to get him on many more playlists. I think many are streaming and playing the videos even if the music is not 100% to their liking. A reminder to stream is a good idea but the streaming is not being ignored even when we voice an opinion about the songs. Those who don't stream much probably would not stream much even if they loved the songs. FS is the one that takes me to another world but I stream and play all three 24/7. Looking forward to some Glam rock. On another note, does anyone remember what it is that Empire does so well that it made Universal want them to work with some of their artists?
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Post by bamafan on Jul 9, 2019 17:48:41 GMT -5
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Post by melliemom on Jul 9, 2019 18:48:22 GMT -5
RE the latest discussion about Adam and his level of success. It looks like the bottom line is that we just stream and view and stream and view and on and on. He cannot do this by himself. The way it's all set up now is that fans have to do this for their artists. We may not like it. It may seem manipulative and unfair and sometimes burdensome. And it is. But it's currently the strongest mode of support. He puts out the music and performs it. Apparently the world at large will not hear it unless we stream it. And view it. But streaming is the thing. The onus is on the fans. So stream. I think with the discussion, some were pointing out it will take more than Adam fans to get him high streaming numbers. Fans alone are doing as much as they can, if the want to. But it is made harder without any radio support (which he is not looking for), to broaden awareness of the songs or a major (I think they would have some pull) to get him on many more playlists. I think many are streaming and playing the videos even if the music is not 100% to their liking. A reminder to stream is a good idea but the streaming is not being ignored even when we voice an opinion about the songs. Those who don't stream much probably would not stream much even if they loved the songs. FS is the one that takes me to another world but I stream and play all three 24/7. Looking forward to some Glam rock. On another note, does anyone remember what it is that Empire does so well that it made Universal want them to work with some of their artists? It's a cycle the more we stream. the more the music is heard ,the more new fans, who will stream .. ya know supply and demand kind of thing..Easy to stream.. I have been streaming Coming in Hot on Apple for 3 hours right now.. without interruption , this while watching TV ,cooking dinner,talking to my family.....easy peasy
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Post by lurleene on Jul 9, 2019 19:37:39 GMT -5
I think with the discussion, some were pointing out it will take more than Adam fans to get him high streaming numbers. Fans alone are doing as much as they can, if the want to. But it is made harder without any radio support (which he is not looking for), to broaden awareness of the songs or a major (I think they would have some pull) to get him on many more playlists. I think many are streaming and playing the videos even if the music is not 100% to their liking. A reminder to stream is a good idea but the streaming is not being ignored even when we voice an opinion about the songs. Those who don't stream much probably would not stream much even if they loved the songs. FS is the one that takes me to another world but I stream and play all three 24/7. Looking forward to some Glam rock. On another note, does anyone remember what it is that Empire does so well that it made Universal want them to work with some of their artists? It's a cycle the more we stream. the more the music is heard ,the more new fans, who will stream .. ya know supply and demand kind of thing..Easy to stream.. I have been streaming Coming in Hot on Apple for 3 hours right now.. without interruption , this while watching TV ,cooking dinner,talking to my family.....easy peasy ALL Fans are streaming as mush as they can or want, imo. But his reach has to be expanded beyond just his fans to make a big difference. More exposure to others needs to take place. But from what we have been told, we need not worry about or concern ourselves with it because Adam is successful. He has a boyfriend. He is doing it the way he wants. So for me, I stream and buy and wait for QAL.
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Post by mszue on Jul 9, 2019 19:38:45 GMT -5
That makes me so bloody angry I can't tell you. We took the seats we did because there was an aisle right in front of us...that would mean it would be a bit easier to see and I am all of 5'2"....there were seats closer for the same price but they were in the middle of the pack and that is so difficult....I had a nasty feeling they would do that but what can you do"! I bought those tickets in good faith on the pre-sale and now somebody can swoop in the last day and stand right in front of me. There should be a f#%$in law! TOTALLY UNETHICAL...
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Post by melliemom on Jul 9, 2019 20:02:38 GMT -5
It's a cycle the more we stream. the more the music is heard ,the more new fans, who will stream .. ya know supply and demand kind of thing..Easy to stream.. I have been streaming Coming in Hot on Apple for 3 hours right now.. without interruption , this while watching TV ,cooking dinner,talking to my family.....easy peasy ALL Fans are streaming as mush as they can or want, imo. But his reach has to be expanded beyond just his fans to make a big difference. More exposure to others need to take place. But from what we have been told, we need not worry about or concern ourselves with it because Adam is successful. He has a boyfriend. He is doing it the way he wants. So for me, I stream and buy and wait for QAL. I agree...
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Post by girldrummer on Jul 9, 2019 20:30:49 GMT -5
That makes me so bloody angry I can't tell you. We took the seats we did because there was an aisle right in front of us...that would mean it would be a bit easier to see and I am all of 5'2"....there were seats closer for the same price but they were in the middle of the pack and that is so difficult....I had a nasty feeling they would do that but what can you do"! I bought those tickets in good faith on the pre-sale and now somebody can swoop in the last day and stand right in front of me. There should be a f#%$in law! TOTALLY UNETHICAL... I don't blame you for being mad. I'm sure the same thing will happen in other venues, too. The venues figure out how well the tickets are selling and then they make up their own rules and sell more tickets. To hell with people like you bought your tickets in good faith. All I can say is, I'm sure you will enjoy yourself regardless. Hopefully your view will not be blocked.
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Post by cheriemelissa on Jul 9, 2019 20:46:07 GMT -5
The last time in Chicago I had the same thing happen to me. I bought front row seats on the floor right at an isle in front of the thrust!!!!!. So there were 6 rows, the isle, then my row.Then they put a another row right in front of that one and a completely ignorant woman stood up right in front of me for the whole show filming on her phone, swaying back and forth waving her free arm. People behind me kept yelling at her to move or sit down but she ignored them. I was so pissed. We were really close to the stage so I persevered but it would have been nice to be able to sit down for some of the show and still see. This time I'm front row in the permanent seats a little further up but still close. No way to add a row up there.
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Post by bamafan on Jul 9, 2019 21:00:49 GMT -5
That makes me so bloody angry I can't tell you. We took the seats we did because there was an aisle right in front of us...that would mean it would be a bit easier to see and I am all of 5'2"....there were seats closer for the same price but they were in the middle of the pack and that is so difficult....I had a nasty feeling they would do that but what can you do"! I bought those tickets in good faith on the pre-sale and now somebody can swoop in the last day and stand right in front of me. There should be a f#%$in law! TOTALLY UNETHICAL... I don't blame you for being mad. I'm sure the same thing will happen in other venues, too. The venues figure out how well the tickets are selling and then they make up their own rules and sell more tickets. To hell with people like you bought your tickets in good faith. All I can say is, I'm sure you will enjoy yourself regardless. Hopefully your view will not be blocked. mszue.....Are you talking about the seats on Row 19? Can't believe there are so many down on the first and second row, etc. Of course they are really expensive and Platinums. I'm a little concerned that they might add an additional row in Nashville in front of us on the front row at the thrust. Nashville added extra seats last minute last concert so I'm leary.
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Post by mszue on Jul 9, 2019 21:11:46 GMT -5
I don't blame you for being mad. I'm sure the same thing will happen in other venues, too. The venues figure out how well the tickets are selling and then they make up their own rules and sell more tickets. To hell with people like you bought your tickets in good faith. All I can say is, I'm sure you will enjoy yourself regardless. Hopefully your view will not be blocked. mszue.....Are you talking about the seats on Row 19? Can't believe there are so many down on the first and second row, etc. Of course they are really expensive and Platinums. I'm a little concerned that they might add an additional row in Nashville in front of us on the front row at the thrust. Nashville added extra seats last minute last concert so I'm leary. I have my fingers crossed that I flew off the handle before necessary.....sure hope so...when I went back a 3rd time and clicked in a different way, the old original set up came up so I may have to eat a little crow. Happy to do that....I had a fit [as y'all saw] as we are quite a way back...front row of a small 4 row section right in front of the mix box. It is a way back but with an aisle on the side and in front. When I just looked it seemed both aisle's had been eliminated leaving our seats at the back of a solid crush of people....eeeek. That can't actually be legal or safe...but no dif from a GA show so.... Thanks for the concern Bama...
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