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Post by rihannsu on Aug 18, 2019 14:46:59 GMT -5
I was under the impression that Adam was working on that already. It looks to me fans are just not flexibel and unimaginative.
I see so many requests for physical CD's in a time where those really don't matter that much anymore. In the Netherlands over 70% of revenue comes from streaming. In the US this is 75%. In the rest of the world this is coming more and more important as well. The music industry isn't the same now as it was 10 years ago. 10 years ago it was very different from 20 years ago already. It's constantly evolving. Adam is doing things differently this time and he seems very happy with it. But if people want to stick to the old ways then they are of course free to go. I am at least going with the flow and I have faith that Adam and his team have a plan. I do also hope that that plan is not only for the US and the UK, but also for the rest of the world as Adam has many fans outside these two countries. I felt a bit neglected here in the Netherlands with the release of the last two songs, but I have seen an article about Velvet already and they also talked about it on one of the biggest radio stations here so I have the idea that Superpower will be supported worldwide and also send to radio this time. (And nica575 ) I think I was responding to a different point. I didn’t view the Daz interchange as an upset over a physical CD at all. i saw it more as a great long-time fan (and probably the other, whom I don’t know) being disappointed and exasperated to the point of ‘unstanning’ after ten years. I think that’s sad....and unnecessary? And all too frequent. Not everyone is au fait with the way the industry works - perhaps Adam could take some time to explain timings, decisions, formats to those who would be reassured by a little insight. Like Daz and his friend possibly. After all these years of waiting for solo music and so little sharing of the process, they are clearly frustrated and bemused. Beyond that they are also perhaps underwhelmed by the pre releases. But much more generally, I think Adam could connect more engagingly with his fans. He is entering Era4 with a contracting fan base and he still posts face apps and new shoes and other peoples music. You only have to look at the huge numbers of people Brian is reaching with his interesting, respectful, thoughtful posts...(while not compromising his private life) to see the commercial value of worthwhile connection. iMHO I wouldn't worry to much about Daz's comment. He may just not be in to Adam's current sound. It's not Adam's job to educate people about how the industry works.
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Post by nica575 on Aug 18, 2019 15:44:12 GMT -5
I was under the impression that Adam was working on that already. It looks to me fans are just not flexibel and unimaginative.
I see so many requests for physical CD's in a time where those really don't matter that much anymore. In the Netherlands over 70% of revenue comes from streaming. In the US this is 75%. In the rest of the world this is coming more and more important as well. The music industry isn't the same now as it was 10 years ago. 10 years ago it was very different from 20 years ago already. It's constantly evolving. Adam is doing things differently this time and he seems very happy with it. But if people want to stick to the old ways then they are of course free to go. I am at least going with the flow and I have faith that Adam and his team have a plan. I do also hope that that plan is not only for the US and the UK, but also for the rest of the world as Adam has many fans outside these two countries. I felt a bit neglected here in the Netherlands with the release of the last two songs, but I have seen an article about Velvet already and they also talked about it on one of the biggest radio stations here so I have the idea that Superpower will be supported worldwide and also send to radio this time. (And nica575 ) I think I was responding to a different point. I didn’t view the Daz interchange as an upset over a physical CD at all. i saw it more as a great long-time fan (and probably the other, whom I don’t know) being disappointed and exasperated to the point of ‘unstanning’ after ten years. I think that’s sad....and unnecessary? And all too frequent. Not everyone is au fait with the way the industry works - perhaps Adam could take some time to explain timings, decisions, formats to those who would be reassured by a little insight. Like Daz and his friend possibly. After all these years of waiting for solo music and so little sharing of the process, they are clearly frustrated and bemused. Beyond that they are also perhaps underwhelmed by the pre releases.
But much more generally, I think Adam could connect more engagingly with his fans. He is entering Era4 with a contracting fan base and he still posts face apps and new shoes and other peoples music.
You only have to look at the huge numbers of people Brian is reaching with his interesting, respectful, thoughtful posts...(while not compromising his private life) to see the commercial value of worthwhile connection. iMHO Well said. It would be very nice if Adam decided to enhance his social media habits but tbh I don’t think he’ll change anything ...
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Post by nightowl on Aug 18, 2019 16:06:12 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry to much about Daz's comment. He may just not be in to Adam's current sound. It's not Adam's job to educate people about how the industry works. True. Some fans might simply not like the way, he’s going to release the album. I‘ve heard, that some think, he has become too commercial and lost the connection to his fans. I don’t believ3 that at all, but these voices do exist. Here is another otherwise hardcore fan, who’s simply not into the style of NE and CIH. She doesn’t want to buy Side A (I think she’s talking about the physical CD though and she might download the songs). But there seem to be more fans, who feel a disconnection at the moment. twitter.com/vivi_lovesmusic/status/1162059460669558784?s=21
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Post by LindaG23 on Aug 18, 2019 16:24:29 GMT -5
There are not a whole lot of advantages to being old, but one of them is that it is easier for other people to construe your thoughts as wise rather than pretentious. Brian is a very thoughtful person but would his posts have seemed that way when he was 37?
I would enjoy it if Adam engaged in a more personal manner, but I don't really know what I would want from him. At 37, I was still in the 'I want things' mode and that is what we see on his social media, him looking at things he might want or like or listen to. It's a lot but there is just so much out there, he's like a bee touching every stamen in the sunflower field.
Besides if Adam engaged more, what if I did not like what he thought? Would I or any potential fan be less likely to follow him? It can be an ugly place out there on the internet. What ideology is so important to Adam (like Brian's animal advocacy) that he would be willing to take on the haters? He speaks a lot about gay advocacy with a great deal of thoughtful sincerity. I like that. I can really see Adam, when he is Brian's age, being more philosophical about life. He just has to live it first.
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Post by skaschep on Aug 18, 2019 16:28:38 GMT -5
I was under the impression that Adam was working on that already. It looks to me fans are just not flexibel and unimaginative.
I see so many requests for physical CD's in a time where those really don't matter that much anymore. In the Netherlands over 70% of revenue comes from streaming. In the US this is 75%. In the rest of the world this is coming more and more important as well. The music industry isn't the same now as it was 10 years ago. 10 years ago it was very different from 20 years ago already. It's constantly evolving. Adam is doing things differently this time and he seems very happy with it. But if people want to stick to the old ways then they are of course free to go. I am at least going with the flow and I have faith that Adam and his team have a plan. I do also hope that that plan is not only for the US and the UK, but also for the rest of the world as Adam has many fans outside these two countries. I felt a bit neglected here in the Netherlands with the release of the last two songs, but I have seen an article about Velvet already and they also talked about it on one of the biggest radio stations here so I have the idea that Superpower will be supported worldwide and also send to radio this time. (And nica575 ) I think I was responding to a different point. I didn’t view the Daz interchange as an upset over a physical CD at all. i saw it more as a great long-time fan (and probably the other, whom I don’t know) being disappointed and exasperated to the point of ‘unstanning’ after ten years. I think that’s sad....and unnecessary? And all too frequent. Not everyone is au fait with the way the industry works - perhaps Adam could take some time to explain timings, decisions, formats to those who would be reassured by a little insight. Like Daz and his friend possibly. After all these years of waiting for solo music and so little sharing of the process, they are clearly frustrated and bemused. Beyond that they are also perhaps underwhelmed by the pre releases. But much more generally, I think Adam could connect more engagingly with his fans. He is entering Era4 with a contracting fan base and he still posts face apps and new shoes and other peoples music. You only have to look at the huge numbers of people Brian is reaching with his interesting, respectful, thoughtful posts...(while not compromising his private life) to see the commercial value of worthwhile connection. iMHO I know he wasn't talking about the physical CD. I don't know where the unstan came from. It's not like I follow him or know him. I just happen to stumble on the tweet of the first poster when searching for Adam and responded to the first poster with some additional info on which no response came. I see a lot of people not happy with how things are going and one of the things I'm seeing is the high postage fee and the fact that we need to go through Empire to buy the EP. People want to buy it through their own usual places apparently. Hence my comment about not being flexible. I also see people complaining about almost everything like they always do. At a time in which we probably should be excited as Adam is finally releasing some new music again and we get 6 more new songs by the end of next month. The lack of excitement is mostly what's bothering me. But yeah his fan base is shrinking every day it seems. I begin to believe that Adam can't do anything right at this point. But yes it would certainly help if he explained a bit more or let us know a bit of the behind the scene stuff. The IG live before the concert was absolutely amazing! My friend and I watched it when we were in line to board our plane back to the Netherlands on a very bad reception data connection and it was just great. I do wish he would do these little things a bit more often as well. Maybe Javi's influence will help a bit with that. He is a bit disconnected to his fans and that's such a shame. The IG live after the concert in Nashville was great as well of course. Even though it wasn't very long. I woke up just after it was over, but was able to watch it back and just felt a lot of love watching that. Even more than during the QAL shows I visited in the US (being a bit further away makes it apparently harder for me to really connect).
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Post by nightowl on Aug 18, 2019 16:36:16 GMT -5
As for the comparison between Adam and Brian: I don’t think, Brian has so many followers and likes, because of the content. Brian posted all these things for years and had much less followers than Adam. He also posted it on his homepage and only his hardcore fans cared. His number in followers literally exploded with the movie. That alone is the main reason for his number of followers. Even Roger had hundredth of thousands of followers with only 2 posts online.
I agree, that Adam’s interaction on social media isn’t his problem.. (If there even is one.) thing is, that at the moment the direction of his musical work is completely unclear. Singing rock with Queen, having done mostly pop and EDM and now? 70s style? Many fans simply don’t know what to make of that. You can see, that both New Eyes and Comin in Hot didn’t really connect. Hopefully Side A of Velvet will do much better.
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Post by sizzling63 on Aug 18, 2019 16:37:51 GMT -5
I agree that fans do need to adjust to things running a bit differently now, because both the music industry and Adam himself have been changing. I think releasing two "sides" of the album at different times is clever - fans have more to look forward to and the artist himself can adjust based on how music is received. If FS, NE, and CIH were used as appetizers of sorts it's all fine with me, and if they end up on side B even better. I am still very invested in Adam's solo career even though I don't always jump up and down at everything. As with every fandom, some come and others go, but in the end Adam needs to do what he feels comfortable with. He is a lucky man. I do agree with SophieB 's opinion on Adam's fan engagement though. Right now he is super busy killing it with Queen of course, and I don't expect anything from him other than staying healthy (and happy) to keep the well oiled machine going. Even more so was it a pleasant surprise when he treated us to his recent backstage live IG video. In general though, I think that Adam could make his fan engagement way more interesting and he could learn a thing or two from Brian. For instance, during Adam's IG chat a few days ago, he could have just talked about stuff and not spend more than half the time sitting there and skipping most of the questions - many of them well formulated and respectful. For me, it almost felt like a waste of everyone's time. I understand that he was probably tired right after the show, but he decided to do a chat and I was wondering how many fans were frustrated at the lack of substance. There should be a more effective way to connect. Adam really needs to get a bit deeper than announcing release dates and explaining yet again how the new music came about. I actually think that it is less about the music as it is more about connecting as a person/artist when doing a chat.
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Post by nightowl on Aug 18, 2019 16:43:03 GMT -5
I agree that fans do need to adjust to things running a bit differently now, because both the music industry and Adam himself have been changing. I think releasing two "sides" of the album at different times is clever - fans have more to look forward to and the artist himself can adjust based on how music is received. If FS, NE, and CIH were used as appetizers of sorts it's all fine with me, and if they end up on side B even better. I am still very invested in Adam's solo career even though I don't always jump up and down at everything. As with every fandom, some come and others go, but in the end Adam needs to do what he feels comfortable with. He is a lucky man. I do agree with SophieB 's opinion on Adam's fan engagement though. Right now he is super busy killing it with Queen of course, and I don't expect anything from him other than staying healthy (and happy) to keep the well oiled machine going. Even more so was it a pleasant surprise when he treated us to his recent backstage live IG video. In general though, I think that Adam could make his fan engagement way more interesting and he could learn a thing or two from Brian. For instance, during Adam's IG chat a few days ago, he could have just talked about stuff and not spend more than half the time sitting there and skipping most of the questions - many of them well formulated and respectful. For me, it almost felt like a waste of everyone's time. I understand that he was probably tired right after the show, but he decided to do a chat and I was wondering how many fans were frustrated at the lack of substance. There should be a more effective way to connect. Adam really needs to get a bit deeper than announcing release dates and explaining yet again how the new music came about. I actually think that it is less about the music as it is more about connecting as a person/artist. I agree with that. Although I don’t think, that this alone will help. The fans, that I know and whom he is close to losing don’t care about anything else, but his music. He’s a musician after all.
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Post by sizzling63 on Aug 18, 2019 17:39:48 GMT -5
I agree that fans do need to adjust to things running a bit differently now, because both the music industry and Adam himself have been changing. I think releasing two "sides" of the album at different times is clever - fans have more to look forward to and the artist himself can adjust based on how music is received. If FS, NE, and CIH were used as appetizers of sorts it's all fine with me, and if they end up on side B even better. I am still very invested in Adam's solo career even though I don't always jump up and down at everything. As with every fandom, some come and others go, but in the end Adam needs to do what he feels comfortable with. He is a lucky man. I do agree with SophieB 's opinion on Adam's fan engagement though. Right now he is super busy killing it with Queen of course, and I don't expect anything from him other than staying healthy (and happy) to keep the well oiled machine going. Even more so was it a pleasant surprise when he treated us to his recent backstage live IG video. In general though, I think that Adam could make his fan engagement way more interesting and he could learn a thing or two from Brian. For instance, during Adam's IG chat a few days ago, he could have just talked about stuff and not spend more than half the time sitting there and skipping most of the questions - many of them well formulated and respectful. For me, it almost felt like a waste of everyone's time. I understand that he was probably tired right after the show, but he decided to do a chat and I was wondering how many fans were frustrated at the lack of substance. There should be a more effective way to connect. Adam really needs to get a bit deeper than announcing release dates and explaining yet again how the new music came about. I actually think that it is less about the music as it is more about connecting as a person/artist. I agree with that. Although I don’t think, that this alone will help. The fans, that I know and whom heillose to losing don’t care about anything else, but his music. He’s a musician after all. True. (For me he is just a bit more than just a musician)
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Post by nightowl on Aug 18, 2019 17:43:38 GMT -5
I agree with that. Although I don’t think, that this alone will help. The fans, that I know and whom he’s close to losing don’t care about anything else, but his music. He’s a musician after all. True. ( For me he is just a bit more than just a musician) Maybe that’s the reason, why we’re still here - on a daily Basis.
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