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Post by lurleene on Aug 21, 2019 15:12:01 GMT -5
Seriously, the pink elephant talk needs to stop... the torch variety is so much more graceful and positive and true to the spirit of all QAL activities! plus (as a minor fact) it is more inclusive for those of us who are there to listen and to see Adam. Thank god Adam is not Freddie, thank god for his voice and his ability to superbly interpret any music he touches, consistently outdoing any original singer ... I agree. How much longer does Adam need to justify being there. Freddie's gone and won't be back so lets move on. As Roger said, "Freddie's dead, he won't be there so don't come". What Adam as had to endure with this collaboration is beyond ridiculous. Time to just say he's happy to be there and carry the torch! ETA: Also I think we have to remember Queen was not popular with the critics back in the day and they didn't like Freddie very much until he died, then he became this mythical figure that was so brilliant, he could never be replaced. Personally I prefer the way Adam sings Queen songs, much more dynamic! But that's just me!!!!! I could even take the occasional negative view from time to time. I wouldn't agree with them but some don't want to have a good time like the fans seem to. But what I don't understand is that Roger, Brian and Adam must read these reviews and most of the negative ones go with the god and pink elephant and irreplaceable. And they are happy to use it to back up their points. That OTT praise, for someone who is long gone and not performing now, often brings out the tribute band, cover band and Adam has no business trying to replace the great Freddie Mercury. Hardly any fans seeing them perform seem to care one bit about Adam's sexuality unless he brings it up. Everyone knows Freddie died many years ago and Adam is not trying to show why he deserves to be there instead of Freddie. It is not an either or. But it is being set up that way for some strange reason. Most reviews have been positive but I still don't get why anyone would want to open the door for some negative comparison. Some will be there automatically but why help? Especially since you have already declared yourself the loser of some non-contest. People really are coming to the shows to see Queen and Adam Lambert.
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Post by kryptoman68 on Aug 21, 2019 15:51:35 GMT -5
Let's face it, Adam is not for everybody despite his stellar vocal capabilities. I believe it is not despite, but because of his stellar vocal capabilities. Let's face it, he makes it sound all to easy. Too perfect. Too polished. Like a professional singer, you know None of the rock singers of the 60s and 70s were professional singers. Many struggled to hit the same notes live that they recorded in the studio. Can anybody find me a live recording of "Under Pressure" where Freddie even contemplates to do the "Why?". It is not very strong even on the studio version, once you compare it to Adam's. That's why I am an Adam Lambert fan - I like watching perfectionists deliver perfection, or as Paula Abdul put it aptly "It is like watching the Olympics and you are Michael Phelps". I don't want to watch an amateur struggle with the material, whether he wrote it himself or not. But for some people that lack of roughness makes them feel like it is a Broadway show, which implies trained professionals delivering a high-quality performance night after night. Queen practiced for days to polish the 20 minutes at Live Aid. The only natural part of that performance was probably the interaction with the camera man - the rest was rehearsed to perfection. Just the voice wasn't quite there 100% of the time, so it felt "real" I guess. So I actually feel that calling the QAL concert "part Broadway" was meant as a negative, but in my book it is actually a praise considering the source.
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Post by skaschep on Aug 21, 2019 16:00:16 GMT -5
twitter.com/DrBrianMay/status/1164279181586456577Dr. Brian May @drbrianmay THANK YOU NEW Orleans - city of dreams. The tour is nearly over, and Iām really going to miss these precious moments when the stars come out and light up the sky. You guys might have seen enough of these by now but ... for all you wonderfully welcoming folks at the show last night - this is for you !!! Like I promised ! You all made the sacrifice - to turn off the camera and turn on your light !! So here is the result - filmed by Pete Il Malandrone. And this one has a special climax - so make sure you stick with it to the end !!! God Bless !! Bri instagram.com/p/B1cJC4Rh4S9/
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Post by skaschep on Aug 21, 2019 16:05:00 GMT -5
The author replied on Twitter a couple of times. twitter.com/KeithSpera/status/1164231284119474177Simone the lack of retweets on a review always tells a lot about how well received the review is. The really great ones get 100's of retweets from the fans. I'm not so sure yours will hit 20. Question: do you even like Queen music? Keith Spera @keithspera I do, quite a bit.... Simone well that didn't show in your review. Maybe next time do yourself a favor and leave your bias at home. Go to the concert with an open mind and perhaps you even have a good time and enjoy yourself like I'm pretty sure the 15,000 others in the arena did. twitter.com/KeithSpera/status/1164232080219344896Keith Spera @keithspera I do like Queen, but I don't think Adam fits in as well as some other folks do.
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Post by skaschep on Aug 21, 2019 16:06:44 GMT -5
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Post by cassie on Aug 21, 2019 16:25:22 GMT -5
Let's face it, Adam is not for everybody despite his stellar vocal capabilities. I believe it is not despite, but because of his stellar vocal capabilities. Let's face it, he makes it sound all to easy. Too perfect. Too polished. Like a professional singer, you know None of the rock singers of the 60s and 70s were professional singers. Many struggled to hit the same notes live that they recorded in the studio. Can anybody find me a live recording of "Under Pressure" where Freddie even contemplates to do the "Why?". It is not very strong even on the studio version, once you compare it to Adam's. That's why I am an Adam Lambert fan - I like watching perfectionists deliver perfection, or as Paula Abdul put it aptly "It is like watching the Olympics and you are Michael Phelps". I don't want to watch an amateur struggle with the material, whether he wrote it himself or not. But for some people that lack of roughness makes them feel like it is a Broadway show, which implies trained professionals delivering a high-quality performance night after night. Queen practiced for days to polish the 20 minutes at Live Aid. The only natural part of that performance was probably the interaction with the camera man - the rest was rehearsed to perfection. Just the voice wasn't quite there 100% of the time, so it felt "real" I guess. So I actually feel that calling the QAL concert "part Broadway" was meant as a negative, but in my book it is actually a praise considering the source. You make a very good point I had not considered in that light. Many rock fans like that rough, raw sound, voice cracks, rasps, strains and all. Perhaps it is because it sounds more "genuine", as that is how the fans would sound if they tried to sing the numbers. The rock singer sounds like "one of the people". It is probably assumed to be more "spontaneous" too. But, as you pointed out, it is NOT spontaneous. It is rehearsed, practiced, refined, and performed numerous times. The "spontaneous" moves, riffs, and jokes are actually planned and repeated in multiple performances. It sounds fresh and new because most audience members do not attend multiple shows or watch countless videos of performances. I saw Paul McCartney in June and much of his banter seemed off the cuff. Then I read a review of another concert, and they quoted the same banter I had heard. At this level, these are ALL professionals in what they do. It is an act. No less than the QAL show is an "act." But, you are right. Adam SOUNDS like a professional, trained singer. He also consistently hits the mark without the bobbles typical of untrained singers. As such, he is probably too perfect for some rock enthusiasts. Even Brian brags about the show being "dangerous". I guess it is because it is live, but, they have worked, planned, rehearsed, coordinated, and timed it all so that the "danger" of a screw up is very minimal. Like you, I like to go to "perfect" shows. I can relax, knowing that no matter what happens, they have it under control and they will give a high quality sound and performance. I remember one or two early Adam performances where the sound monitors or playbacks didn't work and Adam could not hear the backing or his own voice. He struggled and couldn't hit the pitches. It was excruciating to me to watch and listen. I felt so bad for him, knowing how helpless he was to overcome that situation. (Remember the beginning of Ray of Light on the Divas show? The first verse was painful. When the sound in his monitors was fixed he actually shouts "There it is!!" and goes on to kill the rest of the song.) youtu.be/V1tS4MUvahUBTW, my turn to see QAL is TOMORROW!!!!!!!! I know it will be wonderful and "perfect" as only Queen and Adam can make it. P.S. I just got an email from the arena with rules about attending the show. "ā¢ Please do not stand in the aisles or in your seats." Yeah, that ain't gonna happen!
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Post by girldrummer on Aug 21, 2019 16:25:40 GMT -5
My guess is that Keith Spera could not name another singer who could front Queen as well as Adam does. And if he DID name another singer, I sure hope it wouldn't be MM or another one of those impersonators who Brian and Roger said would be an awful choice. Actually, I don't care what this guy thinks. Hoping this review just runs its course. Two more shows to go! Then it's VELVET TIME!
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Post by kryptoman68 on Aug 21, 2019 16:31:05 GMT -5
Can anybody find me a live recording of "Under Pressure" where Freddie even contemplates to do the "Why?". It is not very strong even on the studio version, once you compare it to Adam's. It was meant as a rhetorical question, but I really had to google it. Here is the first ever live performance on Under Pressure in 1981. Freddie was in a pretty good voice. Yet there was something missing... youtu.be/U_IhiEUp2bQ?t=144I find it interesting that the "Why?" was there in QAL 2012, then disappeared in 2014 and it took about 3 years to show up again. I wonder if Roger or Brian discouraged Adam from doing it in order to preserve his voice, and then eventually Adam could not hold back and decided to reincorporate it in the live shows? That's a question I would ask if I were an IG user The "Why?" is now my first go-to moment on any live recording, even before TSMGO and WWTLF.
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Post by girldrummer on Aug 21, 2019 16:37:39 GMT -5
And I totally agree with the opinions above about the so-called natural-ness of many typical rock singers who use that rough raspiness to great effect. I like a lot of those singers, too. That style can be great. But it's very true that it's all rehearsed. Bottom line for me, I want the singer to at least hit the notes. I love Dylan, Cocker, Rod Stewart and more. They're song stylists in their own right. And they worked hard for their own sound. They do hit the notes.
But Adam's sheer power and purity is beyond belief. And, for me, he does NOT ruin the heart of Queen's songs. The clean-ness and clarity of his voice just enhances their songs, IMO. He throws in a rough edge every now and then, and that's fine. But even Brian and Roger are in awe of the fact that "he never misses a note." They don't tell Adam to rough it up a bit. Never. Freddie was an icon, missed notes and all. Doesn't really matter. The music was great in his day, and it's being performed in a whole new way now, different but equally as good.
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Post by skaschep on Aug 21, 2019 16:43:57 GMT -5
Congrats @adamlambert with 63 million streams on @spotify for #WhatayaWantfromMe! š Now 63,036,442 streams (+52,544)! š§ (21 August 2019) #NowPlaying
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