I've never said any song Adam hasn't written on "Trespassing" or FYE is subpar, but going strictly by what resonates with me almost three years later from FYE (after traveling through thick, thin and hearing ever version known to man during GNT), the songs that I still love the best are "Down the Rabbit Hole," "Voodoo," "Soaked," "FYE," and "Broken Open." Of course, Soaked and FYE were not written by Adam and the others were.
I have actually never really cared for "Pick You Up," (though others love it) despite it being written by Adam and Weezer (who I have tremendous respect for). I never really cared for "Aftermath" until it was performed live.
I'm going purely from visceral reaction to the songs when I decide which I LOVE and what I only like on "Trespassing." I LOVE pretty much all the songs Adam wrote on AND "Underneath." I enjoy BTIKM and Naked Love, but don't feel that certain something – that je ne sais quoi – that I do get from Adam's songs.
I did not think NCOE was a great song initially, but felt Adam could sing the shit out of it. He does. With the new production, I pretty much love it right now. This is not loyalty, but just expression exactly how the songs resonate with me. I like songs that are about something or that tell a story or evoke emotion or imagery. This is where I generally find NCOE not as strong as the others, but the energy and incredible vocal make up for it.
I think most of us feel that way. The difference is we are talking about what is right for radio, not what song evokes strong emotions in the fans. That's where I think hard-core stans miss the purpose of a radio single. A single is not selected for the fans, it is selected for the masses.
Actually I take issue with this. Most of us? Generalizations are helpful only up to a point. I like Never Close Our Eyes very much on its own merits. I'm not supporting it as some generic song for the radio-listening masses who don't know any better.
Look, I absolutely expect/respect/encourage varying opinions on songs but I'm starting to be a little sensitive to the implication of some posts here that anyone who actually likes NCOE isn't as serious a fan and/or has pedestrian or unsophisticated taste in music. Really?
And, to show people do react differently, for me NCOE is extremely evocative - not just a good beat.
So a heartfelt thank you to everyone who is vigorously supporting NCOE for whatever reason (as I did BTIKM) but let's not assume it has no real supporters outside the Rebecca Black fan club, hmm?
Post by myspencer50 on Apr 23, 2012 21:16:15 GMT -5
Great post, mika! NCOE wasn't my choice as the next single but it's a great song and I think it will do really well! I do understand what others mean though when they say it doesn't have "the essence" of Adam. And I have only come to see & hear the "esssence of Adam" in this new album. We got a hint of it with Down the Rabbit Hole, Voo Doo, and Aftermath. But these new songs have Adam's words and ideas in a way that, for me is very identifiable as Adam. I am just floored at how "Adam" they are! I guess I just agreed with everyone, huh?! LOL! I think another thing we all agree on is that no matter what the song, Adam always makes it his own!
OMG -- Like you TOTALLY live in the VALLEY??? OMG!!!!!
(I lived in SoCal for about 4 years total and had a friend in Woodland Hills...and I used to do Valley Girl impressions really well (from when I was in college in Thousand Oaks -- where the girls would like study at the beach!!!! Malibu, OMG!!!!) LOL.
No, I live 20 minutes north of the valley in Ventura County! Beautiful area! So you went to Cal Lutheran, huh?
I am another fan who loves NCOE. I love the words as well as the beat. It reminds me of moments in my life that I just didn't want to end. This song also makes me focus on living in the present. It is easy for me to worry about what will happen tomorrow and forget to enjoy what is right in front of me. I hate to see the song get so much dissing!
You do not have to shout but if you want to chat....
crazylady: login" again and then I will get the "redirecting" message at the top. Weird, huh
May 14, 2013 12:58:36 GMT -5
butterfly: I also have to login twice, such as crazylady.
May 14, 2013 13:43:48 GMT -5
crazylady: Sorry you are having the same login problem, butterfly, but at least I am in good company! At least we can log in! I'd panic if I couldn't! LOL
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maitospf: crazyladym...happening to me too!
May 15, 2013 19:42:49 GMT -5
ayleim: Just checking - so there were NO Adam-sightings in the performance show right? Then I don't have to worry about being near the TV later tonight, I can just listen from the kitchen. :D
May 15, 2013 22:25:54 GMT -5
Q3: The second log-in is part of the security system to protect the site from hackers. If you want to avoid it, select the option to keep me logged in.
May 16, 2013 11:18:07 GMT -5
vivlite: Good to know about the log-in option..I kept wondering if I was imagining things when I had to log on twice..whew..
May 16, 2013 13:59:55 GMT -5
vivlite: Gotta stop down here more often..
May 16, 2013 14:01:03 GMT -5
crazylady: Q3, thanks for the update on the login process! Really appreciate it!
May 16, 2013 18:20:10 GMT -5
maitospf: Yes thank you Q3. Thought I was jinked there for a minute
May 16, 2013 21:11:10 GMT -5
maitospf: Woops - sorry! jinxed (the ghosts of my english teachers would haunt me for not proofreading, so there you you go) ... 8-|
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minnie12: this is great, Sauli deserves the support. There's no negativity here and that's nice.
May 17, 2013 23:57:11 GMT -5
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minnie12: Nice to see all the pics of Sauli and his friends. Has a lot of female friends. Goes out a lot with Ade?
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blueberry: A tech question. When I post, I'm stuck in BB Code, can't get back to Preview. Any ideas? I have Preview as default in my profile, but that doesn't help.
May 18, 2013 23:56:59 GMT -5
Q3: blueberry. there should be a two labels on tabs at the bottom of the REPLY box -- one labeled Preview and one labeled BBCode. Can you see these or are they gone?
May 19, 2013 2:08:40 GMT -5
blueberry: Q3, I can still see the labels, but when I click on the Preview label, nothing happens. And every time I start a new post, it automatically takes me to BB Code. Otherwise it doesn't matter, but posting pictures would be easier in Preview (copy+paste).
May 19, 2013 2:14:12 GMT -5
JazzRocks: Q3 - I forgot where I click to make a contribution to Atop.
May 19, 2013 10:30:45 GMT -5
Q3: Oh in the site conversion the link to support ATop went away. I will restore it.
May 20, 2013 9:30:25 GMT -5
JazzRocks: Thanks Q3.
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