Thanks everyone for taking the time to read my long post. I agree with you that it is definitely a boyfriend song. But because of the final part, "After our beautiful karma .... pain" and "we fade", I believe it is about a past relationship, not Sauli. I think it is about Brad Bell (Cheeks).
I'm late, as usual, and sorry if the conversation has moved on, but I just wanted to join in thanking Nikki for her careful interpretation, which seems pretty spot on to me.
I don't know, of course, about Sauli vs Brad vs other unknown, and I suspect the song is really more about a generic combination of lovers. But I wanted to add a shade of difference to the reading of the lyrics that makes it gentler, and more applicable to Sauli (or a current, happy love affair).
People have commented that the vibe of the song suggests a steamy nighttime (beachy) rendevous. All the images in the song are cyclical ones--the constellations, the tides--this cycle is the rule of nature that Adam must play by. But the biggest, almost unspoken cycle that controls the song and its narrative is simply the night-day cycle. All relationships, good ones as well as bad ones, have a cyclical energy, which ebbs and swells. And since this song is all sexy-sexy ;D, the energy swells in it happen at night, of course. The parting pain--the thing that makes the lovers, like the constellations, fade a little dimmer--may just be the rising sun, as is stated in the final line of the verse "as blades of sunlight send night away." Hardly, by the way, the gloomiest note for a song about love to end on.
Sometimes lovers get all shady-sexy in the depths of night, and sometimes, in the light of the day, their passion dims a little. But listening to Adam talk about everything that he's particularly enjoyed about this last "normal" year and a half, I suspect he likes that laid-back, less glamorous daytime energy just as much. (By the way, how frickin well does this them fit with the Light/Dark concept of the album?!) One thing I really about the imagery in this song is that the Natural world that rules the song is not just a fierce wilderness. Sometimes the lion and the lamb lay down in it peacefully. Sometimes nature lulls with the gentle rhythm of the waves.
By the way, I just noticed this, but it's interesting to lay the lyrics of By The Rules side by side with those of Nirvana, especially as we are wondering if the former could be about Sauli, and know that the latter is. There's a lot of overlap in the images. Nirvana begins: "When the stars are too cold/ frozen over the glow/ on the edge of the night/ we can be their light" ...and continues in the second verse "Through the dark there's a way/ there's a love there's a place/ Where we don't have to hide/ we can dream all night./ So follow me through the sky/ And watch the oceans collide/ Just keep holding my hand/ as we're taking off/ I know where we'll land."
Sounds in a way like the calmer flip side to the ebb-and-flow love affair of BTR. Nirvana being, I guess, the place where a relationship goes when it rises above that tide-like natural cycle. But it could also just be that quiet space "on the edge of the night" where, after a night of passion, lovers faced with the cooler, faded light of the morning find warmth and calmer comfort in each others arms.
vivlite: We should call shoutbox, Atop 2! I didn't know there was a separate thread going on down here..I'll have to visit more often. I see posters here I don't see on the thread. I hope that doesn't mean you feel alienated on the main thread..
May 31, 2013 19:31:04 GMT -5
lorraine: I don't know what PM"d means and OI don't know how to post on the adamtopia thread> I am hopeless!!!
Jun 3, 2013 2:38:11 GMT -5
SophieB: Hi Lorraine!Have just seen your shout out. I'll try to help with my reply on page2 of today's thread.
Jun 3, 2013 5:17:47 GMT -5
lorraine: Thank you SophieB. I hope I have followed your instructions correctly and that you receive this message. I will also have to figure out how to post on the regular thread.
Jun 3, 2013 5:51:59 GMT -5
SophieB: Lorraine I sent you a second PM with those instructions in it...perhaps you didn't see it. It's there somewhere
Jun 3, 2013 9:50:46 GMT -5
vivlite: LOL...I sent Lorraine a PM too..look for a balloon above your messages. Or click on messages and any
Jun 3, 2013 17:53:07 GMT -5
vivlite: new ones will show up as NEW in purple. The balloon doesn't always work.
Jun 3, 2013 17:53:37 GMT -5
QueeenAl: Sometimes I am happy when a day or two on Atop passes me by .... THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM ...
Jun 7, 2013 15:40:44 GMT -5
halogirl: Hi! I just stumbled upon this webpage and registered......Now it's almost 2 a.m. I'm gonna get some shut eye for several hours. Good morning and I will do some shouting later if and when time allows this weekend.... I
Jun 8, 2013 0:41:47 GMT -5
halogirl: I'm watching ET late at night. They are showing Reese Witherspoon getting arrested. Embarrassing!.... I'd be too...only I don't drink. I missed part of it because I was busy writing this....I better get my hiney in bed and to sleep! Next nastiest feuds
Jun 8, 2013 0:47:03 GMT -5
Q3: Proboards is aware of and working on the vanishing avatar problem. I will keep you posted.
Jun 9, 2013 9:39:46 GMT -5
vivlite: Q3..I posted on page 8 about Atop freezing this afternoon and I tried again later to log in. Took forever. I posted on the thread in case others are having trouble. Do you want us to PM you?
Jun 9, 2013 17:25:16 GMT -5
Q3: Viv -- I got it from the thread. On the list.
Jun 10, 2013 0:01:17 GMT -5
vivlite: Thanks, Q3!!!
Jun 10, 2013 12:27:22 GMT -5
mszue: I did not want to try editing my earlier post Q3 but I tried again on Safari, just now, and had no problem!! ~shrug....fyi
Jun 11, 2013 14:32:22 GMT -5
mszue: And then, when posting the shout out, I got an error message...with the lined out 'angry bear' message, but the shout posted....call me confused....but they need to seriously revisit their hiring criteria as they are not getting it right, at the moment! :(
Jun 11, 2013 14:35:39 GMT -5
Q3: They are working on the Member Search function -- if you are looking for someone use the page numbers to move thru to the person you want. That is working, database look-up is not working.
Jun 17, 2013 16:16:26 GMT -5