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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Jun 29, 2012 16:36:46 GMT -5
Pretending to by young(er) hasn't gotten us anywhere. [laughs] True. But even the technology is getting outdated. I generally only see faxes in offices anymore....which may be *why* its something the independents may use/may have used, as their music actions is involved within a job. IMO, song requests from individuals are less likely to be faxed, as what office is gonna be sanguine about work machines being used for personal song requests? And most people I know have gotten rid of their home fax machines. In your research, how prominent was the use of faxes, and when did the articles you read get published? Its worth knowing if they've been written in the last 3 or so years before we get excited about another possible method. |
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Post by bullsfan on Jun 29, 2012 16:59:08 GMT -5
Oh wow, my gut feeling is that a fax would just end up in the trash. I don't think that's something fans should start getting into. Texting just makes the most sense on a whole lot of levels
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Post by Jablea on Jun 29, 2012 17:51:00 GMT -5
Oh wow, my gut feeling is that a fax would just end up in the trash. I don't think that's something fans should start getting into. Texting just makes the most sense on a whole lot of levels Now, I don't know when this article was put together as he doesn't mention twitter etc but the firm is hiring employees this year and I find chat about him back to 2005 at least. This is from a promoters site. He has a whole series on getting radio play. www.radio-media.com/song-album/articles/airplay13.htmlFor those of us watching timelines he says in another article.. Check out his articles on payola |
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Jun 29, 2012 18:05:41 GMT -5
Interesting..... Hmmm....
This looks like good info from the PROMOTER'S vantage. This seems to be what RCA reps should be doing. (Whether they are or not is a different story)
Not sure, however, if it works from an "Average Joe" vantage. If radio wants to know "how many people in our listener area" are listening, I don't think this sort of faxing arrangement is what they are expecting to see. I think they're going to want to see phone calls, texts, and Twitter.
IMO. YMMV.
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Jun 29, 2012 18:06:52 GMT -5
BTW - something is confusing me.
Why is the faxing costing money? Its just a fax.
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Jun 29, 2012 18:21:09 GMT -5
ah, they are talking about promoters with a new song to pimp rather than listeners trying to get through to a station with a request. Makes sense, though I'm not sure whether he is talking more about indy stations / non Top 40 ones.
I was reading through a bunch of questions from DJs/PDs to a testing guru advice column on AllAccess and the form of listener interaction they mentioned the most was phone calls, ie. they noticed when the phones were blowing up for a particular song. I'll try to dig up some quotes and info from that a little later, if I have a chance, it's kind of scattered throughout.
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Post by Jablea on Jun 29, 2012 19:10:18 GMT -5
Agree, it certainly couldn't be added to an every day thing by fans, but a targeted one day campaign with Adam pictures and hand drawn fan pictures.......(ooo side thought - is anyone sending hand drawn signs to stations via twitter/email etc like the ones fans show in the youtube videos?) Alright, back to the targeted campaign. The bigger stations don't have faxes listed but a lot of the little ones seem to if you dig. In fact your Portland page has one. www.z100portland.com/pages/contact/index.phpAnd what is everyone's effort on thank you notes? I usually put down on my mediabase request that I heard it while driving to... or it came on at 5:00, thank you. And for those that don't have faxes, well the US Post Office reportedly still works for everything other than Fault magazines. We've been bolloxed with "don't act like Claymates" and don't act your age. Well radio stations should learn that it's the younger generation that is cutting out radio in favor of Pandora etc. If they want to keep listeners for their advertisers then they should be keeping the ones they have. (ok speaking generally of HAC stations because I don't reconize 5/6s of the songs on my top 40 station's mediabase) Anyway, we are following an artist who says "be yourself". I'm not sure the game of "behave like all the other sheep" will work for us. Kids come up with all kinds of out of the box things, it's ok if we do too. |
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Post by Jablea on Jun 29, 2012 19:18:10 GMT -5
BTW - something is confusing me. Why is the faxing costing money? Its just a fax. For the promoters with a national campaign it's long-distance phone charges. In his advertisement for an employee he talks about possibly contacting 2000 stations. And pre-computer programs and copy machines that faxed it was all different. But the concept of skin in the game with the phone calls as mentioned earlier does seem to be important. Twitter is anonymous, email is anonymous. The only thing that can really be tracked to a person who isn't spamming (ie one call = one person) is something that requires a phone. Facebook can even be spammed although it takes more work. Nobody mentioned in their request the other day to text z100 that I'd be getting a text back from Elvis Duran. Do they do that on their other request methods? |
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Post by myspencer50 on Jun 29, 2012 19:33:14 GMT -5
When you text Z100 you get a reply for whichever show is on at that time. You probably request in the morning, during Elvis  |
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Post by stardust on Jun 29, 2012 21:34:47 GMT -5
Mediabase Update
HAC
38 40 ADAM LAMBERT Never Close Our Eyes 398 413 -15 1.663
+6 Spins
+9 Bullet
+0.048 AI
C CHR
47 49 ADAM LAMBERT Never Close Our Eyes 139 153 -14 2.281
+4 Spins
+8 Bullet
+0.089 AI
C HAC
42 42 ADAM LAMBERT Never Close Our Eyes 167 153 14 0.556
= Spins
-2 Bullet
-0.045 AI
from Pam
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Jun 29, 2012 21:47:41 GMT -5
I think the idea of tweeting a picture of a close up of a handwritten note or sign to a station could be kinda cute, and thank you tweets/emails etc. are always good.
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Post by aralid on Jun 30, 2012 5:31:05 GMT -5
the leaders list today is really depressing. the only station who increased their spins compared to last week is Sirius (+3 spins). :( And still no new spinners. Why is RCA not able to push a good pop song at least into Top 50 in CHR? >:(
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Post by kittykay on Jun 30, 2012 7:47:46 GMT -5
I don't know if this should go in numbers or the main post. Found at FYE.
Note: Jim Shearer is the host of VH1 countdown
so this is about getting ncoe on the vh1 countdown
timesmasher @timesmasher
@njlovinlambert IKR? People have even tweeted Jim Shearer directly and got nothing in response.
Jim Shearer @jimshearer
@timesmasher Take it to a higher power: @vh1music
timesmasher @timesmasher
@jimshearer Been there, done that, as have others. No response.
Jim Shearer @jimshearer
@timesmasher There is no "been there, done that," you get the 'Berts united and start an uprising!
so looks like he's (the host of the countdown) is telling us to tweet @vh1music en masse.
so we should probably do that? like, as long as we're respectful about it. key word there.
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Post by Jablea on Jun 30, 2012 8:19:19 GMT -5
His tweet about "get the Berts united" has only been retweeted once (granted it's only been up two hours) so I'd say he might have a point that there hasn't been any twitstorm of requests.
Need to put it on the front page and treat it like a contest.
Example from yesterday
VH1 Music @vh1music
Alright tweeters, who should we be listening to on this #VH1FanFriday? Ready....GO!
They had only 20 retweets and addtweets probably about half Adam fans, a third Kris Allen fans, and the rest Haley Reinhards. Maybe they should consider a different day that followfriday.
eta - twitter doesn't count when you add your own words as a retweet (why?)
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Post by stardust on Jun 30, 2012 9:05:54 GMT -5
Mediabase Update
CHR
53 58 LAMBERT, ADAM Never Close Our Eyes 263 285 -22 0.933*
* from 6/28
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38 40 ADAM LAMBERT Never Close Our Eyes 394 415 -21 1.687
-4 spins
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+0.024 AI
C CHR
48 49 ADAM LAMBERT Never Close Our Eyes 134 151 -17 2.213
-5 spins
-3 bullet
-0.068 AI
C HAC
42 43 ADAM LAMBERT Never Close Our Eyes 167 152 15 0.57
= spins
+1 bullet
+0.014 AI
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