With some help from a Facebook post from Adam Lambert Fan Club here are some links and a timeline for the Hicklin & OUT magazine controversy from 6 years ago. This is for you NYE newbies, etc. I'm sure our own 4Ms has this nice little timeline in our archives too that she'll link us too.
I have all of the parts of the original OUT 2009 interview except for the slideshow photos. The 1st half of the interview is the longest and is still online. I, also, have it in the bibliography. The 2nd half is in the bibliography and follows on the same page. Finally, Shana Naomi Krochmal, the interviewer, writes her own open letter.
The interview starts with the slideshow and introduction.
27. Krochmal, Shana Naomi. "Adam Lambert: The Out Interview, Slideshow" OUT Magazine 12 November 2009 atop.proboards.com/post/90975/thread The Out 100 Breakout of the Year on life inside the Idol machine, out in the real world, and in the love game.
Out 100: 2009
Adam Lambert - Breakout of the Year
“I’m doing the best I fucking can, you know?” Adam Lambert asks, as if there’s any way to satisfy all his critics or fans, none of whom even knew his name a year ago. In 2009, he catapulted from Wicked chorus boy to American Idol cover boy, all before his debut album even had a track list. For Rolling Stone he dallied with a snake; in Details he got frisky with a naked woman. “I’m the same guy doing the same thing on a larger scale,” he says now. “I’ve always been an entertainer.”
Lambert, 27, was a rare catch for Idol: a professional performer. “I’ve lived in L.A. for eight years,” he says. “It’s about making a good TV show. I just wanted to be really careful that it didn’t turn into a fucking pageant. I can sing my face off. All this other stuff is part of a personality, a persona.”
During the show, Lambert’s strategy was to play hot and cold, camping it up one week and dressing down the next. “To me, it’s not that different,” he says. “I’m just wearing a suit.” But when photos of him kissing an ex-boyfriend made the media rounds, Lambert freaked out. “I was like, ‘Great, that’s gonna fuck things up.’ It was the first time since I’d come out of the closet at 18 that I had to think about it.” He confirmed the pictures were real but didn’t explicitly say he was gay until after the finale. “I didn’t want to acknowledge it as a mistake or something I was ashamed of—I’m not. It’s part of who I am, but because our nation is the way it is, it’s an announcement. If I lose some fans, fuck it. I need to be happy too.”
And though Lambert’s comfortable speaking his mind with industry suits, navigating a new relationship with boyfriend Drake LaBry scares him. “I’ve only been in love twice,” he says. “I have a lot of life experience, but I don’t know shit about love.”
I like you, I really do. Although I’d never watched American Idol, I became a fan this year thanks to your unapologetic flamboyance and sexual swagger. It was refreshing to see someone playing by his own rules among so many cookie-cutters. And although you narrowly lost to Kris Allen, you were the real winner for those of us who saw your success as a test of America’s growing tolerance. That’s why we’re proud to have you in this year’s Out 100, along with all the other men and women who don’t believe their sexuality should be a barrier to success. It’s unfortunate, therefore, that your record label and management don’t share the same view.
We’re curious whether you know that we made cover offers for you before American Idol was even halfway through its run. Apparently, Out was too gay, even for you. There was the issue of what it would do to your record sales, we were told. Imagine! A gay musician on the cover of a gay magazine. What might the parents think! It’s only because this cover is a group shot that includes a straight woman that your team would allow you to be photographed at all -- albeit with the caveat that we must avoid making you look “too gay.” (Is that a medical term? Just curious). Luckily, you seemed unaware that a similar caution was issued to our interviewer.
Perhaps we should have had you and Cyndi in a tongue lock. That would be radical. It’s odd, because this magazine has done covers with Pete Wentz and Lady Gaga -- getting straight men and women to do Out is easy these days. It gives them cred. Getting gay stars like yourself is another matter. Much easier to stick you in Details, where your homosexuality can be neutralized by having you awkwardly grabbing a woman’s breast and saying, “Women are pretty.” So are kittens, Adam, but it doesn’t mean you have to make out with them. Imagine how much more radical it would have been to go down on a guy instead of that six-foot Barbie. We don’t think you would have a problem with that -- why should you? -- but your record label would, and letting them dictate the terms is the very opposite of rock ’n’ roll. And did you read the article? You would think your entire fan base was made up of women and heterosexual men, or “straight dudes” as the writer describes them, just so we can all be clear. No mention of your gay fans, which is kind of disappointing, don’t you think, given what your success represents?
We don’t want to sound ungrateful -- you agreed to do our cover, and your interview is gracious and frank -- but if the Out 100 has a purpose it’s to challenge the kind of apartheid that lays down one rule for gay mags and one for all others. We think you probably feel the same way -- you even say as much -- so we don’t mean to diminish your achievements this year. That’s why you’re in this issue. You’re a pioneer, an out gay pop idol at the start of his career. Someone has to be first, and we’re all counting on you not to mess this up. You have to find your own path and then others can follow. We just hope it’s a path that’s honest and true and that you choose to surround yourself with people who celebrate your individuality. The irony is that right now it would be easier to get Kris Allen to do a solo cover shoot for us. But only because he’s straight.
Aaron Hicklin, Editor in Chief
P.S. It would be remiss of me not to thank the amazing dedication, perseverance, and grace under fire of the Out editorial team that put this -- the largest original portfolio of its kind in any magazine -- together in challenging circumstances. In particular, I must acknowledge deputy editor Bill Keith, who oversaw the project, photo director Annie Chia, who has made this most daunting of issues as painless as it’s ever been, and photographer Jason Bell, who took on this time-consuming assignment with a relish and passion that was simply awe-inspiring.
For more details on what happened when journalist Shana Naomi Krochmal met with Lambert and his team, and in part inspired this letter, head here.
To read Part One of our interview with Lambert, head here. To read Part Two, head here. To see the full 2009 Out 100 portfolio, head here.
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