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Post by swarm on Jul 20, 2012 3:19:34 GMT -5
[/b] NAL? Gurl please! hahaha[/color] ...had Top 20 CHR hits. [/quote] Who else ya got? :D Like Adam says, most of the people serving what he's trying to serve are women. And if having a Top 20 song on CHR were considered a "hit" why is BTIKM called a flop single?
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Post by csharpminor on Jul 20, 2012 4:11:35 GMT -5
billboard 200
trespassing at #171 (lw #165)
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Post by riversend on Jul 20, 2012 8:18:35 GMT -5
And if having a Top 20 song on CHR were considered a "hit" why is BTIKM called a flop single?
BTIKM never made it to the top 20 on CHR. It peaked at #50. John Mayer has had at least one top ten pop song. It did come all the way back in 2002. Daughtry's song No Surprise peaked a #9 in 2009. Gavin DeGraw just missed the top ten this year with I'm not Over You peaking at #11 for a few weeks. NAL peaked at #10 in 2009.
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Post by crazyoldgal on Jul 20, 2012 9:23:51 GMT -5
ahh... I see a little spike on AMazon...was as high as 66 now at 72. BUt still a sale is a sale, hopefully keeping him in the top 200.
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Post by evamaria on Jul 20, 2012 9:48:33 GMT -5
Who else ya got? :D Like Adam says, most of the people serving what he's trying to serve are women. And if having a Top 20 song on CHR were considered a "hit" why is BTIKM called a flop single? Yes, most of the people serving his type of music are women. Given the prejudice against gay men, that doesn't help him. His song went to 17 on HAC, not CHR. HAC has fewer listeners than CHR, so a song has to make top ten on HAC to get the audience impression (potential listeners) it needs to sell. I think the required number is at least ten million in audience impression. If he'd made it to top 20 on CHR, no one would be calling it a flop
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Post by tigerlily on Jul 20, 2012 11:00:27 GMT -5
Who else ya got? :D Like Adam says, most of the people serving what he's trying to serve are women. And if having a Top 20 song on CHR were considered a "hit" why is BTIKM called a flop single? You asked for a solo male pop (not urban) superstar/hitmaker. I gave you some males who have had hits (CHR Top 20 or higher) since 2010, or in the last two years. That means that it is possible to get a song into the Top 20 on CHR if you are a solo male singer, who is not Urban. It isn't the majority of the songs on the Top 20, but it is possible. I never once said that these people are superstars, just that they have accomplished what we were hoping Adam would accomplish with his singles this era. If Adam had one song that did as well as WWFM off of TSP, the entire situation would be different at this point. Adam Levine is selling those massive amounts of singles because of his celebrity status, not because of his band. For the last couple of his mega hit singles, Maroon 5 has basically been a back up band. The same thing is true for Chris Daughtry. To the large majority of people, "Daughtry" means Chris Daughtry. They are both considered to be solo acts, to the large majority of the general listening public. Because the AI is so much higher for a #17 on CHR versus a #17 on HAC. Plus, most of those arftists that I listed had their song(s) go into the top 10-12 on CHR and even higher (top 5) on HAC. If Adam had a song like that this era, he would have another WWFM. WWFM was considered a hit due to the AI it had when it peaked on CHR and HAC and the amount of downloads it sold. Compare those numbers to BTIKM. That's the difference between a #17 on HAC and the songs from the artists that I listed in my previous post.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 12:02:05 GMT -5
Number 18 on BB Dance Chart!
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Post by evamaria on Jul 20, 2012 12:06:06 GMT -5
You asked for a solo male pop (not urban) superstar/hitmaker. I gave you some males who have had hits (CHR Top 20 or higher) since 2010, or in the last two years. That means that it is possible to get a song into the Top 20 on CHR if you are a solo male singer, who is not Urban. It isn't the majority of the songs on the Top 20, but it is possible. I never once said that these people are superstars, just that they have accomplished what we were hoping Adam would accomplish with his singles this era. If Adam had one song that did as well as WWFM off of TSP, the entire situation would be different at this point. They succeeded, but most didn't do it with dance tracks. Of those you mentioned, Levine is the only American who did that, and that was thanks to the Voice. That makes him unusual. Calvin Harris is a Brit, with so far a single hit. Timberlake hasn't had a hit since 2007. Daughtry is rock, and the rest are singer songwriters. I agree that had either ncoe or btikm performed as well as wwfm, we wouldn't be discussing this issue. Having even a single hit would have made it possible for him to release the more unusual tracks, like Trespassing, Kickin In, or Cuckoo.
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Post by tigerlily on Jul 20, 2012 12:30:33 GMT -5
You asked for a solo male pop (not urban) superstar/hitmaker. I gave you some males who have had hits (CHR Top 20 or higher) since 2010, or in the last two years. That means that it is possible to get a song into the Top 20 on CHR if you are a solo male singer, who is not Urban. It isn't the majority of the songs on the Top 20, but it is possible. I never once said that these people are superstars, just that they have accomplished what we were hoping Adam would accomplish with his singles this era. If Adam had one song that did as well as WWFM off of TSP, the entire situation would be different at this point. They succeeded, but most didn't do it with dance tracks. Of those you mentioned, Levine is the only American who did that, and that was thanks to the Voice. That makes him unusual. Calvin Harris is a Brit, with so far a single hit. Timberlake hasn't had a hit since 2007. Daughtry is rock, and the rest are singer songwriters. I agree that had either ncoe or btikm performed as well as wwfm, we wouldn't be discussing this issue. Having even a single hit would have made it possible for him to release the more unusual tracks, like Trespassing, Kickin In, or Cuckoo. Hey, just answering the question of what other SOLO MALE SINGERS, who are not urban, have had a hit or hits on Pop radio in the last couple of years since Adam has been releasing singles. The original question did not say: 1. not on a reality singing competition 2. not a singer songwriter type 3. not a guitar player 4. not a Brit 5. not on his first hit 6. not.....the list could go on and on......
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Post by stardust on Jul 20, 2012 12:59:55 GMT -5
Adam Lambert: Trespassing: BB200 171 (165); Never Close Our Eyes: Dance Club 23 (29)
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