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Post by wal on Jul 20, 2012 20:10:29 GMT -5
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Post by whatyasay on Jul 20, 2012 20:10:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 20:11:06 GMT -5
Fantasy Springs is soooo cute!  It's probably just all the germs one picks up on an airplane! Tonight is a radio show, and IMO, not all that important. Yes, Adam is a professional and will always go all out! But tomorrow is a much more important gig, IMO. If he needs to hold back tonight, so he is ready for tomorrow, so be it. And fuck those freeway closures from last night because that long ridiculous, going around in circles, drive has had me exhausted all day!! |
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Post by vikkisusanne on Jul 20, 2012 20:17:00 GMT -5
I was lucky enough to be at the concert last night in a great seat (row A - just behind the inner circle seats) and I want to chime in with the other people who attended. He looked and sounded WONDERFUL. I made a point at turning and checking out his view of the crowd and the stadium looked really big and full. Everyone was standing and waving their arms and singing - totally energized. The vibe I got from Adam - safe. He appeared to me to be confident and safe. Chatted like he was among friends...knew that he was. If he wanted to swish it up a little: he did. If he wanted to strut a little: he did. I loved it when he said something like " we know each other, don't we?" Yeah, he felt safe - that was his stage, his band and his crowd. The people leaving were so happy. There's nothing like the atmosphere at these things, is there? I loved watching the dad leading his daughter and her friend down the aisle towards the front and the daughter was saying "but our seats are back up there" and her dad had such a grin on his face as he kept leading her down to the better seats he got to surprise her. Priceless! Right in front of me were a family all dressed up fabulously, right down to their trespassing glow sticks. The son was prob around 15, looked like he could have been a shyer, high school Adam - only he is prob trying to gain some weight rather than lose some. He stood between mom and dad. They all three knew the words to every song and were having so much fun rocking out together. Precious! The outfits, the joy, the excitement - no wonder we all want to go to show after show. It's so damn energizing. Like you feel after an evening of hard laughing or screaming on a roller coaster. It's cathartic. I love posts like this. :Clap: :Clap: It just warms my heart to hear the little side stories and observations from fans who have attended the concerts. The dad and his daughter, the family with the glow sticks. :2tears: :2tears: Just awesome. I am all verklempt. |
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Post by wal on Jul 20, 2012 20:18:03 GMT -5
Gossip Cop @gossipcop REPORT: Mariah Carey Finalizing "American Idol" Deal ➙ gossipcop.com/zgexx ... On July 13, Gossip Cop reported that Carey was in talks to join “American Idol,” and it appears those negotiations have moved forward. Former “Idol” contestant Adam Lambert has also been discussed as a possible new judge. Meanwhile, the only judge left from the show’s first season — Randy Jackson — has not officially confirmed that he’ll be on the panel when “Idol” returns next January. Stay tuned. |
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Post by wal on Jul 20, 2012 20:19:46 GMT -5
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Post by mika on Jul 20, 2012 20:20:20 GMT -5
Doing something I know I shouldn't be doing: posting before reading the entire thread. But I'm tempted to jump in and I have no self restraint, lol, so sorry in advance. 1) About the review: I agree with a few others: "limp-wristed" is a slur. It doesn't matter if it was a positive review, and it doesn't matter if Adam was camping it up with the best of 'em on stage last night--using a word so firmly and traditionally rooted in negative and bigoted stereotyping of gays is offensive. Placing the word, as it was, in a sentence harping on his "caked on make-up" and "poof-y hair" (um, yeaaah) only makes it more blatant. I'd have no problem with a reviewer pointing out that Adam's sexuality contributed to his winning performance last night. This may win me scowls from some people here, but I'd be fine with a reviewer commenting that, in his campiness, Adam was bringing some traditionally-gay sass and charm to a typically mainstream stage. But as far as I'm concerned, using a slur is offensive, plain and simple. The only way you get a pass in my book is if you are gay yourself and are taking over offensive language for your own purposes--the rest of us don't have a clue, and have no right to that word. I was going to unleash some Old Testament wrath about this but as I kept reading I saw the always articulate MWP and Bridget had already taken it on - my truly heartfelt thanks to them and Nica and anyone else who actually 'gets it'. (And apologies to those I missed who took issue earlier - I just can't re-read - but thank you too.) This language is not okay, not a poor choice of words. Also, 'Hey, Adam actually was 'limp-wristed' - well, I'm not even going near that one. And, for the record, I don't even know what the hell 'politically correct' means since pretty much every time I see it being used it's as an excuse for someone to use language offensive to some group but who doesn't want to give any credibility to the offended person(s) feelings. Why does it matter? Well, (sigh) for so many damned reasons. This is hateful language - however cute or merely ill-advised you may find it - trust me on this one, despite what your reported gay (friend, hairdresser, cousin, etc.) may say. And the impact? Well, how about how a gay man or, more important, boy feels upon reading it? A recent study on homeless LGBT young people (I don't have it in front of me -- see GLAAD site or I'll be happy to provide a link) found a shocking percentage (around 40% I believe) of homeless, at-risk youth self identify as LGBT -- and the two dominant reasons they give for leaving home: fear of social rejection - esp by family and/or actually having been rejected - even kicked out of their homes. When I finished reading that sad report (as someone who once worked w/homeless young people yrs ago), I was shocked - I really thought the numbers would not be so high at this point, I thought about Adam (and others like Chris Colfer) and how he IS making a difference just being in middle America's awareness, speaking up, building bridges, and nurturing understanding. When a young person (or anyone really but older people build up a shell) reads this sort of degrading language directed at a successful person like Adam, it boosts fears that someone so successful and mainstream can be derided without the objection of even supposed 'allies' - because it's 'not that bad'. (BTW - Trans kids have the worst time of all so defending Adam by defending his 'alpha' masculinity kind of misses the point.) It's not okay just because s/he didn't use the word f*ggot - given the contempt it was implied. Doesn't matter if s/he is gay - lots of self-hate out there. Doesn't matter if you don't consider this homophobic or think we need to overlook it because it was an otherwise good review - it still uses the same terminology regularly used to demean gay men and set them apart as 'other' and 'lesser'. (I also think it's misogynistic as it's the use of supposed feminine characteristics to insult a man, but I'll leave that to you.) Sorry to be a downer - I'm sure most think I should lighten up. (Not likely to happen on this topic - sorry.) Please return to your regularly scheduled programming. But let me end by again saying thank you to those who did speak out (against the tide it seemed) - your comments really made me feel much better. |
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Post by savvy92 on Jul 20, 2012 20:23:48 GMT -5
On phone 4 hours getting wifi hooked up...... aaarrrgggghhhh. Is that how you spell rage?
I only get furious with outsourcing when I can't understand the person (3 separate people) who couldn't figure out why it wouldn't connect. (sshhhhh, no to Virgin Mobile) but I digress,
ANY LIVE STREAM TONIGHT?
ANY TWITTER LIST TONIGHT?
Really need some thing to chill out with.
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Post by wal on Jul 20, 2012 20:25:41 GMT -5
On phone 4 hours getting wifi hooked up...... aaarrrgggghhhh. Is that how you spell rage? I only get furious with outsourcing when I can't understand the person (3 separate people) who couldn't figure out why it wouldn't connect. (sshhhhh, no to Virgin Mobile) but I digress, ANY LIVE STREAM TONIGHT? ANY TWITTER LIST TONIGHT? Really need some thing to chill out with. Twitter list: twitter.com/GlamFansInfo/adamsacramentoNot sure about live stream yet. |
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Post by mehitabel on Jul 20, 2012 20:27:03 GMT -5
Doing something I know I shouldn't be doing: posting before reading the entire thread. But I'm tempted to jump in and I have no self restraint, lol, so sorry in advance. 1) About the review: I agree with a few others: "limp-wristed" is a slur. It doesn't matter if it was a positive review, and it doesn't matter if Adam was camping it up with the best of 'em on stage last night--using a word so firmly and traditionally rooted in negative and bigoted stereotyping of gays is offensive. Placing the word, as it was, in a sentence harping on his "caked on make-up" and "poof-y hair" (um, yeaaah) only makes it more blatant. I'd have no problem with a reviewer pointing out that Adam's sexuality contributed to his winning performance last night. This may win me scowls from some people here, but I'd be fine with a reviewer commenting that, in his campiness, Adam was bringing some traditionally-gay sass and charm to a typically mainstream stage. But as far as I'm concerned, using a slur is offensive, plain and simple. The only way you get a pass in my book is if you are gay yourself and are taking over offensive language for your own purposes--the rest of us don't have a clue, and have no right to that word. I was going to unleash some Old Testament wrath about this but as I kept reading I saw the always articulate MWP and Bridget had already taken it on - my truly heartfelt thanks to them and Nica and anyone else who actually 'gets it'. (And apologies to those I missed who took issue earlier - I just can't re-read - but thank you too.) This language is not okay, not a poor choice of words. Also, 'Hey, Adam actually was 'limp-wristed' - well, I'm not even going near that one. And, for the record, I don't even know what the hell 'politically correct' means since pretty much every time I see it being used it's as an excuse for someone to use language offensive to some group but who doesn't want to give any credibility to the offended person(s) feelings. Why does it matter? Well, (sigh) for so many damned reasons. This is hateful language - however cute or merely ill-advised you may find it - trust me on this one (despite what your reported gay (friend, hairdresser, cousin, etc.) may say. And the impact? Well, how about how a gay man or, more important, boy feels upon reading it? A recent study on homeless LGBT young people (I don't have it in front of me -- see GLAAD site or I'll be happy to provide a link) found a shocking percentage (around 40% I believe) of homeless, at-risk youth self identify as LGBT -- and the two dominant reasons they give for leaving home: fear of social rejection - esp by family and/or actually having been rejected - even kicked out of their homes. When I finished reading that sad report (as someone who once worked w/homeless young people yrs ago), I was shocked - I really thought the numbers would not be so high at this point, I thought about Adam (and others like Chris Colfer) and how he IS making a difference just being in middle America's awareness, speaking up, building bridges, and nurturing understanding. When a young person (or anyone really but older people build up a shell) reads this sort of degrading language directed at a successful person like Adam, it boosts fears that someone so successful and mainstream can be derided without the objection of even supposed 'allies' - because it's 'not that bad'. (BTW - Trans kids have the worst time of all so defending Adam by defending his 'alpha' masculinity kind of misses the point.) It's not okay just because s/he didn't use the word f*ggot - given the contempt it was implied. Doesn't matter if s/he is gay - lots of self-hate out there. Doesn't matter if you don't consider this homophobic or think we need to overlook it because it was an otherwise good review - it still uses the same terminology regularly used to demean gay men and set them apart as 'other' and 'lesser'. (I also think it's misogynistic as it's the use of supposed feminine characteristics to insult a man, but I'll leave that to you.) Sorry to be a downer - I'm sure most think I should lighten up. (Not likely to happen on this topic - sorry.) Please return to your regularly programming. But let me end by again saying thank you to those who did speak out (against the tide it seemed) - it made me feel much better. Just read that review - totally agree that it was beyond the pale. |
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