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Post by bridgeymah on Aug 29, 2012 16:05:54 GMT -5
Let's talk single-related stuff. The other day I asked why Call Me Maybe is so popular, but it seemed that not many glamberts are into it, so we haven't been able to figure out what kind of song resonates well with the general public. How about Gotye's Somebody that I Used to Know, or fun. We're Young? What are there in these songs that make many people buy, do you think? Which song on Trespassing has that kind of quality? The instant I heard Gotye's STIUTK I fell in love with it, and had it on repeat all week. I still listen to it a lot and never tire of it. I am not a musician, though I do play the piano, so I can't talk technically about the song. Why I think it is a smash is that it is so different from the other stuff on CHR that it pops out and draws you in. It is sophisticated and edgy and makes the listener feel cool for liking it. On Trespassing the song that has the most of this edgy, hip vibe is Shady. I think it would also pop out on CHR. Both the Fun and Gotye songs were featured on Glee (and in Fun's case a superbowl ad I think) before they had massive chart success - that is what gave them the exposure then people started buying. Wasn't mainstream radio for sure... I"ve said a couple of times I would rather hear Glee cover Trespassing (or any song on album really) than see Adam locked into AI (don't mean this as a signal to debate the relative merits of each option but if you really feel you must #carryon). |
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Post by holly on Aug 29, 2012 16:08:36 GMT -5
I have a feeling that Sauli was not delighted in the morning  . Hmm... Maybe I have forgotten a lot but I don't see him being upset about Adam tweeting him sleeping like an angel... Maybe he wasn't thrilled about the giving head tweet. |
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Post by melliemom on Aug 29, 2012 16:12:16 GMT -5
Interesting article in Rolling Stone, online, about how artists can make a living
in todays awful ,falling record sales market
Concerts ,but everyone is on the road these days
Merchandise ,Adam better have someone update his T shirts ,etc.
Getting your music played to openings and closings of TV
shows,etc.Music for advertisements
Clothing/shoe/perfume lines with your name.. and so forth
Nothing new.. but it sure sounds like you have to be creative to make
a living as a singer today.
Another reason for Idol Judgeship
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Post by adamfanem on Aug 29, 2012 16:16:06 GMT -5
i am just glad there were good fans that compiled what was said in real time. I hope all of these deletions do not indicate that we could lose something we really love about adam. I hope he does not censor himself (or allow someone else to do it for him) too much. It does appear he will do whatever it takes to get that "success" he has been striving for. Only have time to lurk lately but just wanted to say I was thinking this same thing after skimming the thread today. He really doesn't seem to be at the reality in society yet where he truly can walk that walk like I don't give a fuck... yet! I want him to succeed at whatever he is striving for and understand the self censor... but I too, hope the edgy part of Adam does not have to be pushed to the side. That is one my fears about Idol... But other than that I am meh about AI. Will watch if he is on, won't if he isn't since I have not watched in years anyway. OK, Hi all... carry on:-) |
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Post by evergreen on Aug 29, 2012 16:17:19 GMT -5
Interesting article in Rolling Stone about how artists can make a living in todays awful record sales days. Adam better have someone update his T shirts ,etc. Getting your music played to openings and closings of TV shows,etc. clothing/shoe/perfume lines with your name.. and so forth I can see a line of unisex leather with Skingraft someday, but I'm sure his music is #1 for now. |
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Post by belle on Aug 29, 2012 16:21:52 GMT -5
I find this interesting, although I am very sceptical of their assumption that all 'fake account followers' were bought - well, especially bought by a celebrity wanting to boost their follower count. I am sure that there are entrepreneurs that make spamming accounts to distribute ads and adlike info. Naturally they operate these accounts to follow people who, in turn, have a lot of followers. In that way, their ad message has more possibilities to be seen and shared with a lot of people. But I bet these accounts are paid by the advertiser, not by the celebrity followed. Unless we are talking about someone who lives on the fame alone without any actual substance who are in dire need of a big number of followers. I also have some doubts on measuring spam content, but yeah, same topics and repetitiveness could be easily detected. They need to use some key words that are determined not be directly related to the followed account, thus interpreted as spam. Hmmm, if the deciding factor is ony repetitiveness that deviates the figures too much I think. Hope this is not too OT, but I ran across more about this today. Buying Their Way to Twitter Fame www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/fashion/twitter-followers-for-sale.html?_r=4&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1345810035-hPtdwhoE1D2MaX4UUGwl9gThis article explains how it's done: The practice is surprisingly easy. A Google search for “buy Twitter followers” turns up dozens of Web sites like USocial.net, InterTwitter.com, and FanMeNow.com that sell Twitter followers by the thousands (and often Facebook likes and YouTube views). At BuyTwitterFollow.com, for example, users simply enter their Twitter handle and credit card number and, with a few clicks, see the ranks of their followers swell in three to four days.
Will Mitchell, the founder of Clear Presence Media, a marketing company outside Tampa, Fla., said that he has bought more than a million followers for his clients, which include musicians, start-ups and a well-known actress he declined to identify. “And it’s so cheap, too,” he said. In one instance, Mr. Mitchell said, he bought 250,000 for $2,500, or a penny each.According to this article, some 70% of the legions of people following Lady Gaga, and President Obama, are fake or inactive. Twitter has filed lawsuits against the spammers. Pretty enlightening. Could you please give the title of the article, and perhaps the section where it is filed under so that I could find it? The link you posted requires registering and after doing that I end up at the home page (feat. Louisiana, Ryan, Buchanan, severe diet and Citigroup among others). The same when trying again your link and logging in... ETA Oh, never mind, I found it. You had the title in there "Buying Their Way to Twitter Fame" and I found it archived as it was published Aug 22. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 16:24:14 GMT -5
Hmm... Maybe I have forgotten a lot but I don't see him being upset about Adam tweeting him sleeping like an angel... Maybe he wasn't thrilled about the giving head tweet. I doubt Sauli had anything to so with the deleted tweets. Adam deleted a lot more than just the "getting head" tweet. Looked like a more broad-based attempt to remove anything too controversial or revealing from his feed. I'm still thinking that the reason was more likely professional than personal.  But given that none of us actually know Adam or Sauli, it's all speculation anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 16:26:40 GMT -5
Interesting article in Rolling Stone, online, about how artists can make a living in todays awful ,falling record sales market Concerts ,but everyone is on the road these days Merchandise ,Adam better have someone update his T shirts ,etc. Getting your music played to openings and closings of TV shows,etc.Music for advertisements Clothing/shoe/perfume lines with your name.. and so forth Nothing new.. but it sure sounds like you have to be creative to make a living as a singer today. Another reason for Idol Judgeship Here is a link to the online version of the Rolling Stone article, in case anyone wants to read about all 9 options: www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/9-ways-musicians-actually-make-money-today-20120828 |
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Post by tigerlily on Aug 29, 2012 16:33:47 GMT -5
The instant I heard Gotye's STIUTK I fell in love with it, and had it on repeat all week. I still listen to it a lot and never tire of it. I am not a musician, though I do play the piano, so I can't talk technically about the song. Why I think it is a smash is that it is so different from the other stuff on CHR that it pops out and draws you in. It is sophisticated and edgy and makes the listener feel cool for liking it. On Trespassing the song that has the most of this edgy, hip vibe is Shady. I think it would also pop out on CHR. Both the Fun and Gotye songs were featured on Glee (and in Fun's case a Superbowl ad I think) before they had massive chart success - that is what gave them the exposure then people started buying. Wasn't mainstream radio for sure... I"ve said a couple of times I would rather hear Glee cover Trespassing (or any song on album really) than see Adam locked into AI (don't mean this as a signal to debate the relative merits of each option but if you really feel you must #carryon). Glee has covered hundreds of songs and the overwhelming majority of them do not go on to become hits of any kind, nor does it break new songs onto the charts for any amount of time to matter. Mainstream radio picked up on the Gotye song from its iTunes placement and the fact that it was #1 on Alt. Rock stations- it had nothing to do with Glee. We Are Young was also a big hit on Alt. Rock and crossed over from there. We are Young is the only "new song" by an unknown artist to be performed on Glee. The show gave a nice sized bump to the Fun song, but not enough to matter for long. The BIG factor was the Superbowl commercial. After that, the song stayed at #1 or in the top 3 on iTunes for weeks, so radio had to pay attention to it. By the time Glee did STIYTK, it was already a big hit and high on iTunes. The week Glee covered it, P2 performed it in a duet on Idol and Gotye was on SNL. It was the perfect storm! The long term benefits of Adam being on TV for 4-6 hours a week on the #1 rated show in the US far outweighs a solitary performance by a group of kids on a show that covers hundreds of songs a year. |
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