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Post by wal on Oct 29, 2012 11:39:54 GMT -5
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Post by maddie509 on Oct 29, 2012 11:43:42 GMT -5
I don't think the quote is an indicator of anything. I think it is being grossly taken out of context. He just seems to be making an off the hand comment; "Yeah, it was great to work with her before, I'm up for it again! Peeps, get to askin' for it, if you want to see it happen!" Seems to be a fairly innocuous statement, actually. Honestly, I see no problems between Adam and RCA at the moment. They extended a great deal of trust in him by giving him executive producer on this album. And even though the album isn't performing up to FYE, they still seem intent to stand behind him for now. And, as PLL showed, the album can appeal to those outside the fan base when given exposure. Even if the songs didn't sell 100's of thousands, the bump was significant, and proves he will sell if exposed. I don't believe it too out of line for fans to be befuddled by RCA's choices sometimes, afterall, we're on the outside looking in, with the blinds down and the mute button on. Fans can only guess the what's or why's. I also don't blame RCA for being cautious. Audiences are fickle, and it's hard to say what will or won't grab their attention. And let's face it, they're quick to forget as well. It's sure to be frustrating for fans (and artists alike), but it is what it is. ^^^^^^^ THIS!! Dude, you got to post more often!  |
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Oct 29, 2012 12:04:53 GMT -5
I don't think the quote is an indicator of anything. I think it is being grossly taken out of context. He just seems to be making an off the hand comment; "Yeah, it was great to work with her before, I'm up for it again! Peeps, get to askin' for it, if you want to see it happen!" Seems to be a fairly innocuous statement, actually. Honestly, I see no problems between Adam and RCA at the moment. They extended a great deal of trust in him by giving him executive producer on this album. And even though the album isn't performing up to FYE, they still seem intent to stand behind him for now. And, as PLL showed, the album can appeal to those outside the fan base when given exposure. Even if the songs didn't sell 100's of thousands, the bump was significant, and proves he will sell if exposed. I don't believe it too out of line for fans to be befuddled by RCA's choices sometimes, afterall, we're on the outside looking in, with the blinds down and the mute button on. Fans can only guess the what's or why's. I also don't blame RCA for being cautious. Audiences are fickle, and it's hard to say what will or won't grab their attention. And let's face it, they're quick to forget as well. It's sure to be frustrating for fans (and artists alike), but it is what it is. ^^^^^^^ THIS!! Dude, you got to post more often! Yes - please do.  |
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Post by wal on Oct 29, 2012 12:13:42 GMT -5
Brian London @brianlondon
Dallas!
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Post by wal on Oct 29, 2012 12:16:19 GMT -5
The Trevor Project @trevorproject
Daniel Radcliffe @darrencriss @adamlambert @theellenshow @diannaagron RT @greatnonprofits Who is your favorite celeb who gives back?
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Post by wal on Oct 29, 2012 12:22:02 GMT -5
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Post by wal on Oct 29, 2012 12:35:41 GMT -5
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Post by nica575 on Oct 29, 2012 12:57:28 GMT -5
I also think, when looking at the choices RCA has made, it is good to keep in mind that we don't know what they were hearing behind the scenes. We don't know what they were being told by PDs, and we don't really know just how hard radio might have been pushing back. true... but we know the results of their work... I don't think the quote is an indicator of anything. I think it is being grossly taken out of context. He just seems to be making an off the hand comment; "Yeah, it was great to work with her before, I'm up for it again! Peeps, get to askin' for it, if you want to see it happen!" Seems to be a fairly innocuous statement, actually. Honestly, I see no problems between Adam and RCA at the moment. They extended a great deal of trust in him by giving him executive producer on this album. And even though the album isn't performing up to FYE, they still seem intent to stand behind him for now. And, as PLL showed, the album can appeal to those outside the fan base when given exposure. Even if the songs didn't sell 100's of thousands, the bump was significant, and proves he will sell if exposed. I don't believe it too out of line for fans to be befuddled by RCA's choices sometimes, afterall, we're on the outside looking in, with the blinds down and the mute button on. Fans can only guess the what's or why's. I also don't blame RCA for being cautious. Audiences are fickle, and it's hard to say what will or won't grab their attention. And let's face it, they're quick to forget as well. It's sure to be frustrating for fans (and artists alike), but it is what it is. yes, hermeticallysealed , they trusted Adam to be an exec prod, and he delivered a superb album. Then they took over and selected the exciting BTIKM... so Adam dressed himself in earth tones, colored his nails in pukie dark olive and declared his newfound "plainness" to the adoring audiences of the endless radio stations...well, he managed to spice this part of the project by pulling the impossible out of his creativity hat and filming a MV masterpiece... then RCA came up with the glorious addition of the genius creation by one superstar, about (per Adam) "not closing your eyes". Ok... Adam, got on that train, delivered an enthusiastic performances when those were possible and another interesting but (lets be honest) cheap looking MV. No one noticed.... then the 3rd single was bravely announced... the terrifying one...in fact so terrifying that they decided to close their eyes in fear and see if it flies on its own...and here we are...trying to blow some wind behind the best single from BOTH albums so that it would fly. |
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Post by hermeticallysealed on Oct 29, 2012 13:09:43 GMT -5
This discussion is now closed. Thanks.
With all due respect, we don't know who decided what or why. It's just guess work of fans, and we all see what we want to short of actual facts. I have no doubt they chose the singles, but lets be realistic. How many artists(especially new ones) get to pick their singles? I venture that not many. We have no clue which songs were finished first, or last. We have ideas, but those don't tell us anything real.
In the end, fans can conjure up any scenario we wish, but short of knowledge on what is actually being discussed, or why, it's pure speculation and nothing more. And in the end, what good comes from worrying about it? All that we truly can do is support the artists' efforts, within reason and hope for the best.
ETA: I might also point out, that regardless of how things may look on the outside, RCA (nor any company who wishes to be successful) can afford to screw around when millions are on the line. It seems very foolish to me to think that they didn't put thought into Adam's roll out. Especially with the risk they already were taking with having him produce. We simply cannot know what was going on in the background. We don't know what complications happened, we don't know what prevented what. We can only shrug our shoulders and wonder "WTH?"
I know that in my own job, there are times when the choices I have to make may seem utterly bizarre, or counter intuitive to clients. they don't always work out the way I, or they want, but it's not because I am incompetent, or that they know better than I how to do my job. Pardon my Anglo, but "Shit Happens." It's not a great explanation, but rarely when something goes wrong is there a good one. Some times, things just fall apart despite your best efforts. You just pick yourself back up and move on.
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Post by scorpio on Oct 29, 2012 13:25:39 GMT -5
With all due respect, we don't know who decided what or why. It's just guess work of fans, and we all see what we want to short of actual facts. I have no doubt they chose the singles, but lets be realistic. How many artists(especially new ones) get to pick their singles? I venture that not many. We have no clue which songs were finished first, or last. We have ideas, but those don't tell us anything real. In the end, fans can conjure up any scenario we wish, but short of knowledge on what is actually being discussed, or why, it's pure speculation and nothing more. And in the end, what good comes from worrying about it? All that we truly can do is support the artists' efforts, within reason and hope for the best. ETA: I might also point out, that regardless of how things may look on the outside, RCA (nor any company who wishes to be successful) can afford to screw around when millions are on the line. It seems very foolish to me to think that they didn't put thought into Adam's roll out. Especially with the risk they already were taking with having him produce. We simply cannot know what was going on in the background. We don't know what complications happened, we don't know what prevented what. We can only shrug our shoulders and wonder "WTH?" I know that in my own job, there are times when the choices I have to make may seem utterly bizarre, or counter intuitive to clients. they don't always work out the way I, or they want, but it's not because I am incompetent, or that they know better than I how to do my job. Pardon my Anglo, but "Shit Happens." It's not a explanation, but rarely when something goes wrong is there a good one. Some times, things just fall apart despite your best efforts. You just pick yourself back up and move on. The voice of reason...  |
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