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Post by tinafea on Dec 12, 2012 0:04:30 GMT -5
Sometimes life can just turn in an instant. I was at work today and sneaking peaks at the VH-1 interview and then just thinking how much fun it's been this week with the NYC concert and promos. Then I get a call from my sis who was Christmas Town Center in Portland on her day off for some Christmas shopping. She had just left the food court and was heading toward her car when the sound of people screaming and running out of the mall was happening barely 10 minutes later. 3 people were randomly killed, including the shooter. The whole mall was locked down and people who were hiding for hours are finally getting to leave. She was one of the lucky ones. Good heavens, thank god she was outta there! I've been watching the whole thing on CNN, too. :-/ I was at Clackamas Town Center yesterday. I am still feeling unsettled. |
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Post by adamme on Dec 12, 2012 0:05:15 GMT -5
<<<<<< I am taking this one as my new AVI, IF anyone already has it let me know. I love the first one but's it's too dark cannot see his beautiful face in small avi size pict :-/ Thanks Aleksandra ;D  [/url
Does this help? I photoshopped it.
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Post by adamme on Dec 12, 2012 0:08:51 GMT -5
Sometimes life can just turn in an instant. I was at work today and sneaking peaks at the VH-1 interview and then just thinking how much fun it's been this week with the NYC concert and promos. Then I get a call from my sis who was Christmas Town Center in Portland on her day off for some Christmas shopping. She had just left the food court and was heading toward her car when the sound of people screaming and running out of the mall was happening barely 10 minutes later. 3 people were randomly killed, including the shooter. The whole mall was locked down and people who were hiding for hours are finally getting to leave. She was one of the lucky ones. OMG .. just few minutes that's the different. So glad your sister's left the mall prior to shooting. I just read that shooting this morning online and said to myself, "What's wrong with this people?" :dunno: |
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Post by Q3 on Dec 12, 2012 0:18:02 GMT -5
Good heavens, thank god she was outta there! I've been watching the whole thing on CNN, too. :-/ I was at Clackamas Town Center yesterday. I am still feeling unsettled. YIPES!! Just reading that makes me shiver a bit! So glad you are safe. |
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Post by murly on Dec 12, 2012 0:19:45 GMT -5
Does Adam make you guys philosophical too? Here's what I've been thinking about today (apologies, haven't read the thread much): In that radio interview with the Christmas caroles, it was first ASSUMED he was Christian and celebrated Christmas. Then they shrugged off the fact that he was Jewish and had him play anyway, even after it became very obvious this wasn't his thing. This has happened on many interviews. They assume, he politely sets them straight, they try to assimilate him anyway. Just like in society. Christmas bombards us everywhere we go. (But at least it was nice for a change to have it finally occur to ask him about his Hanukkah celebrations as follow up.) I find myself skeptical about him, a music guy, not know the words better. These songs are everywhere, the same ones every year, in every store etc. I wonder if he tried to downplay his knowledge to get his point across. Otherwise I'd say he's had to put in effort to not pay attention to these songs. Either way, I'd say it says something. There is a movement here against the wording "happy holidays" for "merry christmas". It's a rebelion against the politically correct forces that have made them take the reason out of the season with these words and some, by gosh, want to reclaim what is right. Why? Why can't we be inclusionary? Happy holidays includes Christmas so what's wrong? Do you not wish the best to those that celebrate Hanukkah or whatever else? Does being proud of your faith exclude you from recognizing the value of others? How ego and ethnocentric people can be. It must really get to Adam, and other Jews, to have others beliefs as in-your-face as they can get, and have his beliefs so minimized. I celebrate Chistmas. But i am thinking tonight of ways to be more sensitive to others- meanwhile others are trying to be less sensitive. That doesn't seem so Christian to me....
I had the feeling--and of course it could have been my imagination--that he was a little irritated with them for the very reasons you brought up, and was just pretending not to know the words.
I've never understood the outcry from those who think "Happy Holidays" means a "war on Christmas." First of all, the word "holiday" comes from "holy day" so it has a religious origin. Secondly, even if you're so narrow-minded that you want to exclude anyone who isn't Christian, what about New Year's Eve and New Year's Day? I've always assumed that anyone who wished me "happy holidays" was referring to all the holidays that occur at this time of year.
I'm an atheist but have always celebrated Christmas as a secular holiday; many of the traditions have pagan origins. Someone asked me once why I still call it Christmas, and I pointed out to her that she doesn't believe in Thor but she still calls the fourth day of the work week Thursday. |
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Post by cassie on Dec 12, 2012 0:24:30 GMT -5
I don't think it is odd at all that Adam doesn't know the words to Christmas carols. He would never have sung them around the tree with his family, or gone caroling. There wouldn't have been Christmas music playing during the Christmas season at home. He wouldn't tune into the radio station playing Christmas music. Most schools, for the last twenty years or more have not had Christmas music programs. Holiday programs, perhaps. But where I taught and where my sister taught they were not allowed to teach any religious carols. "Here comes Santa Claus" was okay, but "We Three Kings" or even "Silent Night" were not. Yes, Adam couldn't avoid Christmas carols being played in the stores and malls, but they usually are not intrusive enough to pick out lyrics. Plus, we know our boy has trouble remembering lyrics. Don't know if he got the lyrics to "WWRY" correct more than once or twice, and he sang the song twice during each Queenbert show. Heck, he screws up lyrics HE wrote.
It's actually an example of how something can be absolutely ubiquitous in one culture and minimal in another. Plus, while Adam is not religious about his Judaism, I get the sense he is proud of it. And resistant toward playing along with the Christian theme. I recall a radio station in the UK asking him to do a promo saying "Merry Christmas." Adam recorded the promo saying "Happy Holidays." The DJ corrected him and asked him to redo the spot, and he sweetly but firmly refused, saying "I'm Jewish." In light of that, I think he was gracious to go along with the Christmas carol game as much as he did.
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Post by houselady on Dec 12, 2012 0:31:41 GMT -5
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Post by nica575 on Dec 12, 2012 0:40:48 GMT -5
I don't think it is odd at all that Adam doesn't know the words to Christmas carols. He would never have sung them around the tree with his family, or gone caroling. There wouldn't have been Christmas music playing during the Christmas season at home. He wouldn't tune into the radio station playing Christmas music. Most schools, for the last twenty years or more have not had Christmas music programs. Holiday programs, perhaps. But where I taught and where my sister taught they were not allowed to teach any religious carols. "Here comes Santa Claus" was okay, but "We Three Kings" or even "Silent Night" were not. Yes, Adam couldn't avoid Christmas carols being played in the stores and malls, but they usually are not intrusive enough to pick out lyrics. Plus, we know our boy has trouble remembering lyrics. Don't know if he got the lyrics to "WWRY" correct more than once or twice, and he sang the song twice during each Queenbert show. Heck, he screws up lyrics HE wrote. It's actually an example of how something can be absolutely ubiquitous in one culture and minimal in another. Plus, while Adam is not religious about his Judaism, I get the sense he is proud of it. And resistant toward playing along with the Christian theme. I recall a radio station in the UK asking him to do a promo saying "Merry Christmas." Adam recorded the promo saying "Happy Holidays." The DJ corrected him and asked him to redo the spot, and he sweetly but firmly refused, saying "I'm Jewish." In light of that, I think he was gracious to go along with the Christmas carol game as much as he did. I agree - one can live in the USA their whole life and not know any of the XMAS songs... I don't, my kids don't, I doubt they would know a melody...I am hard pressed to name one, let alone know the words... Adam handled the situation the best he could IMO, he did not refuse, he tried to come up with some words, he offered to sing the Dreidel song - which was rudely ignored... The "war on Xmas" meme is coming out of FOX News &Co - enough said. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2012 1:08:08 GMT -5
It only takes a minute to get some basic info on celebs and if they had done two minutes of research they would have known that Adam was Jewish. Kind of ignorant just to make assumptions. We used to have a Christmas tree and a Menorah in our house until we got a dog and my husbands candles scorched my new kitchen cabinets... Point is we celebrated our different cultures rather than trying to downplay them out of some sort of correctness. If they had bothered to find out about Adam they may have had an interesting time, learned something new and shown him respect.
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Post by restless on Dec 12, 2012 1:37:41 GMT -5
I told my man about the Christmas song game with Adam and he said he wouldn't know the lyrics to Christmas songs. I tested him and sure enough he was clueless. And he was a freakin' Lutheran alter boy. So, Cassie, I agree with you, it is not a surprise that Adam did not know the songs. I actually found the whole exchange hilarious. As usual, Adam handled it all so brilliantly!
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