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Post by cheriemelissa on Feb 3, 2013 19:26:23 GMT -5
Now I'm upset, and I don't understand anymore what I did wrong - for me it's not story from Bible, it's things I've learned in school when we were talking about interpretations in poetry. To this day I didn't know one person who didn't know meaning behind Tower of Bable and I was only suprised not judgemental (sorry my english is stil rough, I'm not that clear as I want to be sometimes). Talking about jumping to conclusions. So thanks for making me feel like some kind of bad person. Don't feel bad, sometimes some of us don't express ourselves very well and we do know English. Your opinion is as welcome as anyone's.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 19:27:00 GMT -5
Hey, anyone want to Babel for awhile??? Aleks..I know you do.. Oh, I'm a Babel expert. You just leave babeling to me, and I'll babel you senseless... the song is proving its point as we speak, so Imma go with the ' iceberg just the tip' part xxx leave the communication breakdown to the sober
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Post by bobo on Feb 3, 2013 19:27:45 GMT -5
Sorry, but no way in Hell is Adam watching the Super Bowl! Why aren't the Ninjas trying to figure out where that photo was taken? GET TO WORK, Ninjas!! Just a note on the reviewer that said the "tower of Babel" lyrics were trite. He was a part time preacher (ya, perfect person to pick for reviewing Adam, right?!) so I am sure he knew what they meant! You maybe right (as usually) . She tweeted this 3 hours ago: Kelly Osbourne @MissKellyO Just ran 3miles and now its time to get ready for my #SuperBowl party with @SimonHuck!!! Simon I can wait to see your face! I don't know if Simon Huck is gay, but that's what they speculate on google.
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Post by rihannsu on Feb 3, 2013 19:30:07 GMT -5
It's one thing to say one doesn't get a lyric but quite another to dismiss it as superficial without any attempt to determine otherwise. Many a so called cheesy, trite pop song can actually be quite deep when examined thoroughly enough. One of the brilliant things about pop music is that often it is quite subtle so those wishing nothing more than shallow can be quite happy and those who want more depth have only to look for it. Obviously I'm not talking about songs that are basically one phrase repeated interminably.
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Post by pi on Feb 3, 2013 19:30:15 GMT -5
Now I'm upset, and I don't understand anymore what I did wrong - for me it's not story from Bible, it's things I've learned in school when we were talking about interpretations in poetry. To this day I didn't know one person who didn't know meaning behind Tower of Bable and I was only suprised not judgemental (sorry my english is stil rough, I'm not that clear as I want to be sometimes). Talking about jumping to conclusions. So thanks for making me feel like some kind of bad person. I didn't know about it from the Bible either, but understood the reference. It was referenced in the 2006 movie 'Babel'. Here's what the IMBd site had to say about the reference and meaning of the title.. The title refers to the story of the Tower of Babel in the Biblical Book of Genesis. In the story, the people of the world are all united and speak a common language. They begin to build a tower to reach the heavens and become godlike themselves. God, seeing this, decides to confuse the language of the people and destroy the tower. When the people could no longer understand each other they gave up work on the tower and spread out to different parts of the world. It also refers to the connections -or lack thereof- that come through the use of language. In each storyline the characters struggle with surviving and self-identification based on misunderstanding through a language barrier. This film ultimately looks at the fact that we are all intimately connected on a life-and-death level, yet the trivialities of langauge and misunderstandings break us apart.
Also, the word 'babel' means a confused noise created by a number of voices, which is essentially what the story of the movie is
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Post by lilly on Feb 3, 2013 19:31:28 GMT -5
Now I'm upset, and I don't understand anymore what I did wrong - for me it's not story from Bible, it's things I've learned in school when we were talking about interpretations in poetry. To this day I didn't know one person who didn't know meaning behind Tower of Bable and I was only suprised not judgemental (sorry my english is stil rough, I'm not that clear as I want to be sometimes). Talking about jumping to conclusions. So thanks for making me feel like some kind of bad person. och i diddna mean it that way ,i wouldnae ever want to make anybody feel bad ,just some o us are ne quite as edukated as some o ye clever fowk fuck ave got masel into anither mess (shid keep ma gob shut ) weer the fucks burritto with that bottle?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 19:32:09 GMT -5
Hey, anyone want to Babel for awhile??? Aleks..I know you do.. Oh, I'm a Babel expert. You just leave babeling to me, and I'll babel you senseless... the song is proving its point as we speak, so Imma go with the ' iceberg just the tip' part xxx leave the communication breakdown to the sober Where's the wine? Much better...you may proceed Babeling now...
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Post by ayleim on Feb 3, 2013 19:34:30 GMT -5
Now I'm upset, and I don't understand anymore what I did wrong - for me it's not story from Bible, it's things I've learned in school when we were talking about interpretations in poetry. To this day I didn't know one person who didn't know meaning behind Tower of Bable and I was only suprised not judgemental (sorry my english is stil rough, I'm not that clear as I want to be sometimes). Talking about jumping to conclusions. So thanks for making me feel like some kind of bad person. nonchallance, I wasn't trying to make you feel upset! Okay, I went back to find this quote from SusieFierce back on page 4 " One I particularly loved was when he said, "Tower of Babel falling down again" was a superficial lyric,....." back at the bottom paragraph. I guess I should have quoted that post instead of yours, but I just couldn't find it at the time, and your post just brought up the "superficial" thing again so I just quoted it.
I know nothing about the Bible, and I did not understand the reference at all either. I was just commenting that it's rather odd for a critic (not a general consumer like us, dare I say?) to assume that something he doesn't understand is superficial, and use it as one of the arguments as to why he doesn't like the song. Also commenting on how if there's something we don't understand, say, in the newspapers, or even in a novel, I don't think our first assumption is that it's superficial or superfluous and we might actually look it up.... but maybe not so in a pop song?
Edit : Boy, I'm really slow at this. rihannsu said everything in her one short post way up on the page already!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 19:37:16 GMT -5
och i diddna mean it that way ,i wouldnae ever want to make anybody feel bad ,just some o us are ne quite as edukated as some o ye clever fowk fuck ave got masel into anither mess (shid keep ma gob shut ) weer the fucks burritto with that bottle? Lilly..come join Aleks and me...I got an extra bottle right here.. You can Babel away and not worry about any Broken English. Seems like a lot of that is going around today. Cheers!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 19:38:43 GMT -5
Oh, I'm a Babel expert. You just leave babeling to me, and I'll babel you senseless... the song is proving its point as we speak, so Imma go with the ' iceberg just the tip' part xxx leave the communication breakdown to the sober Where's the wine? Much better...you may proceed Babeling now... But don't get too drunk, we gotta practice this shit:
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