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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 22:16:53 GMT -5
I hate to say this. But I am really confused by this new version. After heard it sung twice... I've been not able to 'get it' so far... but the Tokyo one is better than the Seoul one Best FYE live performance IMO is still the iheartradio version. hard to beat that one as far as energies, vocals and high notes are concerned IMHO,FYE has a WELCOME to the Cabaret feeling to me,dissonance from the band ,not playing along with Adam.Welcome to my show some of it not pretty, some shadowy,dark.. Might make you uncomfortable,edgy androgynous. Just a guess.. I've listened to FYE a couple of times now - agree it has more of that basement/subterranean feel - kind of like the darker side of New Orleans. I'm liking it. But I love to hear his change-ups. I like how he gets bored with his own stuff and feels the need to "work" on it. |
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Post by wal on Feb 19, 2013 22:35:17 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Feb 19, 2013 22:52:00 GMT -5
I love him!  Love Adam, always! Makes me wonder whether he had a reason not to attend the Clive Davis Pre Grammy party. Clive and Kelly have been feuding for years. These are the same stories he was been spinning for years. I think Adam had a reason to skip Clive's part-- it was not important for him to be there. ETA: But I love his support of Kelly with that Tweet.  |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Feb 19, 2013 22:53:07 GMT -5
Dancey Haven't had time to listen yet, so don't know if one's better than the other. I think they may have come from the same source Adamrocks I noticed it said MP4, but when you download it it reads as a MP3. It's all one file, straight thru. Maybe Danceygeorgia could explain how MP3s and 4s work. All I know is I think M4a files sound best to me on a CD.....but I don't understand how it all works. There are different quality levels for both MP3s and MP4s. Some MP3 are relatively low quality to compress the file size and create a smaller file. Other MP3 are very high quality. This is from a few sites. MP3 is Audio MP4 is Audio,video,text. MP3 is an audio-specific format. The compression removes certain parts of sound that are outside the normal human hearing range so cannot be heard by the listener. It provides a representation of pulse-code modulation — encoded audio in much less space than straightforward methods, by using psychoacoustic models to discard components less audible to human hearing, and recording the remaining information in an efficient manner. Similar principles are used by JPEG, an image compression format. MP4 It is most commonly used to store digital audio and digital video streams, especially those defined by MPEG, but can also be used to store other data such as subtitles and still images. Like most modern container formats, MPEG-4 Part 14 allows streaming over the Internet. The official filename extension for MPEG-4 Part 14 files is .mp4, thus the container format is often referred to simply as MP4. More about MP3 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3More about MP4 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4Scroll is your friend if you don't want to read about technical details! Audio file formats is a complex subject. Hopefully I kept it simple enough. MP4 (Mpeg-4) is what is called a "container" format used heavily in internet streaming. Other examples of container formats are TS and MTS which are used in broadcasting. Files in container formats can contain "streams" of video data, audio data, and text data (e.g. subtitles for the video). It may even contain more than 1 audio stream. I have a London Day 3 video in TS format with 3 different audio streams to chose from. If I play the file in VLC Media Player, I can choose which of the 3 audio steams I want it to play with the video, just like one can choose a different language or subtitles on some videos. A MP4 file can contain audio in different formats, with AAC being the most commonly used but MP3 also possible. M4A audio files are just MP4 files with only an audio stream. It is still a container file in the same format as MP4. MP3 files are audio only files. They are not container files. The audio in the MP3 file is "compressed", i.e., the original audio was run through a software program that makes the file smaller by throwing out some of the audio data in frequency regions that humans don't hear very well. It is a "lossy" compression format, meaning that you cannot recover the original audio signal for the MP3 file since some of the information was thrown out. For music, the sound quality of MP3 depends on the "bit-rate" used in the compression algorithm. Most music download sites use a bit-rate of 256 kbps (kilo-bits per second) which is a good compromise between audio quality and file size. MP3 files with a bit-rate of 320 kbps are even better, but they are larger in size. AAC is an audio only file which uses a better "lossy" audio compression algorithm than MP3. So, if you compare a MP3 and AAC file with the same bit-rate, the AAC file will have a better audio quality. AAC is the default audio format for YouTube, iTunes, iPhone, iPad, etc. FLAC is another audio only file which uses a "lossless" audio compression. No audio information is lost during the compression so that the original audio can be reconstructed from the compressed file. FLAC files have better audio quality than either MP3 or AAC files. But FLAC files are much larger than MP3 or AAC files. Audiophiles prefer music in FLAC files. VLC Media Play can play FLAC files. Windows Media Player can also play FLAC files IF you also install a FLAC codec (the software that can read and interpret the compressed format). Instructions are in the How To thread of ATop. ALL OF THE LONDON QAL CONCERTS ARE AVAILABLE IN FLAC FORMAT, SO IT IS WELL WORTH BEING ABLE TO PLAY FLAC FILES ON YOUR COMPUTER USING HEADPHONE - YOU WILL LOVE, LOVE, LOVE IT!!! Some audio receivers can also play FLAC files on your stereo system. If you download a video from YouTube in SD (Standard Definition, 360p) format, the audio will have a bit rate around 96 kbps. However, if you download a video from YouTube in HD (High Definition, either 720p or 1080p) format, the audio will have a bit rate around 192 kbps. So, if you want to rip audio from a video you downloaded from YouTube, use the HD video if available. However, either way, the audio is of lower quality than what you typically download from itunes or Amazon. 192 kbps would be good quality for an audiobook but is medium-low quality for music. 96 kbps is really low quality for music. Back to the files in question. The person may have recorded the audio with a video camera, but could not hold the camera up to get video because of security. In this case, it may have originally been in a MP4 format which contained AAC or MP3 audio, most likely AAC which was later converted to MP3. The kai357 MP4 download contains AAC audio with a bit rate of 114 kbps and "nominal" (maximum) bit rate of 128 kbps. norbik131's MP3 download of Japan Day 1 is in 128 kbps. My guess is that the kai357 download may have a bit better audio quality than the norbik131 download. There is also a MP3 download from Sccorpiobert which is in 256 kbps. This is likely better quality than the other 2 formats, but that is difficult to determine without knowing how the person obtained/converted the audio. This audio is supposed to fit on a CD but is one big file. Any questions? |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Feb 19, 2013 23:10:55 GMT -5
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Post by adamrocks on Feb 19, 2013 23:13:31 GMT -5
I just got back here and saw the posts about mp3/mp4 downloads. Thanks but I am not very good with all that tech stuff. My question is for some reason some of my mp3 downloads that I have go 'automatically to iTunes ' just sit in a file there that says 'not added' and I can't figure out how to get them into iTunes from this file so I can burn a CD. I really want a CD for each of these concerts. I was able to download for all the Adam/Queen concerts but I'm having trouble now. :-/
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Post by bamafan on Feb 19, 2013 23:14:28 GMT -5
Thanks danceygeorgia for the info. I generally understand it. Bottom line, I just want the best sound available. I only listen to music on the computer with good headphones or on a CD. For my purposes, the M4a downloads sound better. But I understand lots of people want the MP3s for their various devices. The M4a of Theaterian from Seoul sounds wonderful on a CD in my car. To me, the sound on both Norbik and scorpioberts downloads doesn't sound as good as the sound on the youtube video of Stay/Underneath, which I downloaded in HD720. I need to learn how to rip the sound, I suppose. I understand that we don't have the whole concert available in HD on youtube...only those 4 songs, so we're at the mercy of whoever recorded the audio of the whole concert.
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Post by gingerpf on Feb 19, 2013 23:14:48 GMT -5
dancygeorgia - Can I just say how much I LOVE you?  Your tech explanations are always so great. THANK YOU so much for taking the time to post all the these details! I'm listening to the MP4 of the Tokyo Day 1 file right now & please don't throw anything at me, but I don't think the audio is all that good, esp. when compared to the Seoul downloads of Stay. And after downloading the QAL files in FLAC format, I agree that FLAC is the way to go. It's superb. Apparently it takes some hi-tech equipment to record FLAC, but hey, maybe some of the Tokyo Glamberts can do it!
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Post by gingerpf on Feb 19, 2013 23:19:21 GMT -5
I just got back here and saw the posts about mp3/mp4 downloads. Thanks but I am not very good with all that tech stuff. My question is for some reason some of my mp3 downloads that I have go 'automatically to iTunes ' just sit in a file there that says 'not added' and I can't figure out how to get them into iTunes from this file so I can burn a CD. I really want a CD for each of these concerts. I was able to download for all the Adam/Queen concerts but I'm having trouble now. :-/ This works for me - I open my download folder & then open my itunes and physically grab the MP3 file from the download folder & drag it into my itunes music library. ETA - I just re-read your post & I think I missed a step. When you download the file, you need to click the button to "save the file" - not the one that says "open automatically in itunes". Once the file is saved in your download folder, you can drag it into itunes. |
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Post by adamrocks on Feb 19, 2013 23:25:18 GMT -5
This works for me - I open my download folder & then open my itunes and physically grab the MP3 file from the download folder & drag it into my itunes music library. thanks for the information...I'll try that and see if I can get them over! ETA: I just saw your ETA. I do click SAVE AS and then I click Automatically add to iTunes and then the mp3's would show in my Songs. It's always work but not lately. |
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