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Post by melliemom on Mar 20, 2013 18:35:07 GMT -5
In addition, big hugs and a kiss to JanuarySnow Thank you, aleksandra! I so admire you, I was a single mom of three teenagers for about 6 years,until DH came a long.. I also had 2-3 jobs...not easy.. major HUGS to you.
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Post by smokeyvera on Mar 20, 2013 18:36:25 GMT -5
Hey bb! Also not angsting, but I am intellectually curious: Based on the current economic situation of Russia, in your opinion what *would* have been a price point that would make the concert more reachable for "regular" people? I know such a price point might simply be to low to support an American artist's traveling costs, this is just a purely academic query. Even with my level of adoration and stanning, I simply couldn't invest "several months pay" into a concert ticket! If one assumes a median U.S. household income of $50,054 (US Census/2011), two months income = $ 8,300! Even my London jaunt didn't cost nearly that much. If I had to choose between Adam and [for example] a used car or 4 equivant months of rent or six months of childcare...gah. ;-| :-/ :-[ Yes, I'd like to know this, too!! What would the Kiev/Moscow prices be in American dollars? HOPPERS!!!! I addressed this the other day in a post and in Kiev, Ukraine for example with the exchange rate of hryvnas to dollars we were looking (actually it is 4 hryvnas per dollar, not 5 as I quoted), tickets would be $100 to $500. Based upon my experience of living in Ukraine twice, most professionals make in the vicinity of a $100 to $150 per month in many of the smaller cities, but in the larger cities they do make more, but not of the magnitude to afford these price tickets. There have been a number of entrepeneurs that are doing well, but your average person would be below the poverty level in the US. But it is also less costly to live there. You can get bread for 25 cents a loaf. For those who can afford these tickets, they are the upper crust financially of society. In Russia, you have a certain segment doing well, and many more who barely make it. I remember when we were in Lviv, the circus was in town and we took a family to the circus, the tickets were $5 each, and she was so grateful. She was a college professor, and this ticket were beyond their reach. So I guess it's all relative, and we cannot compare our standards in the US to those over in these countries. Even Aleks said, we have no concept of what people live like over there, as money resources are limited for many.
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Post by adamrocks on Mar 20, 2013 18:36:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2013 18:41:23 GMT -5
Ok, concerning ticket price, I can tell from my experience and my friends, but - an average income/fee/wage, don't know how describe it better, for us is some kind of a myth. For once it depends on the type of job you do, your education, the potential of the company you're working for, etc, etc, etc. On the other side it depends on how much you have to spend on your everyday living, how many people in your family, etc. For example, as a single mom now I have to work two-three jobs to afford not only every day living, but out of school activity for my kid and such, and still I don't have enough income to save for future. For me fan-zone tickets were a bit of a stretch, it costed me as much as my monthly communal fee. For school kids it might be as pricey (but it depends on their parents income). And for out-of-city fans the price is even higher, because they have to pay for train/plane/bus tickets to get there and so on. So it's very difficult to say that the tickets are over-priced or not. Actually, from my point of view most of the tickets are overpriced now, but it's only because of my situation. I think the same stays for Ukraine and Belarus. Damn! Now I feel sad all over again about you missing the concert :(
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2013 18:42:27 GMT -5
fantastic sound from the ustream. Better than a lot of the YT vids we get from concerts. His voice sounds soooooo good. I don't know if he was hurrying thru the show as much as being very cautious. Adam has said many times that he is an entertainer, not a politician or a spokesperson for a movement. That he likes to push buttons, but, ultimately, he just wants people to enjoy themselves and the music. There's a time and a place for everything. He sang OOL and Shady, his two reputedly "gay" songs. And ended with his mission statement, Trespassing. He gave the fans another great performance. There were something like 10,000 folks who tuned into the stream. It's all good. I do expect that he is eager to move on to Helsinki, for more than one reason. Can the girl who streamed this show go there as well, please??? If Adam had some sort of political problem in St Petersburg, do you think he'd ever tell us? Didn't someone mention in yesterday's thread that people who support certain lifestyles could also be held accountable? I'm thinking that certain songs were left unsung so that everyone could enjoy the music and celebrate the gathering and not be concerned with any political ramifications. I think Adam doesn't particularly care about such things but he does love his fans and extended them a creative courtesy. Of course, what do I know......he may have just been in a hurry to get on that darn plane and be off to Finland!!! YAY!!!
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Post by adamrocks on Mar 20, 2013 18:44:12 GMT -5
Paris Glambert @Paris_the_Great <small class="time"> 2m </small> Yes and really don't put us Russians down! It's their games and we just came and enjoyed the show!
I love this tweet. It is all about Adam and his Fans...not the games politicians play.
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Post by pi on Mar 20, 2013 18:44:31 GMT -5
Woah! I wonder if Adam and his team knew about this..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2013 18:45:23 GMT -5
HSM, no I wouldn't let my kids go to something with this warning. It's easy to say it was probably nothing or just a government ploy. But who are we to assume we know anything? The US State Dept monitors threats and puts out warnings across the globe. They felt it was worthy to pass on the information. It could have been nothing but it could have been something terrible too. I may have gone to make a stand but I would not trust my child to be vigilant or let them risk their safety, having been warned by those who know more than me.
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Post by 4EverAdam on Mar 20, 2013 18:46:17 GMT -5
Amazing! - Thank You JanuarySnow
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2013 18:46:23 GMT -5
Yes, the State Department would have informed Adam and his management of the threat. That's their job.
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