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Post by VoiceFan53 on Jul 24, 2013 19:33:39 GMT -5
Just a thought David Bowie's real name is David Robert Jones could it be a hint to him singing under pressure at I Heart concert although don't know what the E W would mean? I like your guess. Reverse EW to WE and you get ME (upside down W). David and Adam singing together. |
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Post by Q3 on Jul 24, 2013 19:43:54 GMT -5
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Post by 4Ms on Jul 24, 2013 19:45:39 GMT -5
2011-11-07 Advocate Out 100
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Post by Craazyforadam on Jul 24, 2013 19:46:27 GMT -5
First of all a big TY to 4Msrymn for again earning proving worthy of her title as master archivist and identifying the picture location and time. (89.5 Big FM Radio Stuttgart Germany). Thank you so much. Now, admittedly, to me, this did not send any new ideas about clues, unfortunately.
Regarding Russia:
I have a tough time understanding why
1)so many countries, including the US, remain officially so silent about this on a political level. Why did Obama not say anything? Let's try to appease the bear has never worked in history, Nazi or otherwise, you need to stand your ground. His words were so great today, but obviously they had a domestic focus. But I am sure he could find a different occasion to make his point. I am not happy about the silence from the White House.
2) A boycott probably does not work for multiple reasons. a) it punishes the athletes and uses them as pawns, did not work in the last two. b) Given that China probably would not boycott, but is meanwhile in medal counts a serious competition to US, a boycott by only US and parts of EU would mean that the medals are still quite relevant, because China, Japan and Russia together still make for a major block. So, it would de facto just exclude the traditional Western world and that may not be enough anymore to be of impact. China's position in this matters now.
3) The reality is that the Olympics over the last 20 years have not used their human rights agenda anymore, because they would have to exclude most of the islamic world for violating human rights against women, if the OIC would have wanted to uphold their ideas. So while South Africa was excluded for not allowing black athletes at the time, nobody excluded those nations (Iran and others) that did not allow female athletes. That essentially killed their own mandate. And now, when it is gay rights that are violated, they have no back bone, but also no legs to stand on, because they were not consequent about it before.
3) Instead of boycotting, I suggest that all countries that are appalled by what is going on officially stich a small rainbow logo into their uniform designs, big enough to be seen on TV. Then Russia has to make the choice to either accept the logo or ban that country. You will see them bow down about as quickly as they did in Cuba. And while they will try to film around it whenever they can, the whole drama around every cut will create more media attention than they ever wanted to attract and every artificial blending away of cameras in the official Russian reporting will be commented on and the internet dialog will be endless. And it should be on all uniforms of athletes, coaches, associated delegates, etc.
Make it backfire on Russia - that is the way to fight back.
And every country would be indirectly required to take sides, not only EU and US, but also Australia, NZ, Argentinia, Brazil, South Africa...and on and on and on. Russia would achieve exactly the opposite of what they intended and that would be great.
YMMV, but that is what I would do, if I had something to say.
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Post by maitospf on Jul 24, 2013 19:58:45 GMT -5
First of all a big TY to 4Msrymn for again earning proving worthy of her title as master archivist and identifying the picture location and time. (89.5 Big FM Radio Stuttgart Germany). Thank you so much. Now, admittedly, to me, this did not send any new ideas about clues, unfortunately. Regarding Russia: I have a tough time understanding why 1)so many countries, including the US, remain officially so silent about this on a political level. Why did Obama not say anything? Let's try to appease the bear has never worked in history, Nazi or otherwise, you need to stand your ground. His words were so great today, but obviously they had a domestic focus. But I am sure he could find a different occasion to make his point. I am not happy about the silence from the White House. 2) A boycott probably does not work for multiple reasons. a) it punishes the athletes and uses them as pawns, did not work in the last two. b) Given that China probably would not boycott, but is meanwhile in medal counts a serious competition to US, a boycott by only US and parts of EU would mean that the medals are still quite relevant, because China, Japan and Russia together still make for a major block. So, it would de facto just exclude the traditional Western world and that may not be enough anymore to be of impact. China's position in this matters now. 3) The reality is that the Olympics over the last 20 years have not used their human rights agenda anymore, because they would have to exclude most of the islamic world for violating human rights against women, if the OIC would have wanted to uphold their ideas. So while South Africa was excluded for not allowing black athletes at the time, nobody excluded those nations (Iran and others) that did not allow female athletes. That essentially killed their own mandate. And now, when it is gay rights that are violated, they have no back bone, but also no legs to stand on, because they were not consequent about it before. 3) Instead of boycotting, I suggest that all countries that are appalled by what is going on officially stich a small rainbow logo into their uniform designs, big enough to be seen on TV. Then Russia has to make the choice to either accept the logo or ban that country. You will see them bow down about as quickly as they did in Cuba. And while they will try to film around it whenever they can, the whole drama around every cut will create more media attention than they ever wanted to attract and every artificial blending away of cameras in the official Russian reporting will be commented on and the internet dialog will be endless. And it should be on all uniforms of athletes, coaches, associated delegates, etc.
Make it backfire on Russia - that is the way to fight back.
And every country would be indirectly required to take sides, not only EU and US, but also Australia, NZ, Argentinia, Brazil, South Africa...and on and on and on. Russia would achieve exactly the opposite of what they intended and that would be great.
YMMV, but that is what I would do, if I had something to say.
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Post by franki13 on Jul 24, 2013 19:58:46 GMT -5
My thoughts and prayers are with the people of Russia. We know from Adam’s visits they are a wonderful and caring people.
No individual should have to be exposed to the heinous intolerance of their government. The scary part is that this law will give them the excuse to expand outside the gay community. They have already given the police the power to arrest a “suspected” gay or pro-gay supporter; no one will be safe.
This sounds very much like the way Hitler started and we know where that ended.
This is a cancer and if the World Community does not stand up against it, it will spread quickly.
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Post by maitospf on Jul 24, 2013 20:01:48 GMT -5
I have no idea where this old/new pic was taken.
∞DreamerGlambert∞ @jasminglanimal new/old pic so cute :D twitpic.com/d4ei5v ![]() me likey ![]() a la Mad Max 8-) |
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Post by wal on Jul 24, 2013 20:04:28 GMT -5
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Post by mszue on Jul 24, 2013 20:05:12 GMT -5
crazyforadam wrote:
Instead of boycotting, I suggest that all countries that are appalled by what is going on officially stich a small rainbow logo into their uniform designs, big enough to be seen on TV. Then Russia has to make the choice to either accept the logo or ban that country. You will see them bow down about as quickly as they did in Cuba. And while they will try to film around it whenever they can, the whole drama around every cut will create more media attention than they ever wanted to attract and every artificial blending away of cameras in the official Russian reporting will be commented on and the internet dialog will be endless. And it should be on all uniforms of athletes, coaches, associated delegates, etc.
Make it backfire on Russia - that is the way to fight back.
And every country would be indirectly required to take sides, not only EU and US, but also Australia, NZ, Argentinia, Brazil, South Africa...and on and on and on. Russia would achieve exactly the opposite of what they intended and that would be great.
THIS IS BRILLIANT....if this is not your original idea then I think you should tweet the source and post it everywhere you are. If it is your original idea, then IMO you should take this and send it to every major news source 'letters to the editor' as well as create a simple video and post it everywhere. This is EXACTLY what should happen!! good stuff
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Post by wal on Jul 24, 2013 20:05:24 GMT -5
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Let's celebrate the music together!
