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Post by butterfly on Aug 16, 2013 14:01:00 GMT -5
Does anyone here have an obit for Gale Chester Whittington? All I've seen so far are articles on his writings, etc. I would like to post the obit on some gay websites, where Adam is continually mocked and scorned. Whenever I post something positive about Adam, I am ridiculed as a "glamcow" (=an older woman who loves Adam) as no gay man could possibly be a fan. It has been getting a bit better lately, though anything good about Adam still brings out a lot of negativity. "glamcow"  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 14:01:27 GMT -5
Does anyone here have an obit for Gale Chester Whittington? All I've seen so far are articles on his writings, etc. I would like to post the obit on some gay websites, where Adam is continually mocked and scorned. Whenever I post something positive about Adam, I am ridiculed as a "glamcow" (=an older woman who loves Adam) as no gay man could possibly be a fan. It has been getting a bit better lately, though anything good about Adam still brings out a lot of negativity. That bigotry against Adam ,by the gay community, is beyond sad and misplaced. He has done so much to help the very community that mocks him.How dare they.. My bad |
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Post by melliemom on Aug 16, 2013 14:03:34 GMT -5
That bigotry against Adam ,by the gay community, is beyond sad and misplaced. He has done so much to help the very community that mocks him.How dare they.. My bad Why my bad ? you are wonderful |
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Post by betty on Aug 16, 2013 14:04:10 GMT -5
Awww, Adam tweeted ... !
Adam Lambert@adamlambert11m
RIP @galechester. Thank you for being such a bright light! You will be missed.
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Post by Q3 on Aug 16, 2013 14:04:15 GMT -5
Does anyone here have an obit for Gale Chester Whittington? All I've seen so far are articles on his writings, etc. I would like to post the obit on some gay websites, where Adam is continually mocked and scorned. Whenever I post something positive about Adam, I am ridiculed as a "glamcow" (=an older woman who loves Adam) as no gay man could possibly be a fan. It has been getting a bit better lately, though anything good about Adam still brings out a lot of negativity. That bigotry against Adam ,by the gay community, is beyond sad and misplaced. He has done so much to help the very community that mocks him.How dare they.. self hate is a terrible thing.You are wonderful for being you and wonderful in persisting in your fandom for a man who would probably give you one of the shirts off his back.. (just had to lighten up). The only thing I have is what's on Adamtopia . zengersmag.blogspot.com/2009/08/movements-pioneers-launch-project.htmladamlamberttv.blogspot.com/www.facebook.com/AdamLambertFanClub?fref=ts...................................... The fan club started by Gale.. 40,000 members I believe.. Hope this will convince some anti-Adam folks to give it a rest.. Sorry for spamming but I wanted to respond. I was at Pittsburgh Pride where most of the 2 block long audience was LBGT -- the majority of the audience was there for the event, and to see Adam and Sharon Needles a popular drag performer and recording artist from Pittsburgh. It was not an "Adam" concert. He got a tremendously positive reception. I think some of the negative Adam comments posted on gay sites are a mix of negative response to avid, female Adam fans posting on gay sites to "defend/support" Adam, and trolls who are not actually gay men, and some gay men who actually do not like Adam. The number of trolls on gay sites who appear whenever an Adam article has gone up since VFTW (the originator of "glitter cow" and "glamcow" labels) shut down. I honestly think earning the respect of anyone who would label a gay Adam fans a "glamcow" is probably not worth anything and is probably not attainable. (And these comments are probably being posted by haters not actually by gay men.) |
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Post by adamrocks on Aug 16, 2013 14:05:53 GMT -5
Does anyone here have an obit for Gale Chester Whittington? All I've seen so far are articles on his writings, etc. I would like to post the obit on some gay websites, where Adam is continually mocked and scorned. Whenever I post something positive about Adam, I am ridiculed as a "glamcow" (=an older woman who loves Adam) as no gay man could possibly be a fan. It has been getting a bit better lately, though anything good about Adam still brings out a lot of negativity. Why don't gay men like Adam? It seems with many successful people, their own community (ethnicity, country, regions, etc) reveres them. What is it about Adam they dislike?I would really like an answer to this, too. I just don't understand how Adam's community could reject such a talented 'out and proud' and giving person. ETA: Q3 thanks for your comments on it....I saw them after I posted. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 14:08:17 GMT -5
Why my bad ? you are wonderful Thanks  Just be careful about generalising "the gay community" as Adam haters, he has gay fans out the wazoo, the haters just happen to be louder |
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Post by belle on Aug 16, 2013 14:08:58 GMT -5
It seems I'm the ignorant here  I agree, the tweet is not good nor well-worded. But when you know it's a fan (a non-native english-speaker I think), not Avicii - what's the objection? - he tweets info and his views as an avid fan, gets response and replies to that, I don't see any harm, should I? And what 'lazy clicks' (that would probably give monetary benefit to someone 'not worthy' perhaps) are you talking about? - nobody gets any money from this (as far as I know), don't you want to see his info copied here or what? No issue with tweets from that account being posted here. Actually, a small bit of my response to the tweet and Holly's long comment about Marketing was plucked out of context and my follow-up post was so that there could be a coherent conversation. Not a big deal. I was trying to explain the use of the work relationship in my post. I used relationship in a marketing context not a personal context. The kind of relationships we have with brands, stores and institutions. I have been unable to determine anything about that Twitter account other than it is not actually OFFICIAL. It appears to be a fan but someone who is a fluent English speaker. I believe the use of the word "those" was intended very specifically for the few Adam fans who are repetitively tweeted about LMD and being annoying. But hard to tell. >> It is one of the problems with Twitter and online communication -- hard to decipher anger from sarcasm/joking. And there is no chance there will be a third Avicii single released before the album is released since single #2 goes on sale on August 30th and the album is released on Sept 17th. Thanks for your reply! I understand the marketing context where I too would side-eye the tweet if it were to come directly from Avicii's team. (Also everyone (fan) should understand that there can be no 3rd single in the next few weeks.) The long marketing post was my attempt to give background to my opinions - and remind of the fan status of the account. Holly only contributed with two posts containing one phrase each. I strongly agree with "hard to decipher anger from sarcasm/joking" - especially when no smileys and no explanations are given. |
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Post by mszue on Aug 16, 2013 14:12:04 GMT -5
Re that Avicii tweet and your post Q3. That is exactly what my take was on the tweet as well. As a fan, my gut reaction was something along the lines of " Really? Just how stupid do you think I am and quit using Adam fans for lazy clicks".....and then I thought "What a stupid tweet that was"! Then I just shrug it off and lose interest.....jmho It seems I'm the ignorant here I agree, the tweet is not good nor well-worded. But when you know it's a fan (a non-native english-speaker I think), not Avicii - what's the objection? - he tweets info and his views as an avid fan, gets response and replies to that, I don't see any harm, should I? And what 'lazy clicks' (that would probably give monetary benefit to someone 'not worthy' perhaps) are you talking about? - nobody gets any money from this (as far as I know), don't you want to see his info copied here or what? I am not going to get into a 'who is right' or other such thing...I stated this was just my fan reaction, based on what I assumed ...as many no doubt did....that this was an 'official' site and tweet. As such, it would/could be expected to be from a professional. A professional should know better. Now we 'know' it is not an official site so there is no assumption of a lack of professionalism...but that does not change the tone of the message. If it was unintended due to second language difficulties, that is too bad. I am not angry with them or anyone...I don't care that much about Avicii...he is fine without me....I do care about Adam...but the reflection here is not on Adam...and not major. If you are offended Belle, or taking it personally....I am very sorry about that....I meant nothing negative to/about you or second language fans. I did not realize this was a fan. That is it...outta here.... |
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Post by melliemom on Aug 16, 2013 14:13:34 GMT -5
Why my bad ? you are wonderful Thanks Just be careful about generalising "the gay community" as Adam haters, he has gay fans out the wazoo, the haters just happen to be louder OK good point ,I changed my sentence to some in the gay community. Why are there haters? I don't understand and this bias makes me want to sit down for a good cry. |
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