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Post by jean1010 on Nov 23, 2013 12:38:22 GMT -5
Interesting article. It reminded me of the time Adam explained that the "she" in Kickin' In was a man. I thought it was interesting that a couple of comments indicated that the practice of gay men using the term "she" for each other was something that the older generation did, and not used very much by the younger crowd. |
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Nov 23, 2013 12:43:03 GMT -5
IMO, it wasn't just the kiss that caused the big dustup about his AMA performance. The parts that aired here on our feed are what lost him a lot of fans permanently. I understand the rest of the country did not see all that. But the crotch smoosh on his male band member, the grabbing at the female's crotch and the hostile mean expression on his face along with the finger at the end of the performance. Those are what hurt him the most. I was stunned-horrified and felt like crying when I saw all that. And when he said that he cried later over that performance, I think that is what he was referring to.
It certainly created massive publicity for him. I guess it got him the same kind of notoriety that Miley is getting now. Some loved it, some hated it and some who really liked him before never gave him another chance. I have friends and family in that category. And they are not pearl clutchers. It was just too much.
Miley did her stuff on purpose. Adam said he got carried away with adrenaline and the performances that had gone on before his.
His concert performances after that were edgy with the kiss, but he has never done the other things again that I know of, and I'm thankful for that and I'm glad that I stayed.
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Post by Q3 on Nov 23, 2013 12:46:20 GMT -5
Yipes, I just pulled an all-nighter! Feel like I am back in college. Now, let me get a banner and some news on page 1.
And in the midst of working almost 24-7 for the past week -- I "had" to interrupt my life to take 2 hours dealing with Biloxi tickets and arrangements! I love the excitement but I am out of practice deal with Ticketbasterd.
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Post by belle on Nov 23, 2013 13:17:34 GMT -5
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Post by shimoli710 on Nov 23, 2013 13:26:25 GMT -5
I think Adam's performance on the AMA's helped to begin the national conversation on gay sexuality.His kissing another male on national TV really led to a big open door, afterwards ,kissing between men on TV,in movies,etc. just didn't seem like a big deal any more.The conversation on why women artists could be sexual ,while gay males had to hide their sexuality. They had to be non-threatening or funny in order to be acceptable.IMHO, Adam opened a discussion that America really didn't want to have ,but needed. He was willing to be himself ,which sure could have brought down his career.. One of the reasons I so love Adam,beside his awesome talent and good looks,is the fact that he's incredibly honest and courageous.I would guess That many here on Adamtopia would go to the ends of the earth for Adam because of the guts he continues to show.. One of the craziest moments on the AMAS,IMHO, turned out to be one of the bravest. YES! ![]() This is one of the reasons I love him so much too!  |
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Post by Q3 on Nov 23, 2013 13:28:45 GMT -5
I love the energy and joy of this artwork! Thanks for sharing it with us. I am just starting to recover and catch up after 47 hours of mostly working! I need to go to SOUTH BEACH! [Thanks Adam for inspiring me to take a break!] ** On Glee in the UK -- the UK is a much smaller market than the US, Glee is on SKY1 (satelitte TV, not network so smaller reach), the viewership for Glee has dropped in the UK as it has in the US (apx 400,000 down from 1.1 million in 2011) and SKY1 has made two scheduling decisions that have not been good for Glee ratings: - Moved it from 9:00PM Thursday to 8:00PM Friday which means that the adult content/language is cut out and ratings dropped. The UK allows more mature content in the old time slot at 9:00PM than at 8:00PM. - Run the show after many avid fans have already watched it online. So do not expect Glee to be as prominent or well-covered in the UK as it is in the US. For perspective, the highest rated TV programme  ever on SKY1 drew 2.8 million viewers. Many US Cable channels blow this number away. NOTE: I do not have a ton of knowledge about the UK market so please if I have messed this up, correct me. Also, unlike the US and Canada where I have access to the Nielsen ratings from work (of course I never use that info here), I have not ratings access for the UK. |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Nov 23, 2013 13:42:28 GMT -5
Thanks to ATOP I now have a Biloxi ticket in a prime location for getting audio & maybe video!
Which means I now have 2 tickets to sale at cost. Ticketmaster now has a very easy way to transfer the tickets to another person which we just used. One of my tickets is in the upper balcony and is in a slightly better location than the 9 remaining reserved seats in Ticketmaster. The other is a GA ticket. Send me a PM is interested or a tweet (same name as here).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2013 13:47:02 GMT -5
IMO, it wasn't just the kiss that caused the big dustup about his AMA performance. The parts that aired here on our feed are what lost him a lot of fans permanently. I understand the rest of the country did not see all that. But the crotch smoosh of his male band member, the grabbing at the female's crotch and the hostile expression on his face along with the finger at the end of the performance. Those are what hurt him the most. I was stunned and felt like crying when I saw all that. And when he said that he cried later over that performance, I think that is what he was referring to. It certainly created massive publicity for him. I guess it got him the same kind of notoriety that Miley is getting now. Some loved it, some hated it and some who really liked him before never gave him another chance. I have friends and family in that category. And they are not pearl clutchers. It was just too much. Miley did her stuff on purpose. Adam said he got carried away with adrenaline and the performances that had gone on before his. His concert performances after that were edgy with the kiss, but he has never done the other things again that I know of, and I'm thankful for that and I'm glad that I stayed. Adam's AMA performance was actually really a little edgy. Lots of the other performances that night were "play" edgy, with little to nothing at stake. Most pop performances are like that, imo (including Miley's), not that there is anything with that, but for me there was nothing wrong about Adam's performance either. For me, it was a lot more interesting. (Adam never directly said he cried about that performance. I think that's an interpretation. He said something like he cried over a movie and needed it. I think he could have just as easily needed a good cry because he was damn frustrated at the hypocrisy and hate that drove the backlash about it.) Adam has still done plenty of "other things" in performances since then (don't know if they are THE other things) especially with Terrance and Johnny, and I'm thankful for that. For myself, I hope Adam continues to have more and more freedom in his career to express himself, his feelings, whatever they are, how he wants to. That's what I'm interested in most about him. |
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Post by shimoli710 on Nov 23, 2013 13:49:51 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Nov 23, 2013 13:53:58 GMT -5
IMO, it wasn't just the kiss that caused the big dustup about his AMA performance. The parts that aired here on our feed are what lost him a lot of fans permanently. I understand the rest of the country did not see all that. But the crotch smoosh of his male band member, the grabbing at the female's crotch and the hostile expression on his face along with the finger at the end of the performance. Those are what hurt him the most. I was stunned and felt like crying when I saw all that. And when he said that he cried later over that performance, I think that is what he was referring to. It certainly created massive publicity for him. I guess it got him the same kind of notoriety that Miley is getting now. Some loved it, some hated it and some who really liked him before never gave him another chance. I have friends and family in that category. And they are not pearl clutchers. It was just too much. Miley did her stuff on purpose. Adam said he got carried away with adrenaline and the performances that had gone on before his. His concert performances after that were edgy with the kiss, but he has never done the other things again that I know of, and I'm thankful for that and I'm glad that I stayed. Of everything that you listed, only the finger at the end was not broadcast. I think in the end that the AMAs helped Adam by providing a platform for WWFM to be a hit, by helping him get the first support from the Gay "establishment" in the US, and by generating massive global press. Oddly, I rewatched the AMA performance and it is not that bad and not that offensive -- it certainly would not be shocking in the US in 2013. I still hate the set, the production demands were changing for a "singer" who was lipsyncing and Adam was singing, the song is hard to sing even for Adam, and Adam just got into a bad, angry space during the performance. Not that best time for him to have a major adrenaline rush. I disagree about the Male-Male kiss not mattering. It was all about gay sexuality and the associating with S&M when you read the complaints to the FCC. And since the "delightful" folks from American Family Radio are from my home town (Tupelo, MS) and they were behind most of the complaints and trying to get Adam banned from earth, it was all about his display of "deviant homosexual" behavior. I have battled these folks for years and will continue the fight. And now that the dust about Adam's AMA performance has settled, I think a lot of the "shock" was orchestrated by RCA and Adam's ad libs were the kiss, figure at the end and amping the performance up a lot (the anger of the role.) RCA picked the song as the lead single and it was about S&M sung by an out gay man, RCA picked the producer for the AMAs, RCA picked the song for the AMA's with Adam's input -- so the theme, leashes, and bi-sexual imagery was from RCA and their hired staff. I give them credit for one thing -- unlike the chicken shit lame suits at DCA and ABC who denied any knowledge of the "offensive" behavior in the performance, RCA supported Adam. So do GLAAD. But 19 Management just ducked. Question 1 - isn't it curious how similar the Miley think was to what Adam did? (Not the specifics but the surprisingly sexual and "unplanned" actions.) She is also with RCA working with some of the same people who worked with Adam in 2009. I know that many Adam fans would have like him to do a stunning vocal performance without the other stuff. If Adam had come out, done WWFM with his lasers (like on Idol May 2010), it would have gotten good reviews and been forgotten. Lady Gaga would have taken the night and Adam would be forever battling the image of the nice gay guy from Idol who sings power ballads. The AMA performance made Adam the news of the music world --worldwide -- for over a week. It burst him out of the Idol bubble. And it freed him to be Adam. Question 2 - would any fan who stopped being a fan of Adam's after the AMAs really be a fan of his live concerts or would they like the Glee floorbert? Finally, my only wish for the AMAs is that Adam sung Fever -- a better song -- and that he would have had a simpler set. But I would leave that kiss right in there and that he would have pushed the boundaries a lot taking the news that night. |
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