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Post by 4Ms on Sept 10, 2011 12:52:30 GMT -5
29. Krochmal, Shana Naomi. "Adam Lambert: The Out Interview, Part One" Page 2 OUT Magazine 12 November 2009 www.out.com/detail.asp?page=2&id=26191The Out 100 Breakout of the Year on life inside the Idol machine, out in the real world, and in the love game. Don’t you want to open people’s minds with your art? You’ve struck me as being an artist who has a point of view. I do have a point of view. I may have something to say now and again. I just want people to enjoy the song and have a good time. That’s what music is about for me. It’s not so political for me. I may be the subject of something that’s so political, being that we’re in a weird time right now. And if I can indirectly open people’s minds up and get them to kind of change their views a little bit, then I’m really thrilled with that. But that’s not my mission. That’s not why I’m doing this.
You’ve talked about Idol as less of a competition and more of a platform. I’ve always seen Idol as a machine, like a political machine that can make or break -- It is!
Watching you was exciting because it felt like you were beating them at their own game. We were all on the same page. I could feel early on that they were all on my side. They weren’t against me. They never said, “Tone it down.” They knew it was good for ratings, they knew people were into it. They encouraged it. I was like, “This is great! This could not have gone better.” They were totally supportive of what I wanted to do. They didn’t ask questions. They were like, “What are you singing? Is it well known? Are people gonna like it? Well, cool! Then go for it, man! You’re wearing what? All right!” They didn’t care.
It’s about money at the end of the day, right? It’s about making a good TV show.
Could expectations for your album be any bigger? I know. It’s a lot of pressure right now, and it’s gotten to me a couple times. But, I think that what you were saying -- about the show being a platform and being a machine and all that -- I think what happens is, I’m one of the lucky people that have been in the industry a little bit. I haven’t necessarily been in the recording industry. Over the past couple of years I started working on some demos and things like that and wanting to get into it. But I’ve been in the theater industry for a long time. And I’ve lived in L.A. for eight years. And when you’re in the city of entertainment, and you open your eyes and you meet people and you hear stories and you have friends that have been through this and that, going onto a show like Idol, you get it, going into it. I think what happens is that a lot of people that they get are from a small town in the Midwest, or they were a student and now they just kind of sing on the side. The whole amateur aspect of the show is really interesting, because it creates accessible personalities for the audience to attach themselves to. That’s why it looks like a machine. Because the machine has to lead them around, these amateurs that don’t know what else to do. And I think that there are some people that come onto the show that are savvy, and they get how to play the show. And I guess that was me.
Have you gotten any really good pieces of savvy business advice? Well, I’ve been told by a handful of the producers to just be true to yourself. Just make sure that you feel like you’re at the center of this, artistically. That’s what I’m trying to do. And it’s being facilitated really elegantly. It’s a weird misconception with the show, that it’s a machine and they puppet people around. I think some people kind of end up getting puppeted because they don’t really know how to drive.
I meant more like, they get to test you and see if you can rise to the occasion. As opposed to how you came in and were like, “This is what we’re going to do. Work around me.” Yeah, they love that, though. It’s less work for them. I think they get excited when they see someone with drive and ideas and confidence. They love that. That’s the thing about the show that people don’t get. They’re not threatened by that. That’s what they would love. They would love to get as many people like that on the show as possible. It would make for a good show.
It’ll be interesting to see this year’s show. I hope they take some more risks. They really should.
So how are you doing with the expectation factor? I’m just trying not to think about it. It’s like, “Just make your album, just make your music.”
When’s the last time you had a full day off? Yesterday. Hung out with my boyfriend. Went to the beach. Just relaxed.
Let’s talk about boys. OK.
Tell me more about your boyfriend. You know, I try not to talk about him too much to the press because it’s like, trying to keep something kind of private. It’s surprisingly -- well, I guess its not that surprising, but it’s very difficult to maintain a relationship amidst all this.
And it’s all relatively new. It’s a lot to ask of someone, to be able to be OK [with it].
Has he been OK? Yeah.
Were there guys hitting on you on tour? No. The majority of fans that I came into contact with were women. A lot of women.
But you have plenty of gay fans. I’ve met like, three. That’s the thing that’s so funny to me -- I don’t have a good idea of who’s into me, because the only people I’ve seen are like, women.
Maybe the gay men would never have gone to an Idol concert. That’s true, it may be the Idol thing. I didn’t think about that. You’re probably right about that.
I was surprised how affirming it felt to see you perform in a big arena, with 20,000 people screaming for you. That’s the thing too, is that in an indirect way, acceptance is being promoted right now. That’s really, really powerful, and that’s a hard thing to have happen. Especially for a male in the music industry, quite frankly. It’s tough.
There’s a way in which both you and Neil Patrick Harris are being talked about as exceptions to the rule, to the idea that there could never be an out, gay leading man or male musical star. You both seem very confident and comfortable with who you are. But that’s not always true of your handlers. We’ve gotten plenty of push back from your management -- and many other people’s -- who say, “Well, let’s not be too gay…” Well, you know, I think that there’s something to that, though. I think the whole magic of this moment is that I’m not alienating anybody. I’m not trying to anyway. I want as many people to feel like they can like the music. I don’t want to edit myself to the point where I feel like I don’t have integrity. But at the same time, I feel like I don’t want to alienate people, so it’s really hard. It’s almost like being a political figure. It’s like a balancing act. I feel really good about how open I’ve been, ’cause I really don’t feel like I’ve hidden anything. It’s like the picking and choosing. When is it appropriate and when is it not? One of the things that I don’t like about the gay community is that people define themselves by their sexuality -- and that’s bullshit. It shouldn’t be about that. It should be that it just so happens that you’re this or that, and that’s your sexuality. It doesn’t mean that that should dictate what your social group is or where you go out or who you talk to or what your interests are. That’s bullshit. That’s outdated.
It’s very narrow. The segregation [from straight people] that exists in the gay community is outdated. At a time, it was necessary because we weren’t accepted. And now that acceptance is moving way forward, over the past 10 years. I think that we need to move forward too, and I think we need to kind of like, stop being so segregated and just be.
How do you describe your sexuality? I think one of the things about the gay community that’s really interesting is that while people own their homosexuality, there is a strange aversion to letting the masculine and the feminine exist within you in a balanced way. And for me, personally, I feel I have a very strong masculine side, and I also have a very strong feminine side. And a lot of people are scared to live in that gray area. There’s boys out in Boystown that are either really fem or really butch. It’s at the extremes. I love when I meet people that are just kind of comfortable being both. And they don’t have to identify being really butch or really fem. Why? Why would you have to?
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Post by 4Ms on Sept 10, 2011 12:53:16 GMT -5
30. Krochmal, Shana Naomi. "Adam Lambert: The Out Interview, Part One Page 3" OUT Magazine 12 November 2009 www.out.com/detail.asp?page=3&id=26191The Out 100 Breakout of the Year on life inside the Idol machine, out in the real world, and in the love game. And also, if you’re one of these, then you must be attracted to the other. Are you attracted to guys like you? I don’t even know anymore. I think when I was younger, I could box in what my sexuality was about, what’s my type and all that. But as I’ve gotten older, and just learned more about myself and the world, it’s not really about type anymore. I mean, if someone’s hot, they’re hot. If someone’s interesting, they’re interesting. If you have an energy and a chemistry with someone, then you have chemistry. Done. You can’t really define that or explain it. It just is. You just meet people and you click, or you don’t. You know? [Pauses.] Although -- I like pretty boys.
[Laughs.] What kind of pretty? Pretty. Pretty is pretty. And I’m generally drawn to [guys who are] younger than me. Generally…but there are exceptions.
You told Rolling Stone that you had a crush on Kris Allen, and everyone went crazy about it. Believe me, right after I said it, I was like… It turned into this thing, and I was like, "Oh God, I shouldn’t said that and now it’s blown way out of proportion."
Are you usually attracted to straight boys? No, actually.
Kris seems like a real straight guy. He is a real straight guy. He’s very straight. He’s just…cute.
He’s pretty. He’s pretty. He’s a pretty boy. You know? And he’s nice. He’s a really nice guy. One of the things that I think is so refreshing and cool about him is that he’s from Arkansas -- and this is me being small-minded -- I just kinda figured that the acceptance of people like me in Arkansas is probably a lot lower than here. And he’s very open-minded to people’s lifestyles and he doesn’t judge. He’s a good guy.
To have someone who is very religious and who feels like that -- That’s the funny thing, is that he’s not very religious, I don’t know where he got that label. Danny [Gokey] is very religious.
Did they put all the boys on the same bus? Uh-huh. Eleven of us.
Let’s talk about Michael Sarver, who seemed at first to be a religious guy who wasn’t very comfortable with you being gay. But when the tour encountered “God Hates Fags” protesters, he was all over Twitter condemning them and defending you. He’s got a really good heart, that guy. He does. And I think that he represents a large portion of our country, good people who are just scared of what they don’t know. We didn’t even have that many conversations about it directly, but it’s just another example of acceptance. We just got along with each other. He just wants everybody to like him, and he wants to like everybody. It’s very simple, what his needs are. And I have very similar needs. We cut up all the time, backstage and on the bus. We get along great. I think what he realized was that it doesn’t fucking matter. And he got past that.
Was Danny very religious in a way that made you uncomfortable? No, never uncomfortable. Danny’s a little bit more fundamental in his views than I think Michael is. And I don’t think his views are going to change. But it didn’t get in the way. We had a number of conversations on religion and morality. And it wasn’t for either one of us to try to convince the other, it was just to kind of learn. He was very cool with that, just having a conversation. We had some really deep conversations about God.
What did you learn? I just got a better sense of what a very strong, traditional Christian outlook is. I don’t really have a lot of friends that are that way, so it was educational for me to learn about what that is and what the beliefs are behind it. I was raised Jewish, first of all, and I’m not even that religious. I would consider myself spiritual, kind of leaning towards more New Age ideas. I’m not like, fully hippie -- but those kind of belief systems make the most sense to me.
Have you already gotten your scandalous past out of the way? I do feel like a lot of its behind me, and that feels good.
So you’re not waiting for another shoe to drop… What’s funny is that in the ’70s a lot of the glam artists -- like Bowie, T. Rex, Iggy Pop, Alice Cooper, KISS -- they were gender bending with their image, but most of them were pretty hetero. Even though they looked really flamboyant. Bowie was the one guy that kind of made you wonder. But he was straight, right?
Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I know, I didn’t like that either. But that’s the ’80s for you. At the heart of it, the question was, “Are they gay?” And I think it would be kind of fun to toy with the imagery of, “Is he gay?” but the other way around.
Are you toying with perception when you talk about how you could be bi-curious? Or are you generally attracted to women? I will make out with a girl at a bar. I mean, after a couple of drinks.
[Laughing] That doesn’t make you any less gay. Get three mai tais in a gay boy and he’ll make out with a girl. Sex is something different. That’s why I say I’m curious. There are gay guys that gag and go “eww” at the thought of having sex with a girl. I’m curious about it, because I’ve never done it.
Have you ever had any sex with a girl? Oral.
You went down on her? Uh-huh.
Was it gross, or it was just not what you wanted? It was a little gross because I don’t think she was as clean as she could’ve been. It wasn’t the act of it that really turned me off. I don’t really remember. I was 18 and I was drunk. Or maybe I was 17... The point of the matter is that I would not rule it out. The idea is intriguing.
And it’s threatening. Well, it’s threatening personally because you start identifying as a certain thing for so long, the idea of kind of going outside of that is scary because you’re like, “But that’s who I am!” Being curious and embracing that curiosity is all a part of what I’m about. You don’t have to be any one thing. You can kinda just be. Just live your life -- and play.
If you were going to pick one thing to be remembered for, so far, what would it be? That I can sing my face off. I mean, that’s what I do. All this other stuff is part of a personality, persona thing surrounding that. I hope that people are like, “Oh, I like his voice. I like his music.”
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Post by 4Ms on Sept 10, 2011 12:53:39 GMT -5
31. Krochmal, Shana Naomi. "Adam Lambert: The Out Interview, Part Two" Pages 1 - 3 OUT Magazine 12 November 2009 atop.proboards.com/post/90978/threadwww.out.com/detail.asp?page=1&id=26192www.out.com/detail.asp?page=2&id=26192www.out.com/detail.asp?page=3&id=26192The Out 100 Breakout of the Year on life inside the Idol machine, out in the real world, and in the love game. Inearly October, Out sat down with Adam Lambert for an hour-long talk about his upcoming album, life inside the American Idol machine, and how carving out a career in the music industry is still easier for him than being in love. (Lambert and then-boyfriend Drake LaBry broke up following that interview, after Out went to press.)
In this second half of our extended interview transcript (to read the first half, head here.), Lambert talks about the responsibility that comes with being a role model -- it doesn’t involve being a “goody two-shoes” -- plus the community of counterculture artists who keep him grounded. He also opens up about fighting codependency in his past relationships and struggling to be a good boyfriend.
Out: Let’s talk about Freddie Mercury. There was a moment in the finale when you and Kris were singing Queen, and Brian May looked at you like he was going to start crying. Adam Lambert: He’s really cool. There was some wild energy going on during that performance. And even with Kris up there. Kris was really connecting with me, too.
“We Are the Champions” was a great song choice for the two of you. It was very cool, and Brian was a sweetheart. Yeah, that felt really good. It felt really like the progression of that -- it’s so sad, because Freddie was definitely an idol of mine. His voice, first of all, and his showmanship. Then when you really look at it, he couldn’t be who he was publicly. That was one of the things [we considered] when we decided I should just talk about it in Rolling Stone and just get it out of the way. I just don’t want to live my life trying to hide anything, or putting up a front. I don’t -- I will not do that. Too many people have had to do that in the past. It’s just so sad.
I don’t think it’s very good for your art, to put up a front. My mentality is, if I lose some fans, fuck it. I need to be happy, too.
Do you feel like you learned how to make a music video from doing camera work with Idol? Yep. And that’s the thing that was so funny. I walked on the set [for the “Time for Miracles” video] and the production crew were the same people that did those Ford music videos. So it felt really comfortable. We were on the show and we would always be like, “Ugh, why the hell are we doing another one of these Ford commercials? They’re so stupid.” And now I look at it and I think, you know what? That really was good training. Because I felt so comfortable and I probably wouldn’t have otherwise. When you do anything in slow motion, they speed up the music and you have to sing with it faster. And we did that for the commercials on Idol. And I think had we not done that, now I would’ve been like, “What the fuck?”
In videos for the album, would having a pretty boy love interest be too much? I don’t know yet. I’m gonna kind of play it by ear. But eventually it would be cool to be able to do something like that.
Do people come to you with ideas that are more out there than you would have come up with? Or are you one who’s pushing them? There are definitely creative ideas that come up, but sometimes they’re just not right. Sometimes they’re out there, but they’re corny. Camp and corny are two different things. Camp has to be done just right, or else it isn’t right. It has to be like, sophisticated. I love high fashion and theatrics and things that are really conceptual. But if you push that too far then it gets kind of self-indulgent.
That’s always the question with Lady Gaga -- how far is too far? I think she’s smart. I predict that she will experiment and change it up a little bit. She’s got to show a little crack in the veneer for the audience to really get a three-dimensional view of who she is. I love that she’s brave enough to be that eccentric. I think it takes balls to be that out there.
Do you worry about not being brave enough? No, I don’t worry about it. It’s more calculated than that: when do you go all the way out and when do you pull it back? It’s like how it was on Idol for me. Musically and visually, you have to do both, highs and lows. You have to do [something] crazy and over-the-top and then you have to strip it down and do something sensitive.
I have to say, I didn’t really expect to see someone on Idol tour jerking off a mic stand. You know what was really funny about that -- a woman came up to me in the autograph line and was like, “This is a family show. You need to make this more appropriate.” And I looked at her and said, “I don’t need a lecture from you.” I kinda smiled and she was like, “But there’s little girls in the audience.” I said to her, “They probably don’t know what I’m doing. You do. They don’t know what I’m doing. They just think I’m playing with my mic! They don’t know that I’m jerking off. They don’t get that yet. Come on! And, if they do, then…sorry.”
They didn’t learn it from you. Hopefully it will facilitate a conversation. And it’s not different from what Elvis and Michael Jackson did in their day. Relatively speaking.
Tell me about working with Linda Perry. She’s great. I remember she said to me at one point, “Its funny, I’ve never worked with a gay guy before.” She keeps it real, and she also has a ton of artistic integrity. It’s not commercial with her. She doesn’t want it to be what everybody else is doing. She loves thing that are different and out of the box.
Do you feel like there is more room for you in a rock genre? Yes and no. Because, yes, I can sing a rock song. I love rock music. I love drums. I love the sound of a guitar. I love thinking this track is going to be played at a bar where people are drinking and having a good time and wanting to feel sexy. That’s what this song is for, to make you feel hot. It’s not deep, necessarily. But sometimes you should just have fun. It’s nice to meet a gay man who enjoys drugs that aren’t meth or coke. I stay very far away from those things. It’s funny too because I remember after that [Rolling Stone] article, my mom was like, “I don’t know if you should have said all that stuff about drugs, Adam. You know there’s a lot of kids…” And I said, “But that’s life, that’s real.” I just wanted to be careful that it didn’t turn into a fucking pageant. It doesn’t have to be goody two-shoes. I’m not. I can fake it sometimes. Maybe. There is an element of responsibility. I’m not a jackass. There are kids exposed to things. I don’t want to fuck up some kid’s life or something, or make a parent's job really difficult. But at the same time, it’s like --
What are you doing that would do that? I don’t know. To some people, me being sexual is really offensive because I’m gay. They’re like, he’s being really gay. And I’m like, actually, no, because there’s no other guys up here. I’m just being sexual. And male sexuality is frightening to America. Female sexuality -- it might not be the best example of it, but it’s all over the place. Overt female sexuality might be degrading. It might not be the most feminist type of sexuality, unless you look at it like the woman’s in control, so she’s got the power. Sexuality is just -- people are so freaked out by it. The double standard is that a woman can get away with it but a man hasn’t been able to yet.
How famous is too famous? I don’t know. I really think it’s relative. The hardest thing to do in this situation -- but the best thing to do -- is to not take it too seriously. By doing that you don’t let it run your life and freak you out. It’s all kind of ridiculous, if you put yourself outside of it and try to look at it as objectively as possible. It’s all ridiculous. The whole thing. It’s crazy. It’s hilarious. It’s funny. It’s great. It’s really positive. And when you start letting the pressure get to you -- our job as entertainers is to not let the pressure get to us. Our job as entertainers is to be like, OK, I’m just going to keep doing what I do. And obviously I’m being an idealist right now -- but I kind of have to be, or how else am I going to last?
Can you go back to Burning Man? I hope so. I’ll just wear disguises. Fame doesn’t freak me out, and I can handle it. But sometimes out in public there are people that just are so rude. Like, people are really cool about it and they’ll come up to you and they’re just like, “Oh, hey man, I really liked you.” It’s brief, it’s sweet, it’s genuine. But some people freak out. And I’m like, "Why are you freaking out?" I don’t get that mentality. I’ve never felt like that about a celebrity before -- except maybe Madonna. When I met Madonna my heart was racing. That’s my one experience being star-struck. And I told her, “I’m freaking out.” And she said, “Why?” And I said, “Because you’re fucking Madonna.”
But there are kids who feel like that about you already. But even though I was star-struck [about Madonna] and freaking out, I internalized it. And I made sure that I didn’t make her feel uncomfortable. And some people, it’s like they just don’t get that.
Or they don’t respect themselves in that situation. It’s a boundaries issue. They feel like because they know you and they like you that you owe them something. And it’s a difficult situation because I do owe them something, with Idol. They voted. If it weren’t for people out there voting for me, I wouldn’t have made it on the show. So I do owe them a lot of gratitude, I do. But I think that that's what I owe them -- gratitude. I don’t owe them to come join me for dinner when you’re coming up to me in this restaurant and I’m trying to eat. “No, you can’t sit down. No, you know what, I’m actually trying to eat dinner, can we take a picture another time?” It’s just about boundaries, and respect. It’s the one thing about being famous that’s difficult to adjust to.
What are you doing to stay sane? I haven’t been going out that much. And I miss it a little bit, but I’ve been busy. I was definitely a night owl before all this. And when I go out and do errands, I’m literally like, I’m going to put on a baseball cap and sunglasses so that I can just do my thing. It’s not that I don’t like people coming up to me or appreciate the genuine sentiment. I’d just like to be left alone a little bit. No one can prepare you for that.
Is that the thing that’s changed the most? Yeah. Because at the heart of me I’m the same guy doing the same thing on a larger scale. I’ve always been an entertainer. But it’s just, the lack of anonymity. It’s going to sell the album, but it takes away from your personal life. I wouldn’t have it any other way. I think it’s a fair trade. If that’s what I have to sacrifice for getting what I want, then fine.
How do you balance that mainstream success with having come from a community of performers who are much more underground? There are tracks on the album that are artier and weird and experimental. And there will be things on it that are more mainstream and commercial. I like both kinds of music. I understand why you have to have both kinds. It’s kind of like what Lady Gaga is doing. She has huge commercial success but what she’s doing is wild and out there. I think there’s so many different elements that go into a persona and entertainment. If one of my songs sounds commercial, hopefully I’ll be able to create a visual that’s different, to give it a whole new twist.
Do you feel a responsibility to do that? Yeah. Because I don’t want to be generic. I want to give people something to look at and talk about it. When I did “Ring of Fire,” which was a classic country song that I turned into this psychedelic Middle Eastern thing, I loved the way it turned out. And I loved what I was wearing. That was probably the most me, just as far as my taste goes and the kind of stuff I like. It was very Burning Man. And it was very polarizing. Some people loved it, and just as many people were like, "Ugh." I think there’s going to be some stuff on the album that does the same thing. And I hope that it does have a strong point of view. I don’t want to be bland. That is the last thing I want.
Are you worried about that? No. But the big business of the music industry, if it’s not navigated properly, can end up making you bland. It’s all about mass appeal.
Who are your biggest allies? The producers. Linda and I have had a lot of great conversations. Same with Greg Wells. They’re both very pro creative/artistic vision. Other allies are my friends that get it, that know. People that I did The Zodiac Show with. People that I’ve been performing with for years, that I did theater with. They get it. They get the line between integrity and commercialism. Big theater is like that. I was in Wicked! That’s a perfect example of a great piece of musical theater, but it’s also very, very finely constructed to have mass appeal to women, mostly. They knew their demographic. It’s totally calculated, but it is good. That’s kind of the way I look at what I’m trying to do. Something that does have mass appeal, and does have commercial appeal, and will be successful, but at the same time, it has quality. I definitely straddle the line -- I’m a business person, but I’m an artist.
How do you balance that yourself? How do you go home and chill out? It’s been hard because I don’t compartmentalize as well as I’d like to. So I tend to be thinking a lot about the music. But the relationship has been very helpful, as an escape in a way.
And you get to see each other enough? Yeah? I mean, we didn’t for a while because I was on tour. But now we’re in the same city. We’re both busy, but it’s definitely better.
You’ve talked in other interviews about how much falling in love for the first time changes you. It really does change you, though, you know? But this is only the second relationship I’ve had in my entire life, and I’m 27 years old.
What did you learn about yourself from the end of that first love? What you realize is that when you fall in love, especially for the first time -- the first major relationship that you have where you’re with somebody for a long time -- is how much of an impact somebody can have over you. And how much they can shift who you are, both in your own discovery of yourself and how they rub off on you a little bit. That was weird for me. I always thought of myself as extremely independent, and I do have a lot of independence about me. But when it comes to love, I have to fight codependence a little bit. I get a little clingy, I think, and it’s very out of character for me. So it becomes very confusing, because I’m like, wait, I’m usually fine. But all of a sudden, I’m like [waves hands] "Ahhhhh."
Like it’s easier to walk in and talk business. Oh yeah. That’s something I actually said to him yesterday. I said, "You know, it’s funny. I’ve figured out a lot about life, and I have a lot of life experience, but I don’t know shit about love."
What was the wall you hit with him? Sometimes it’s hard to, like, be a boyfriend for somebody, because you don’t know what that means. What does that mean? Especially if you haven’t been in many relationships. And being in the gay community, we don’t grow up with any role models for that. We don’t know what we’re supposed to be. And I think that’s funny because there’s so much -- again, it’s something that’s being evolved out of, but in the gay community there’s so much promiscuity. It’s socially accepted in the gay community to be promiscuous. It’s like, oh, we’re both men, we’re supposed to want to fuck all the time and cheat on each other. And it’s OK, open relationships are fine because we’re all men. And I’m not judging that, but I don’t think that’s for me. I don’t think it’s emotionally healthy.
Then you have to balance that with being away so much, being on tour. So who knows, you know? The other thing that’s really hard is that you have to decide whether or not you have the focus and the energy to give to the other person. That’s a difficult thing, too. And who knows what the future could hold with that. I might have to say, “You know, this is how much I love you, that I have to let you go. I can’t give you what you deserve right now, so this isn’t going to work.” Hopefully it works. I want it to. But we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it. Out of the love I have for him, I don’t want to neglect it. [Sighs.] God, I can’t believe I’m saying all this. I think we put all these expectations on relationships and create this idea of, oh, this is how it’s supposed to be, because this is what all these other relationships that I see, that’s how they are. I think it’s really hard but really necessary to be like, but what are my needs? And what are your needs? And that’s our relationship. And that’s the hardest thing, because no one tells you how to do that.
And you don’t have all these other models. Not that they necessarily fit so well for straight people. No, but there’s more of them. Even in the arts, a lot of art is about love and relationships, and there’s a lot of hetero art about it. But when it comes to the gay community, there’s just not a lot. And some of it’s so -- I have such a love-hate relationship with the concept. Like, I can only watch Logo for a couple minutes. It’s a little too --
Well, if it’s not good, it’s not good. Yes, if it’s not good, it’s not good. That’s the best way to put it. I think when you’re more impressionable it’s more important. Like, seeing gay movies was important when I was young. But they were horrible. It’d be nice to see a movie about gay people that was well acted.
What else do you want to talk about? I don’t know. [Long pause.] My job is to make this look easy and fun. That’s the illusion, the vibe I’m trying to create for people to feel. That’s what I want to do as an entertainer, create a mood that rubs off on people. This is scary, and it is a lot of work. And I’m OK, I’ll be fine. But, wow, this is a lot. And I hope that people are compassionate about that. I took a chance, stepped my life up a little, have some opportunities, have a little money, and I’m doing the best I can. I’m doing the best I fucking can, you know?
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Post by 4Ms on Sept 10, 2011 12:53:56 GMT -5
32. Krochmal, Shana Naomi. "An Open Letter Regarding an Open Letter to Adam Lambert"OUT Magazine: Popnography 17 November 2009 atop.proboards.com/post/90979/thread www.popnography.com/2009/11/an-open-letter-regarding-an-open-letter-to-adam-lambert.htmlShana Naomi responds to the hoopla over her boss' "Dear Adam" letter. [Editor's note: Already, in less than 24 hours, the incredible response to our interview with Adam Lambert -- and our Editor in Chief Aaron Hicklin's open letter to Adam -- has made a few things clear: 1) His fan base is awesomely, ferociously dedicated to the singer and 2) perhaps there is some confusion surrounding the intention and/or overall point of Hicklin's letter.
In an effort to shine a bit of a brighter light on the subject, the author of the interview with Lambert (Part One can be read here and Part Two can be read here), Shana Naomi Krochmal, penned the following to address some of the literally thousands of comments that have been already left all over the Internet regarding this story.]
Let's get the most obvious thing out of the way first: Yes, it is totally absurd to imagine that anyone thinks they can somehow control or manage how gay Adam Lambert seems on any given day. You've seen him, right? Maybe read an interview with him? That's exactly what I love about Adam, that in addition to being able to sing his face off (his words), he is defiantly, outrageously campy and queer -- and that he seems to have such a sense of humor about it, and a willingness to shake things up.
That said: Despite plenty of back and forth between the magazine and the label about the cover and the photo shoot, I still wasn't prepared for what happened when I showed up at the 19 Entertainment offices for the interview. I briefly met Adam, and then the publicist and I walked out to the balcony, at which point I was cautioned against making the interview "too gay," or, "you know, gay-gay." Specifically I was discouraged from asking about the March on Washington that upcoming weekend or other political topics. I pointed out the difference between the Advocate, Out's sister newsmagazine, and Out, which is more broadly a men's fashion and lifestyle book, but obviously made no promises one way or the other. It was pretty awkward, as if we were discussing two totally different people -- an Adam who doesn't seem to have any real filter when talking about his life or his opinions, and an Adam who could somehow be contained, made safe for mainstream America. When Adam joined us, the publicist left, and Adam and I sat down for a little over an hour on our own. You can read a transcript of Part One here and Part Two here. (It was very lightly edited, mostly to remove blathering set-up for questions on my part or redundant or vague discussion of an album that, in early October, didn't even contain a track listing.) He clearly has no trouble expressing himself on any issue, be it political, cultural, sexual or musical.
I still wish I'd been more surprised when I was met with such a ludicrous and offensive request. I am a journalist. I ask questions. Out is a magazine whose primary audience is gay men. Is anyone confused about that? I've been doing this for a long time and though I've been generically warned in a similar fashion before -- "let's make it upbeat and fun!" reps often say, or "just talk about the album/movie/TV show!" -- it's never been quite so egregious or with such an obvious expectation that I would comply.
When I filed my piece I included in the email what happened that day, and like Aaron's letter from the editor, it was full of anger. (Aaron at least has the excuse of being British, and in my experience when he's pissed off, everything he writes sounds more formal.) This is our profession, as much as Adam's is singing and entertaining. A decision to celebrate and respect that talent is why none of the circumstances surrounding the interview were mentioned in my piece within the actual portfolio.
I think Aaron's very right to point out that this scenario -- a pop star at this level out from the get-go -- is basically unprecedented. I've seen such striking change in even the last two or three years of how comfortable industry gatekeepers and their clients are in handling such new territory. We're witnessing a changing of the guard, and it's bound to overlap a bit in the middle, creating these strange moments where we work with both proudly out stars and their reluctant handlers, sometimes at odd with each other even when they have the same ultimate goals. I'm sorry it happened like this, too. But I'm looking forward to Adam Lambert having a long career, and to him proving every single one of us wrong in one way or another.
Right now I'm going to go back to what every other Adam fan is also doing today: listening to his album streaming on his MySpace page.
-- SHANA NAOMI KROCHMAL
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Post by 4Ms on Sept 10, 2011 12:54:13 GMT -5
33. Kuchwara, Michael. "Adam Lambert had a 'Wicked,' pre-'Idol' stage life."The Associated Press 17 May 2009 This AP story was carried, in whole or in part, by a multitude of sites. Here are a few: www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/may/17/us-tv-lambert-pre-idol-051709/?features&zIndex=100915www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9884TA80&show_article=1www.accesshollywood.com/adam-lambert-had-a-wicked-pre-idol-stage-life_article_18036www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2009/05/18/entertainment/doc4a117e8f789d0109856636.txtwww.gay.net/entertainment/2009/05/adam-lambert-wicked.html?cid=153054427english.sina.com/entertainment/2009/0517/241901.htmlInterview with "...casting guru, Bernard Telsey, who auditioned Lambert for 'Wicked.' NEW YORK — Before "American Idol" took over Adam Lambert's life, there was "Wicked," not to mention "The Ten Commandments" – yes, a musical version of the sand-and-sandals biblical epic. The 27-year-old favorite to take the "Idol" crown next Wednesday had a professional musical-theater background before he ever sang for Simon, Paula and the rest of the show's judges. Lambert did two stints in "Wicked," the mammoth musical prequel to "The Wizard of Oz" – joining the touring company in March 2005 and staying for six months, then opening in the extended Los Angeles production in February 2007 and remaining with the show until October 2008. For both engagements, he was a member of the ensemble and understudied the role of Fieryo, the show's love interest. Says casting guru, Bernard Telsey, who auditioned Lambert for "Wicked": "Adam was a theater guy. He came in and had that amazing voice or as I like to say 'instrument' because he has this incredible range.
"I literally remember saying, 'Oh my God, this guy has the highest range,'" said Telsey, who has cast such hit Broadway musicals as "Rent," "Hairspray" and the current revival of "South Pacific."
"And you are always looking for ensemble people who have a huge vocal range and vocal power," he said. "In an ensemble of only a handful of voices, you want that kind of a sound. It makes a show feel like there are 20 people in the ensemble as opposed to 10."At the time, Lambert didn't look David Bowie-esque, Telsey said. "He didn't look like a rock star. He looked like a normal kid with long hair, wearing jeans and a T-shirt and who had a big rock voice." What Lisa Leguillou remembers best about Lambert was his fearlessness. As the associate director of "Wicked" – in charge of keeping the show true to director Joe Mantello's original vision – she said, "I always got a sense that Adam was clear about what he wanted to do. "He talked about his music a lot with me and what he wanted to do with it in the future. He was clear about that – doing his own stuff, which was rock. And now he's doing it." And Lambert's singing is effortless, according to Leguillou. "That's what is so shocking. He just opens up his mouth. You never have to worry about him when he is on stage." In 2004, Lambert made a splash – or at least emerged unscathed – from "The Ten Commandments," a pop-rock opera (starring Val Kilmer as Moses) that had a brief run at the Kodak Theatre in Los Angeles. Reviews for the show were not kind. The New York Times called it "bland, static, overproduced and underdirected." The Los Angeles Times sniffed, "'The Ten Commandments' has the power to leave an epiphany-seeking theatergoer speechless." Yet Lambert, portraying the slave Joshua, was favorably noticed by both papers, with the New York reviewer even saying the performer was the show's "most consistent crowd-wower." For those wanting a look at a pre-"Idol" Lambert, his big number from the show – an anguished sob called "Is Anybody Listening?" – can, of course, be found on YouTube, or on a commercially available DVD.
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Post by 4Ms on Sept 10, 2011 12:54:41 GMT -5
34. Laidman, Brad. "American Idol's Adam Lambert: Balls of Steel!" Blogcritics 6 May 2009. blogcritics.org/video/article/american-idols-adam-lambert-balls-of/atop.proboards.com/thread/23/2009-adam-lamberts-ai-performances?scrollTo=90981&page=18In-depth review of Adam Lambert's outstanding performance on American Idol's rock music week. Adam Lambert-American Idol Top 4 Whole Lotta love
This Adam Lambert thing has really started to disturb me. I mostly watch American Idol as a guilty pleasure, but this guy is seriously starting to make me question my sexuality and my rock edge. The best way to make someone think you are a completely uncool loser is to tell them that you saw a megastar last night on American Idol. How do I tell my friends that I blew off the first half of my hometown Cleveland Cavaliers playing in the playoffs to watch a glammed out, proudly homosexual cabaret singer lay waste to our best memories of Robert Plant and Elvis Presley? And now I’m so wired up by it, I’m blowing off the second half to write about it. Was Adam Lambert really in the bottom two last week on American Idol? It was shocking and hard to believe, but my first inclination was abject depression that perhaps it was a wake up call. Perhaps America wasn’t ready for the overly dramatic, over the top androgynous chaos of Adam Lambert after all. There’s little doubt in my mind that Lambert wants to win this competition. Surely, he’d be forced to dial it down this week. The fact that it was going to be Idol’s first rock week made the thought of Lambert hiding his true self even more depressing. I mean, if Lambert has the Bill O’Reillys of the world freaked out at the image he’s been throwing out to the world on Idol, imagine what he’d think of the glittery six-inch platform shoes and skin-tight leather outfit that anyone who has been paying attention knows that Lambert really wants to be wearing. Imagine my delight, when exactly the opposite happened. I should have never doubted the man that Paula Abdul called the “bravest contestant in Idol history.” I’m not exactly sure how you tone down Adam Lambert, but certainly coming out in Elvis ’68 black leather to take on the ultra-histrionic Robert Plant’s most histrionic vocal performance isn’t the way to do it. Are you kidding me? The amount of balls it takes to appropriate that Presley look, stance, and sneer to add a whole lotta makeup and sing Led Zeppelin’s “Whole Lotta Love” is earth-shatteringly, mind-bogglingly ballsy. Idol judges are fond of telling their contestants to stay away from the Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey numbers. Well, everyone knows that you don’t mess with Robert Plant. Unless Lambert just blew this thing completely out of the water (and he did!), he’d not only look completely ridiculous, he’d probably cause major riots and looting in our inner cities. You just don’t go there, do you? Was that really Slash up there endorsing Lambert’s performance? I’ve got to believe that Led Zeppelin is holy ground for Saul Hudson. Did he really just say that he’d normally never consider being on this less than hard rock cool show, but there were a couple of artists that he really wanted to get a chance to work with? I’m going to go way out on a ledge and guess that the former Guns ‘N Roses guitarist wasn’t there to work with Danny Gokey. Let’s instead note that Slash is currently part of a super group, Velvet Revolver, desperately looking for a new lead singer and it's obvious to everyone with a brain that Adam Lambert can blow! Do I really have the guts to go all Jon Landau “I’ve seen the history of rock and roll and his name is …” to the explosion of androgynous thunder and lightning that was the opening of last night’s show? Hell no, I’m no Adam Lambert, but there was Slash sitting proudly in the audience putting his reputation on the line. God, help me ever having any credibility again. I’m raving about someone appearing on a show where one of the judges (Kara - Miss “Studio 57” Malaprop, herself) faulted one of the singers (Danny Gokey, who was left gasping in the dust trying to out-scream Lambert) for choosing to sing “Dream On” rather than an “earlier Aerosmith” song, by naming two songs that band did over a decade later! My mother felt it was unfair that Lambert got to both open and close the show (an electric duet with Alison Iraheta on Foghat’s “Slow Ride,” where he seemed to libidinously and brazenly encourage the 17-year-old further out onto the ledge, which should probably be illegal in most of the South). My response was that it was unfair that Lambert is 1000 times more talented and charismatically fascinating than the three other poor saps that had to try and follow what could conservatively be called a looting of everything that has historically been the American Idol franchise. At the top of the show America’s favorite Dick Clark wannabe, Ryan Seacrest, pointed out that dress rehearsal had to be skipped due an unforeseen collapse of one of the show’s promotional towers. From my point of view, the producers of the show should be happy that Lambert’s epic assault didn’t cause the whole roof to collapse, killing everyone fortunate enough to be there to see it. Yes, I just said that. Here's the truth by far — the gayest part of last night’s show was poor Kris Allen and Danny Gokey teaming up to bring us some Styx, which is pretty amazing when you consider that Lambert isn’t hiding his sexuality like Clay Aiken did. There isn’t going to be a “Yes, it’s true, I’m gay” People magazine cover in Adam Lambert’s future. Lambert’s cover is more likely to say, “Please, weren’t you paying any attention?” For anyone with any remaining doubt, check out the back of this Upper Deck American Idol trading card where Lambert lists his hero as gay icon Harvey Milk. Yes, all of my “cool” friends are mocking me right now. Thankfully, I have Green Day’s Billie Joe Armstrong on my side. “That kid that's on there — Adam — hitting those high notes?” Armstrong told AOL’s Spinner.com. “Pretty badass, man.” Pretty, badass – indeed. I was just catching up on some threads from the past few days, and someone posted that old article from Brad Laidman... on Rock Week when Adam sang WLL. Some of the comments were too friggin' hilarious...
"Don't worry Brad. I'm a 39 year old happily married woman, and I want to jump Adam's bones too."
"I'm glad I'm not the only one who just can't get enough of this guy. It feels a little crazy to be this hyped up about him, but he REALLY IS THAT GOOD!! Like "what the HELL?!?" kinda good. I mean, the kid's gotten standing ovations from badass Simon Cowell and both Smokey Robinson and Berry Gordy, for cryin' out loud! Every week he DELIVERS the goods, and his appeal... androgynous, or however else you want to frame it, seems to work for everybody -- straight women who know he's gay, gay men, straight men who've never had a homo-erotic thought in their lives. It's called CHARISMA, folks, and he's overflowing with it. And then there's those pipes. Holey moley!!"
"Hey, that was a great article. Pretty much described everything I experienced when I first encountered this androgenous catch-me-if-you-can singing angel/fiend. But had to laugh when reading comments and found the one that blatantly said "we all want to fuck him". Loved it. One way or another we all do. It's how this "star" business works. Adam's the whole orgasmic package."
"I know that Elvis is dead and Adam is gay. I don't care, they both give me the chills. I'm just as nuts as you are, a closet case until I realized everybody was talking about Adam. I've talked with 80 year olds, my doctor and fellow mourners at a funeral about Adam. We can't help ourselves, we old folks haven't had this much excitement in our lives since Elvis sneered at us."
"My boyfriend told me last week he finds Adam Lambert "sexy in a totally non-homosexual way and "would do him if" he had to. What the hell?? I'm not even kidding LOL!!!! I didn't know whether to kiss him or merely be incredibly worried."
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Post by 4Ms on Sept 10, 2011 12:55:09 GMT -5
35. Lambert, Eber. "True North Speech"Speech: True North Tavern, San Diego, CA 13 December 2009 Posted at AO: DECEMBER 15, 2009, 12:29 pm www.adamofficial.com/us/blog/true-north-tavern-12132009atop.proboards.com/post/90982/thread90982 [/a] www.sdpix.com/events/index.php?com=detail&eID=8427&month=12&year=2009Eber Lambert talks about raising his sons, mostly about Adam. Thanks Junior. Thanks to everyone for coming out today. Thanks to everyone that helped organize this fund raiser and the toy drive. I’m still not sure who the Stunnas are and what they do exactly but thanks to them as well.
First of all - according to the agenda I’m scheduled to talk for a half an hour. I’m certain if that were the case everyone would be shuffling over to the Pink Elephant by 5 after and open a tab and continue to watch the game. So I’ll try not to bore you to death.
So hello my name is Eber Lambert. The only reason I am up here is that my ex-wife and I raised two sons: Adam Lambert the singer trying to break into the top 40 and Neil Lambert the politically outraged writer trying to break into media. We did all this in a bizarre corner of the world known as North County Suburban San Diego.
Now one thing I’m well aware of is that many of you are saying to yourself not only who the hell is this guy. But who the hell is Adam Lambert. Which is understandable. I still am surprised at the variation in responses by the general public.
During jury duty selection last summer, I was up for the role of prospective juror #5. I was answering the list of questions they give you which included identifying family members and occupations. I said I have two sons, one an entertainer in LA and one unemployed in NYC. The lawyer made me clarify that the description entertainer in this case meant singer. The Judge interrupted and asked if I was Adam Lambert’s dad which surprised not only me but the poor defense lawyer doing the questioning who clearly had absolutely no clue who Adam Lambert was.
So it goes from the extreme of me being incredulously recognized at the gas station as a result of my amassed total of 38secs on national television to people saying whats American Idol?
But most people at least know about American Idol. Though if you are like I was a little over a year ago, you might not know what it is. When Adam called me in sept 08 and told me he had to quit his job to go on American Idol my response was “youre gonna quit your job to go on a game show?”.
My prime time TV viewing tappered off to nearly zero somewhere around 2001. He explained that it was the biggest show on TV and that if he did well he would start making money 9 months later. To which I responded …”How exactly do you plan to live without income for 9 months?” As you can imagine as father-son phone conversations go, this one went down hill quickly. But it all worked out.
But if Adam wasn’t my son, its safe to say I would be among those of you out there looking at each other saying who the hell is this guy and I certainly wouldn’t be the guy up here explaining to you why I’m the guy up here.
Theres some of you that may not have heard about Adam until the recent fiasco with the American Music Awards. And if you are not up on what happened at the AMAs a few weeks ago allow me to give you a brief run down.
Apparently in addition to the Grammys, the Billboard music awards, the People Choice Awards and the MTV music awards there is a need for something called the American Music awards. And after 3hours of primetime televised performances, most with suggestive, occasionally bleeped out lyrics, accompanied by racy and scantily clad choreography, crotch grabbing, all sorts of variants of dry humping, smashing whiskey bottles on a piano, throwing a mic stand thru a plate glass window then lighting another piano on fire, it’s a family show.
Adam closed the show with a performance that included Adam briefly pulling a male dancers face into his crotch , fondling several female dancers and french kissing his male bass player. As you might expect this created a minor media firestorm for the next few weeks.
Popular music and choreography has been focusing on sex for along time, describing it in detail, alluding to it, euphemizing it and simulating sex for 40 years but apparently televising a man pulling another mans head to his crotch for a few seconds and kissing another man is a serious transgression in the sordid world of pop music.
Kids might be watching people say. There was an FCC obscenity complaint filed by a conservative east coast religious group. ABC cancelled scheduled appearances of Adam on several other shows.
It amazes me in 2009 how much concern we have to exposing kids to sex and sexuality even in its reasonably benign forms. Even in positive forms. That’s not to say any of what happened at the AMAs was either benign or particularly positively displayed. Or for that matter in particularly good taste. Everyone has an opinion here.
Yet violence in its various forms, most far from benign, has long been accepted on prime time television, movies and video games. Eight of the top ten video games are rated as very violent. If Adam had pulled out a toy gun and simulated blowing the dancer away, there wouldn’t have been so much as a peep in the media the next day.
Some would respond that violence on TV and in video games doesn’t make kids violent or accepting of violence – a dubious argument considering the millions of advertising dollars spent drilling jingles and corporate catch phrases into our subconscious- but if that is true,if violence on TV doesnt have a major negative affect , then whats the big deal with kids seeing sex and sexuality portrayed on TV?
Just to assure you I’m not going off on a rant, this does tie directly into the event here tonight. When Junior first approached me about speaking here. He explained that the event was made up of various SD sports groups , all culturally diverse organizations, and connected with the Toys for Kids drive from the Gay Lesbian Center/Imperial Court. All brought together with the goal : Bring some holiday cheer to less fortunate kids and raise money for a charter school serving for kids from Low Income families. He didn’t even have to guilt me that much. How can you say no to supporting something like this? Here I thought when he showed up at the front door he was going to b**** about me always stealing his parking spot. I agreed and he gave me the flyer. Version 1 of about 7 I think. Junior is nothing if not prolific.
But then a couple days later he called explaining that the school was concern about an affiliation with the Gay Lesbian Center and that may cause problems with the board.. The school was fine with the donation but not the affiliation. So the next version of the flyer had to have all mention of the gay and lesbian center removed.
This is where our society is right now. Here you have a Gay & Lesbian organization doing some very cool charitable efforts. Contributing to the community in the most positive way imaginable. Supporting schools. You cannot get more community oriented than that. Many associated with the Gay and Lesbian organization are parents themselves. But the stigma still exists.
My hope is that as we go into 2010 and leave this decade we don’t have a name for yet… what is it the ones? The 0’es, the ands?? Whatever we decide to call it, hopefully going forward we’ll see this latest version of instituted bigotry continue to fade away.
And fortunately another school came along, Memorial Prep School in Barrio Logan, they welcome the support of the Gay Lesbian Center and all of the other organizations represented here tonight. And the kids at Memorial will benefit in more ways than one.
So Junior wanted me to talk a little about raising Adam and Neil. This brings us to another irony. Here I am talking about my kids to the members of SD American Football league the SD Tennis Federation and SD Hoops league when the only family members ever interested in sports were me and a yellow lab named Maggie.
Maggie was a huge fan of tennis balls. I use to play basketball at work a few days a week back in the 80s but only because I was usually needed in to even the teams.
But I tried to get the kids involved in the suburban sports scene. T-Ball, Soccer. I believe even to this day I am the only parent coach on record at the Poway Kids Indoor Soccer facility that can boast back to back 0-11 seasons. I was the bad news bears coach for a group of 7and 8year olds. All the other teams had played together for months, I had all the new kids, a couple with coke bottle glasses and inhalers, one who had recently lit his family garage on fire, basically we were Team Ritalin.
This was about 20 years ago so I’m guessing by now a couple of my best players are now either nonathletic geeks in well paying desk jobs or coming up for parole somewhere. Perhaps both.
Adam made a noble attempt at sports. He understood the concept of Tball but was always happiest when sitting on the bench. Same with soccer. Although my memory of Adam playing soccer is limit to him and another kid checking out a catapillar while the rest of the kicking cluster had the ball 30 yards down field. That and his only career goal at indoor soccer where he kicked the ball and the 40lb girl playing goalie holding the ball into the net.
It counted in our house.
At the end of each introductory season I would ask him if he had fun and if he wanted to do it again. The answer was always a pleasant no not really and no. Fortunately at age 9 he discovered the sport of musical theatre.
Neil lasted a few more seasons at Tball/league and soccer. But by age of 8 gave up organized sports for Video games and Piano lessons where he accelled at both . So sports to him became regularly kicking my ass at Madden Football on Playstation. He also join the theatre group and it really became our regular family Saturday social event.
Watching sports on TV was left to me and the dog enduring a miserable existence as life long Raider fans. Although even the dog gave up on the Raiders when they signed Jeff George.
But I guess that is our jobs as parents. To expose our kids to team sports or whatever group activities and see what takes. There is that delicate balance between pushing them enough to get them across the threshold of being good enough to enjoy it and pushing them too hard, too much and creating a problem. That’s the tough part. Finding that balance.
You go to any T-ball or youth soccer game in north county and you’ll see at least one parent thats pushing way too hard. But you’ll also see hundreds doing it right. Kids building self esteem and learning teamwork and discipline. And that’s whats youth sports is all about.
The other thing that Junior asked me to touch on, and I get asked this a lot from friends, is about being the parent of a gay child. I think this is another thing that’s in transition in our society. You hear about parents freaking out when their kids come out. Some parents need various amounts of time to adjust.
I think as time goes on and there more exposure and acceptance of the gay and lesbian community, and healthy relationships. This will continue to be less of a stigma for parents. My ex Wife and I were fortunate to have a couple of gay friends that we could consult with on how to navigate the coming out process. This was our issue. We really didn’t know if we were suppose to approach him or just give him space and let him tell us when he was ready. We were told the latter.
Teenage years are angst ridden as it is, throw in the additional struggle with ones sexuality, and non supportive/understanding parents and it can be down right evil. So thats my advice to parents talk to your gay friends, if you don’t have any find some, go to places like the Gay&Lesbian center which I think my ex-wife did at one point. But also trust your instincts. Realize its ok. That its all about love. And love is never a bad thing. Especially in this world.
Any parents of kids that are coming out as hard right conservative Republicans. I got nothing. You have my complete and total sympathy. I hear there been some success with deprogramming centers but its hit and miss…Its tragic really.
By the time Adam was around 14 I was pretty sure he was going to be batting left - just trying to stay with tonights sports theme. Actually I confirmed this when I discovered he was going to some gay porn sites on the family computer. That history icon can be a double edge sword.
When I told Leila, she thought maybe he might have just been curious until I explained to her that there isnt a heterosexual 14yo male on the planet that would surf thru gay porn for 2 hours. Especially with a sea of hetero porn just a few mouse clicks away.
So I delicately explained to Adam that it was ok to be curious but to be careful that his little brother didn’t find out and showed him how to clear the history. Neil and Adam were in the final few years of all out brotherly warfare and did not get along at all. I spent much of the mid 90s breaking up fights around the house. I figured an 11 year old totally outsized by his older brother with the gay bomb suddenly added to his arsenal could get pretty ugly.
A few years later Neil matured and understood and we all patiently waited together for Adam to come out. When he finally did come out at 19 I got big kudos from him for the Porn incident which I had all but forgotten but clearly he hadnt. And although he still went thru his struggle with sexuality, there was this never again spoken assurance that whereever he ended up, I would be ok with it.
With Neil it wasn’t sexuality, it was navigating through struggles with peer pressure and drug and alcohol use. On this one as a parent you toe the line of being credible and understanding and setting limits vs just being a dick, punishing and lecturing. Then going downstairs and having a beer or a few glasses of wine and shrugging off the hypocrisy.The trick here was not to bulls*** him. Kids can always see through bulls***.
For me Neil’s issues were much harder than Adams sexuality. Adam in High School was a piece of cake when it came to drugs since his clique was mostly Morman girls from the Chorus and Drama club. Although thank god for his orientation because some of those morman girls were got pretty wild their senior year.
And this comes back to the sports thing. And whether its sports, or art and drama clubs, music groups or whatever the group activity outside the classroom is. There needs to be a positive peer team function to build socialization and acceptance, tolerance and understanding of other people.
And this why its really scary that school budgets are pinched for whatever the reason and that these programs are getting cut. Last summer when Adam was on tour , he had fans sending him clothes and jewelry, some of this stuff was pretty expensive. Fortunately he hooked up with an organization called Donorschoose.org whose charter is to raise funds and get donations to sustain art programs in underfunded schools. He was really excited about that and his fans latched on to it as well and in a few months raised a quarter million for the organization. I know he’s very proud of that.
I think sports in schools is going to be in the same boat soon but fortunately there is a lot of independent sports organizations available for families. Unfortunately not for all families.
When Junior told me that the folks here tonight were going to be from Sports organizations and the Gay Lesbian Center. At first I thought it was an odd combination. But when I thought about it I thought that actually it’s a natural pairing. Sports in our culture has always been on the leading edge of civil rights.
In the early days of baseball and football, this is where bigotry against certain religions and nationalities were diminished, Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans segregated in cities came together is sports. In the 50s and 60s pro sports integrated African American and Hispanic players and later Asian players. I read somewhere that there are currently 1700 players and field coaching personnel in the NFL. Which means just from the population that there is easily 100-150 gay men in the NFL if not much more. Yet no openly gay players exist. You could do the same math with the NBA or MLB.
Because as you all know, in sports it doesn’t matter what race or ethnicity you are, your religion, your orientation usually not even your gender, you just need to show up and bring it. That’s all that matters. Play the game.
So I think and hope in the next few years we’ll see pro sports once again be a pace setter in civil rights. This would be pretty cool.
And it would take some of the burden off of the open gay pop singers in the world.
Before Junior yanks me off the stage I just want to put in a quick plug for any creative writers or poets in the crowd. I want to plug an open mic that I have down at Rebeccas on the third tues of every month at 7-9 and for those who like flash fiction – 3 minute short stories read by the author I recommend checking out DimeStories.org run by my highly significant other Amy Wallen who also hosts a prose open mic the first Friday of every month at the Ruby Room in Hillcrest.
Thank you for listening and thanks for supporting the kids and Memorial prep.
Eber Lambert posted the FULL TEXT of his speech here: www.adamofficial.com/us/blog/true-north-tavern-12132009
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Post by 4Ms on Sept 10, 2011 12:55:34 GMT -5
36. Lambert, Neil. "A Trip to the Land of Locusts" Negative Neil Blog 01 January 2009 atop.proboards.com/post/90983adam-lambert.org/neil-lambert-adam-lamberts-brother/www.bloglovin.com/en/blog/769243/negative-neiladamlambertfans4lifeNeil blogs about life in general and occasionally his brother, Adam Lambert.
A Trip to the Land of Locusts by Neil on Jan.01, 2009 Talkin’ about L.A. there, but I wanted to be all cryptic and well read. I’m going to visit my brother there. On Thanksgiving we had this spectacular blowout of an argument. You know those arguments you get into which start off innocently enough: “Could you pay attention to the directions so we don’t get lost?” “I don’t know. COULD YOU EVER MANAGE TO INTERACT WITH HUMAN BEINGS ON A BASE LEVEL THAT DOESN’T MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE A FUCKING SHITHEEL?” Surprisingly enough, I was the one with the mild shot across the bow and he was the one reducing me to splinters. So it turned into us trading blows for the sole purpose of cutting the deepest. He totally won, which sucked. Since then we’ve made amends and this will be our first test run of our not being dicks in each other’s presence since Thanksgiving. I’m anxious to see how it goes, though I’m pretty sure it’ll be fine. #1 written by Unca Dave January 8, 2009 - 9:09 am Reply Quote Yo Neil, Tally: 2 not 1 you dumb fuck. Or does "fuck" count as 1 and "fucking" count as another 1 in your fucking blog and btw...fuck you - you fucking fuck for not writing what a wonderful drunken stupor of a time you had at your sweet but lecherous Unca Dave's house while you were telling me how to fucking point my fucking remote at the fucking television, how to fucking wake you up and how to fucking not wake you up, and to fucking having to listen to you repeatedly stating in the most sarcastic fucking way fucking uttered by any fucking human fucking being on the fucking planet, what a fucking wonderful fucking time you were fucking having as you fucking sneered with fucking vapid vapids at your stupid fucking fuck of an iPod game or whatever it fucking was that you were staring at the fucking entire time you were at my fucking house eating tons of the best turkey and stuffing ever made on the fucking planet over Thanksgiving when you were not fucking fighting with Adam. I Love you, Unca Dave ********************************************************************************************************LA Day 1 by Neil on Jan.02, 2009 I slept in a tent last night. In LA. It turns out that upon leaving Santa Cruz, that nagging feeling I kept having that I had forgotten something was not for nothing. About an hour into the drive I slapped my forehead, gripped by the realization that my sleeping bag and pillow were sitting safely at home. So I slept in a tent at a friend’s house in her backyard. I should be clear: “tent” connotes some sort of squalor but I would venture to call this a luxury tent. It had electical outlets. Laptop, desk lamp, music, and my favorite: tons of blankets that her cat had seemingly lounged upon all day. So obviously my allergic response was potent. I made it through the night. Now I’m on my way, to meet Adam at his house. I have no idea where I’ll be sleeping tonight. Maybe I won’t sleep? I don’t know. I think at some point I’m just going to give in and get a hotel room to make my life a lot easier. ____________________________________________________ LA Day 2 by Neil on Jan.02, 2009 I get a ride to Adam’s apartment to find out that we have completely miscommunicated. He is waiting for me at another location. No problem, I think, I’m in an adventurous mood. I’ll just kinda…. walk around Hollywood and wait for him to show up. Adam informs me that there is a public library somewhere in the East. Perfect. So I set out, imagining myself an explorer with walking stick in hand. During my trek in search of the library I pass a house with a sign out front: “Psychic Readings: Tarot Cards of the Past, Present, and Future” First off, that’s some poor presentation, Miss Chloe. By your wording I’m thinking you own a Tarot card museum. You should have been able to predict that many of your fellow citizens would be similarly confused. That you didn’t is the first indication that you are a bad psychic. Moreover, the entire house has bars on the windows and doors. Sooo, I’m going to pay you to read my fortune when you can’t even sense premonitions of impending breaking and entry at your home? No, not convinced. I think of going in, but ultimately choose to save the $15 it will cost to make this post more interesting. I walk on, plodding my way through the urban wilderness in search of my true destination. Along the way I see a Scientology Library across the street. Christ, I hope this isn’t the library Adam had in mind. Again, I briefly entertain the notion of entering the library: “I’m here to research the study of science? I’m pretty sure I’m in the right place.” They’ve probably heard that one before. Maybe I’d say, “My engrams are, like, totally disrupting my destiny. I… I had a very loud birth,” while stifling some unexpected tears. Again, probably been done. Once again I move on in search of my true destination. I finally find the library and silently rejoice. Of course I go straight for the Science Fiction section. Fahrenheit 451 instantly catches my eye. Hell yes! I’m ashamed to admit to not having read this book until now. Well, dear readers, that will quickly be remedied. I manage to get through one chapter before Adam arrives. It was good. It was really good, in fact, and every time I read something that exudes that level of quality right off the bat I think, “I should write. Not with the intent of contributing anything to the literary world, but because this author so obviously receives such pleasure from arranging words in the way that he does. I’m sure there are untold pleasures that await me if I put a pen to paper, too.” But then Adam, or anyone else really, appears and my train of thought breaks. Suddenly I find myself riding around in his friend’s car petting her dog, Attila, and the inspiration evaporates. This happens to me quite frequently in many facets of my life: music, writing, pretty much anything creative. I always find myself content to observe, analyze, comment. It’s… hollow. What’s the point of living if you don’t create anything. And then through some sheer luck or perhaps something more, I recall the quote at the beginning of Fahrenheit: Don’t think. Thinking is the enemy of creativity. It’s self-conscious, and anything self-conscious is lousy. You can’t try to do things. You simply must do things. - Ray Bradbury I know it sounds fleeting, but I think there’s a lot to learn from that. I’m going to attempt to live in this fashion more often. ____________________________________________________ Leaving Los Angeles by Neil on Jan.05, 2009 I can’t recall exactly when the end of my LA trip begins. Adam and I sit around on Saturday brainstorming potential songs he could sing. It’s funny: when we were kids, Adam annoyed the hell out of me when he sang along to songs on the radio. A song will play and he’ll sing along, oftentimes wildly improvising on what the artist recorded. I guess I always thought of it as a way to show off or compete with the singer to prove he is better than whoever is on the recording. He usually is. But in his apartment, I realize that Adam does this whether anyone is watching or not. Improvising helps him decide how he will sing it when someone is watching. Now I listen to him wail and I smile instead of cringe. I see in that private space the same side of him that I see in myself when I put on my favorite tracks and pluck out some notes along to it on my keyboard, alone in my room. It is for no one’s sake but my own. We talk about unrequited love and his thoughts on the subject. He says things about his current situation that I said in that very same apartment two years previous. Sunday is spent waiting for my ride back to Santa Cruz to arrive. I’m supposed to have breakfast with my friend Maggie but we mutually flake on each other. We speak on the phone instead, catching up on the last few months. I’m reminded why we became friends in the first place. When I was 13, I had a friend who was 24. I did not find this strange. In fact, at the time, she was the only friend I had any genuine fun with. I don’t know if it was because I was an old soul or because she was young at heart, it must be a mixture of both. We drifted apart when I became an angsty teen, though I am happy to say we are friends once more even if it is currently peripheral. Now she is 34, a mother. I’m 24, some guy. We speak on the phone as if nothing has changed except that my brother may or may not be imminently famous and I may or may not be moving to another country. It is a rare thing to have a friend purely because the two of you have compatible personalities and not because you both work together, or because you are both in college or in the same city. Sometimes the most important friends are friends with seemingly nothing in common. Sometimes the best brothers are brothers that have nothing in common until you spend a weekend with them. ____________________________________________________ My brother is on American Idol today by Neil on Jan 20, 2009 My brother Adam is going to be on American Idol Season 8. Perhaps I’m biased, but I think he should win. It’s already a done deal, really. The rest of them should just go home. A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N I-D-O-L contains the word ‘Adam’ first of all, and unless there’s a guy competing this year named Ericn Iol, I really think that he’s got this thing locked up. Plus, the world greets Obama and Adam on the same day. Coincidence? Not a chance. I encourage all of you (5 people who read this) to watch at 8pm PST on Fox. It’s gonna to be grand. Feel free to add your comments about his performance to this post so I can ride his coattails to e-fame. I’m a social network climber, big deal. ____________________________________________________ Sayounara Japan by Neil on Jan.28, 2009 Last night the Embassy of Japan’s website was updated with information about who is scheduled for an interview for the JET program. I am not on the list. Yes, I checked it twice (three times in fact. Once this morning just in case I was dreaming). The myriad of reasons my application was not selected aren’t worth ruminating upon. I’ll never know why I was rejected because they don’t send a letter explaining the decision. Well, Japan? You think all your applicants know what “ruminate” means? Fuck you. It’s like Japan broke up with me last night. We were going strong, so I thought. I mean, sure, I hadn’t heard from her in a while but I didn’t sense any tension last time we spoke on the phone. We were going to move in together in August, but I guess that’s what you get for planning too far ahead. She called last night to say, “Neil. Look, it’s you not me. I’m actually seeing 2,478 other guys right now. I don’t really care that they know how to properly use ‘ruminate’ in a sentence. I don’t even know how to use it in a sentence. Don’t call me, I’ll call you. Actually I won’t. Bye.” So I shed some tears after realizing the full weight of our breakup. Particularly vexing is the embarassment I’ll have to endure when my friends ask, “How’s Japan doing? When are you moving in with her?” I’ll have to reply that, despite my talking about her all the time, we actually weren’t in a relationship. We went on a date once, that’s it, and I didn’t even get a kiss goodnight. But this whole time I’d been bragging to them about how we slept together. Surprisingly, the bitterness hasn’t kicked in yet, just the disappointment. I guess I’m still in denial. When it does, though, you’ll know. Now this website has no future purpose which I guess is fitting considering I don’t either. Now I’m just some college kid (not so) fresh from graduation with no plan, no short-term goal. Don’t worry, dear readers, I’m going to attempt to find a silver lining to all this. Perhaps now I’m better equipped for some serious fraternal coattail riding? I can ride those babies all the way through August, hopefully. I’m free to find a better job now, knowing I won’t be leaving in July. Whatever that near future happens to be, Japan now has nothing to do with it. What should I do instead? I’m pretty open to suggestions at this point. ____________________________________________________ Seasonal Disorder by Neil on Apr.10, 2009: This morning I woke up and everything was gorgeous. After half a week of miserable, rainy weather, I was pleased to see sunlight glinting off of the assorted glass containers strewn across my desk. It wasn’t just nice weather though, it was incredible weather. Two birds were fucking on my windowsill extolling this particularly glorious Friday. There was a hint of pine in the air. God himself appeared to me in a sunbeam and said, “Stop masturbating, Neil, and listen to me. I exist, and I want you to walk with me along the beaches of Santa Cruz while I explain the intricacies of the universe to you.” “Sorry God,” I said. “My boss pays the bills around here, not you, and I unfortunately have to work. Besides, I’m sure the weather will be beautiful over in San Jose.” 30 minutes later I’m half way over the mountains encased in fog. The entire day was a miserable, rainy mess. Fuck my life. ____________________________________________________ “Take it all in, Neil” by Neil on Apr.23, 2009 Lately I’ve been getting comments from people on here, via email, and real life and they all say the same thing: “Your life has forever changed because of American Idol. Take it all in, Neil! It’s gonna be a wild ride!” My first reaction is to roll my eyes. I don’t feel any different, it’s just that my only sibling is a nationwide sensation at the moment. Also, why must I “take it all in”? If my life is changed forever, won’t there be taking-in time later on? Can’t I just take it in gradually instead of all at once? Why spoil it, you know? Lately, though, I’ve begun to wonder. Perhaps my life has changed. Maybe I just don’t realize it which is why I don’t feel any different. So, today I decided to put this whole “your life has changed” premise to the test: This morning I woke up for work just like normal. Besides a bit of extra drowsiness, I felt no different. Pulling on my clothes and brushing my teeth felt the same, my slightly disproportionate gut didn’t look any smaller, and my new haircut from last weekend still looked dorky. “It’s all in how you carry yourself, Neil,” I told myself. Nodding my head in agreement, I hopped in the car. And that’s when it began. Cars seemed to part for me. Pedestrians scrambled over themselves to allow me the right of way. They shook their fists in praise of my awesome lineage. Other cars joined them, honking in agreement: Adam is talented, everyone loves him! You are related to Adam, everyone loves you! It’s simple logic, really, and I was suddenly a bit ashamed of having never though this way before. I eased onto the freeway, admiring all the Normal People going about their mundane lives. They will surely never get the opportunity to sit in the 5th row at a taping of the nation’s most popular television program simply because they followed one of the contestants out of the womb three years later! I could scarcely remember what it was like to live that way. So…. ordinary. Cop car. Shit. I guess nothing’s changed. OR HAS IT?! I repeated my mantra for the day, that fame and glory are a state of mind. I stopped and the police officer followed suit. He approached my passenger side. “License and registration, please.” “Of course, officer,” I said while I shot him a cool and collected smile. He has no idea, of course, that I’ve been taking it all in for the whole morning and I am, naturally, a changed man. I continue to smile. The officer shoots me a quizzical stare while double checking the name on my I.D. “Are you…?” I didn’t want him to have to embarass himself. We both knew how that sentence was going to end: “…related to Adam Lambert?” Why not save him the trouble? “Yes. Yes I am. Is there a problem, officer?” I beamed at him. So this is what it’s like, being indirectly famous. Life is good! Soon this cop would be stumbling over himself in apology. He had no idea who the fuck I was. I decided this time I would be merciful. After a lengthy and frankly uncomfortable Field Sobriety Test, I realized my mistake. Do not finish police officer’s sentences for them. I can guarantee you that the end of their sentence, 99 times out of 100, is “…drunk?” and not “…Adam Lambert’s brother?” Lesson learned: you are not cool. If complete strangers on the internet assume that your life is radically changing but you aren’t seeing the effects, that’s because your life is not radically changing. It’s not because you somehow managed to be unobservant over the course of the last few months, it’s because you are still lame. It’s a tough pill to swallow, but I’m glad it happened sooner rather than later.
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Post by 4Ms on Sept 10, 2011 12:55:54 GMT -5
36.B Lambert, NeilFriday, June 19, 2009 Link to this post: atop.proboards.com/post/90984/threadAdam Lambert's brother blogs about Kris Allen and Michael Sarver Copied from here: adamlambert411.blogspot.com/2009/06/adam-lamberts-brother-blogs-about-kris.html Adam’s brother Neil Lambert blogged at Something Awful dot com during the Idol competition. Below is what Neil said about Kris; Kris’ win; American Idol; Michael Sarver; and why Adam didn’t talk about his sexuality on the show:
Before the Finale:
- I like Kris. I wish him luck and I’ll just let the chips fall where they may.
- What a day! I’m simply beside myself for a Kris vs. Adam finale. My family and I had dinner at the same restaurant as Kris’ and we kept running into them and showing each other how we were voting for the other family’s kid. It was adorable. His family are all really sweet people and I’m not at all pissed if he ends up winning the whole thing. That said, vote for Adam .
I was determined to not have Adam lose to Gokey, but I don’t mind if Kris wins simply because he was such an underdog and so obviously talented. I just wish the finale could have been a 3-way competition between Kris, Allison, and Adam.
Adam will be fine no matter what. He’s got a lot of people knocking on his door. Besides the shame of having someone as lame as Gokey beating him, it might even be better for him to get 2nd. Like I said, no matter what happens, i’m happy with the outcome.
Kris Allen’ Win:
Oh the sadness! Middle America kicked our rear end. But all’s not lost, Adam’s in good hands and has quite a few people knocking on his door. Slash thinks he’s awesome and wants to collaborate. So he’ll be fine. Kris and his family are nice, genuine people. Even if they were somewhat fueled by people voting simply for the Christian guy, I’m happy for them. He’s talented, so it’s not like it was a complete mugging.
I got a bit sour grapes too, and had to keep reminding myself that this outcome is the best possible outcome. It was only a selfish pride thing that I wanted to see Adam win, but truthfully Kris needed the win and Adam didn’t. loving SLASH wants to work with him. Queen? Tons of producers. He’ll be fine.
The nerves finally hit me at the big reveal, but I wasn’t surprised. I mean, dialidol had informed me of their fate the night before. My mom was who I worried about, but she was ok too. The thing is, seeing the utter joy and complete shock from the Allens was really nice. After the show they were hugging and kissing their family and friends and it was simply wonderful. I’m very happy for them. Kris’ brother’s a good guy and we both occupied that my-brother-is-on-idol space so it was nice to watch him finish that journey. Kris’ father’s name is Neil as well, so I have a special affection for him too. And hell, Kris is talented. Like I’ve always said, the only thing that would have sent me flying into a rage would have been a Gokey victory. Plus, who ****ing cares who won? My brother just sang on stage with QUEEN AND KISS. I don’t think he could have been happier. The entire show, actually, was pretty damned entertaining. The afterparty was good too.
American Idol:
The production staff are all very nice people, the contestants for the most part are cool. The only thing I hate is the audience. Not those of us that sit around and simply talk/make fun. I’m talking about the incessantly screaming tweens. I had to sit on the set of American Idol Extra to watch Adam’s exit interview and I couldn’t handle it. I actually left and went around the corner to have a drink with Adam’s/Allison’s hair stylist and a former Idol contestant, much to Mom’s chagrin. Perhaps I’ve never been a 12 year old girl (perhaps), but I just don’t understand the idea of screaming someone’s name in a vain effort to get their attention instead of actually listening to what they’re saying or paying attention to the show. Great, you’re having fun. But it’s at everyone’s expense. These are the people that fuel idol for the most part and for that reason I’m glad Adam didn’t win. Perhaps I sound really arrogant here but I think he’s bigger than this show. I want him to do bigger things than this.
Michael Sarver:
I’d love to throw a rock at Sarver, though. He’s a dick. Gokey seemed like he was just joking… [Atozinco Note: in a video that Sarver made it shows Gokey saying about Sarver, "I love this guy to death. In the..right way?" Sarver said, "In the Godly way". Gokey repeats Sarver but looks unsure, "Um, in the Godly way... I mean, what do you say?"]
I’ll quote Sarver on this endlessly:
MICHAEL SARVER POSTED: Where I’m from, you’re either in the closet or you’re dead.
hurrrrrr.
With Sarver, well…. Mom and Dad always taught us that it isn’t what you say but how you say it. That’s how I got so sardonic. So if what he said offended Adam, it probably had some teeth to it. Do I think he hates gays? No. Do I think he’s an ignorant shithead with no concept of diversity and how to interact with people that don’t match the narrow archetype of everyone you grew up with? Yes.
Alright, I’ll stop derailing about Sarver now and just say this. He’s not at fault for being ignorant if he’s never stepped outside his comfort zone. But if I were in a similar situation in which I found myself in his neck of the woods, my first inclination wouldn’t be to tell the people around town that where I’m from we all think they’re inbred hicks. Just sayin’.
Adam’s Sexuality:
What pisses me off is that people think he’s not talking about it because he’s scared of what’ll happen. Look at the loving TV and tell me he’s scared of weirding people out. Yeah right.
The truth is, American Idol shouldn’t be about the contestants’ silly personal stories. Had Danny Gokey not gone the Pity Party route, he would’ve been out sooner because he’s just not that exciting of a singer. I don’t want to see Adam on-screen whimpering about how hard it is to be a gay man in America because it doesn’t have to do with his singing. Adam didn’t want to fuse a sob story into his Idol persona. He wants to sing and entertain, not make people vote for him out of sympathy.
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Post by 4Ms on Sept 10, 2011 12:56:15 GMT -5
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