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Post by lelemaple on Jan 4, 2015 2:01:55 GMT -5
Adam's vibrato is always controlled and it is NEVER "bad". NEVER. I can't recall one time when it bothered me. Vibrato, used correctly, is a necessary singing "tool" and again, Adam applies it appropriately. The ignorant comments by Freddie purists are just that - examples of pure and willful ignorance. There are so many vocal inadequacies in the above 1975 performance that it is truly painful to listen to. I guess it wasn't the best night for Freiddie. But the reason I posted it was that it was the only BoRap/KQ medley I could find on YT. I am sure Talon would know if and where else it'e been used and he might even know whose original idea that particular medley was. Oh, I am so glad to see you say that. I listened to it and thought it was painful, too. In fact, I couldn't listen to the whole thing. I know that later in his career Freddie's voice was supposedly blown out because of abuse, nodules, too much smoking and drinking, etc. But, on the flip side, the later live performances sounded like he was more in control of his voice than this clip. I don't like this clip either. The Live at the Rainbow stuff is far superior to this and was in the same year. |
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Post by Q3 on Jan 4, 2015 2:09:32 GMT -5
ET Oh, I am so glad to see you say that. I listened to it and thought it was painful, too. In fact, I couldn't listen to the whole thing. I know that later in his career Freddie's voice was supposedly blown out because of abuse, nodules, too much smoking and drinking, etc. But, on the flip side, the later live performances sounded like he was more in control of his voice than this clip. I don't like this clip either. The Live at the Rainbow stuff is far superior to this and was in the same year. ITA -- I prefer Live at the Rainbow (1974) and Montreal (1981). Live at the Rainbow was 1974. The BBC Christmas concert was at the end of 1975. It was the end of three years of heavy touring and recording. It was not Freddie's best vocal moment -- seems like he made some unusual vocal choices for this performance. But it is still a great show and the band was great. *** Freddie's vocal issues run from 1977 into early 1984. ETA: But I think he was fatigued at the end of 1975. |
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Post by lelemaple on Jan 4, 2015 2:16:56 GMT -5
I don't like this clip either. The Live at the Rainbow stuff is far superior to this and was in the same year. ITA -- I prefer Live at the Rainbow and Montreal (1981). Live at the Rainbow was 1974. The BBC Christmas concert was at the end of 1975. It was the end of three years of heavy touring and recording. It was not Freddie's best vocal moment -- seems like he made some unusual vocal choices for this performance. But it is still a great show and the band was great. *** Freddie's vocal issues run from 1977 into early 1984. Yep you're right, 1974. Queen Rock Montreal is also fantastic. Brian sounds as impeccable today as he did back then. |
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Post by adamrocks on Jan 4, 2015 2:17:10 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Jan 4, 2015 2:28:24 GMT -5
ITA -- I prefer Live at the Rainbow and Montreal (1981). Live at the Rainbow was 1974. The BBC Christmas concert was at the end of 1975. It was the end of three years of heavy touring and recording. It was not Freddie's best vocal moment -- seems like he made some unusual vocal choices for this performance. But it is still a great show and the band was great. *** Freddie's vocal issues run from 1977 into early 1984. Yep you're right, 1974. Queen Rock Montreal is also fantastic. Brian sounds as impeccable today as he did back then. Queen Christmas Eve '75 -- Brian was amazing, the whole band was spectacular. John's bass is massive, Roger was so fast and they just drove the energy level up. Freddie's "Leroy Brown" from that concert was so much fun. It is one concert I wish I had attended. |
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Post by bridgeymah on Jan 4, 2015 2:36:19 GMT -5
I do! I was in the first row at one of the GNT concerts and his gaze felt "heavy" to me, it was too fierce and almost menacing... but at a signing outside a venue( (different occasion) the feeling was totally different - he projected warmth, openness and interest in the person he was facing... Have never seen Adam live, but just from videos you see that wonderful contrast between the intense and the laughing - and it comes so quickly. We saw it on Idol when a song would end, suddenly the character became the real. It's very cool. In his reviews Jacob from the now defunct TWOP talked about that being his favorite moment - when Adam would kind of Shake his head and smile and morph from the intense glittery prince to the nice guy - it was a visible shift. |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Jan 4, 2015 2:51:35 GMT -5
Have never seen Adam live, but just from videos you see that wonderful contrast between the intense and the laughing - and it comes so quickly. We saw it on Idol when a song would end, suddenly the character became the real. It's very cool. In his reviews Jacob from the now defunct TWOP talked about that being his favorite moment - when Adam would kind of Shake his head and smile and morph from the intense glittery prince to the nice guy - it was a visible shift. What is TWOP? A google search just give me "Television WithOut Pity". |
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Post by bridgeymah on Jan 4, 2015 2:57:09 GMT -5
In his reviews Jacob from the now defunct TWOP talked about that being his favorite moment - when Adam would kind of Shake his head and smile and morph from the intense glittery prince to the nice guy - it was a visible shift. What is TWOP? A google search just give me "Television WithOut Pity". That's the one - it was a forum and TV recap site that was snarky and fabulous but is no more. The reviewer who did Idol was called Jacob and Adam gave him some of his most entertaining posts. The episodes of Ring of Fire and Whole Lotta Love were standouts - I think someone grabbed them before site was pulled... |
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Post by nikki on Jan 4, 2015 3:44:19 GMT -5
Oh, I am so glad to see you say that. I listened to it and thought it was painful, too. In fact, I couldn't listen to the whole thing. I know that later in his career Freddie's voice was supposedly blown out because of abuse, nodules, too much smoking and drinking, etc. But, on the flip side, the later live performances sounded like he was more in control of his voice than this clip. I don't like this clip either. The Live at the Rainbow stuff is far superior to this and was in the same year. Agree about the Live at the Rainbow. I have truly enjoyed listening to that slice of Queen heaven. This performance, vocally, Freddie's voice sounds insanely tired. But he performs the shit out of everything and the concerts ROCKS as a whole. Adam rarely loses control of his vibrato. When he does though, I can't listen, but that is probably from his nerves - as has been discussed here before; and when he is nervous, I have trouble watching. Have never watched QAL Kiev again. I have trouble watching the AMA performance (from a vocal perspective). And there are a few of his personal choices singing with Queen that I don't like, most often in WATC. |
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Post by 4Ms on Jan 4, 2015 6:23:02 GMT -5
It's after midnight, so I thought I would sneak in a completely OT post. But, seeing as I am a mod, I will try to connect it to something remotely related to Adam's world. We lament about the lack of substance in many of the current pop songs. We have also talked about how pop singers often get credit for "writing" songs that they made very little contribution to. (Not Adam, of course.) So, what does it take to compose a great song? Or a top 40 hit? (Not often the same things.) Here's an example of what can be done by a talented composer, working with an before undiscovered talent. In April of 2009, Lithuanian conductor, composer and music educator Mindaugas Piečaitis contacted Philadelphia musicians and artists Betsy Alexander and Burnell Yow! by email regarding creating a children's concert piece using footage of their cat Nora. Nora had taught herself to play piano after watching Betsy teach for about one year. At that time, Nora's YouTube video had already been viewed by millions of people all over the world. Intrigued, Betsy and Burnell worked with Mindaugas to set up an online account to exchange existing and new video footage of Nora's unique talent. After he created a multimedia piece by splicing various sections of Nora's playing into one continuous musical piece, the composer created an orchestral accompaniment. youtu.be/zeoT66v4EHgOkay, okay, so it is totally OT. My bad. I should delete myself. I enjoyed the vid very much and emailed your intro along with the YT to my children. You, of course, know that Adam had some piano lessons. (He claims that he can't play, but I've always suspected that not to be entirely true.) Anyway, Nora's playing made me imagine similar piano practice by Adam as a child. |
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