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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 9:39:11 GMT -5
Here's Alex Newell singing. No video though.
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Post by Holst on Jul 14, 2011 11:47:09 GMT -5
Hi Adamuse. I finally watch the first three episodes of the Glee competition show--thanks for the link Cassie. I enjoyed it because it is a bit more real as Cassie said.
So, I do agree with you that his is of the same style of singing and performance as Jacob from AI. And I also agree that he is much better. He sings in tune and is in control of his voice and himself. Now, I'm not necessarily a big fan of the style. To me, there's just too much over the top. Which I find interesting for me to say since Adam is over the top in many ways and that is why some people don't like him. I'll watch more of the show online. It was nice to see Alex pull it back during the vulnerability episode. He may be in the performance phase/age where you know you can do something really well, so you do it all the time. That is what I feel with Adam's Zodiac shows. He can do riffs and high when he got the platform, and, in my opinion, overdid it. He has learned about subtlety since then.
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Post by cassie on Jul 14, 2011 20:36:48 GMT -5
Hmmmm. I may be in trouble for stating this, but.... I don't enjoy Alex. The person on the TV may be his real self, but it seems more like a caricature. There is absolutely nothing masculine about him. His singing voice and his speaking voice sound female to me. It may be that he crosses my line when it comes to gender bending. I try to think I don't have requirements for gendered behavior or appearance. To each his/her own. But, when I see Alex I am not comfortable.
If he did the same things, acted the same way, sounded the same way, but was female would I have the same reaction? Probably not... or not to the same extent.
I will say he sounded good on his sing for your life solo of Whitney's number. In the past his high notes have sounded shrill and piercing. This rendition had more fullness in the tone. Just can't get past how feminine his voice sounds. Adam can sing in the same range, but there is no question that he is a guy, just on voice alone, without seeing the sexy..... well, except for places in My Conviction, when the impersonation of a mezzo soprano is both effective and intentional.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 11:45:03 GMT -5
I love that he's so 'camp' but then I also loved the high gospel voice of Jacob from AI. It will be interesting to see how long he lasts in the competition. If there was voting probably not long. I think he sounds male in the lower verse parts of 'I will always love you', but then if I listened without knowing he was male I might not.
One of my daughters likes Damien and his mesmerizing blue eyes. Despite his history with 'Celtic Thunder' I don't think he has really shone in this competition.
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Post by Holst on Jul 18, 2011 13:13:04 GMT -5
Hi Cassie and others,
We've talked before about how Adam was sick before his NYC performances for GlamNation and said there wasn't much voice there earlier. We couldn't tell. And people have talked about how a well-trained singer can power through temporary throat problems. Well, last night I finished playing in a run of a Sondheim musical with a number of operatic and well-trained singers. Turns out one of them has had laryngitis for the last few days and I did not notice at all from her singing. I just found out after the show when I heard her talking to some friends. Holy smokes! Apparently, she altered some notes (I didn't notice). I don't know how they pull that off. So glad I'm not a singer--I get sick all the time and often loose my voice a bit.
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Jul 25, 2011 15:27:49 GMT -5
Thinking about Adam's writing abilities. Is this version of "Pop Pop Goes the Camera" his original version/arrangement done on his computer? The lyrics are really clever, and pretty much reflect his journey. #manifestation is right! If this is really a creation of Adam alone working on his computer --- and I think he has said as much, right? --- I am impressed on so many levels. I really enjoy his playing with lyrics. With the sounds of words. That seems to be a strength of his. The song also is catchy and I think has a good hook. Several, actually. If the harmonies are all Adam singing the backing tracks, he should sing all his backing tracks in the future. It is blended flawlessly, with the melody snaking thru, under and over the harmonies, but still discernible. I think the music and the harmonies, plus the structure of the song are remarkable coming from a person who does not have training in a musical instrument. Now, don't jump down my throat. I am NOT one of those who thinks a singer must play an instrument to be l legitimate artist. But, without the experience providing accompaniment to a vocal line, filling in chords and harmonies like one does on keyboards or a rhythm guitar, and without the experience of playing parts in a band or orchestra, being able to create the complex harmonies is damned impressive. If he did all that on his own, three or four years ago, I am delirious thinking about what Adam 2 will sound like!!! Just came across this again, cassie, and I laughed a bit at your statement. Adam spent years in the chorus, singing the harmony lines, because he DIDN'T have the lead. He also apparently sang a good deal of classical material in high school, which frequently have very complex harmonies. Nor did Adam always have the lead parts even in his child theater productions. Because of this, I'm sure Adam has a great deal of experience singing the supporting vocal lines, and blending them against the melody. [grin] Who knew getting stuck in the background would be so helpful?! :D
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Post by evergreen on Jul 25, 2011 18:05:45 GMT -5
Cassie - You probably saw this in today's news thread (P. 1), but thought this portion of fionamom's review belonged here, too. Re concert/Warfield #2- San Francisco *** Sleepwalker. i am a singer and was so impressed with watching him do this one. big breaths from his waist up, singers fill their lungs from their diapraghms, i could see THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF HIS BACK/torso filling with air and he was just powerhousing those vocals out. sooooooo cool to see his physical breathing/singing technique in such a powerhouse moemnt. in fact im almost tearing up because seriously it was such a beautiful thing to see. like it takes work to sustain and support that kind of vocals and he was just cycling that breath through so positively and strongly an beautifully. any other singers know what i mean? not sure how to describe this. like a perfect melding of classical trained vocal technique with a more spiritual raw rock vocals technique. it's like the work is done down low in the torso to support the breath at the diapraghm and then the throat is open and he was just flowing with it and just FILLING the ENTIRE THEATRE WITH HIS VOICE. add to that his incredibly magnetic stage presence visually and the fab dancing and his physical beauty and the whole thing is just freaking overwhelming. at this one i really noticed his stage experience. Can project everything- voice, movements, expressions, to back of theater. omg i love him sfm. so awesome to see such talent in person with my own eyes. lasers were tremendous- went right over our heads in the pit like a canopy of light. Read more: www.adamtopia.com/index.cgi?board=daily&action=display&thread=409&page=1#ixzz1TA2J9Rkv
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Post by cassie on Jul 25, 2011 18:06:48 GMT -5
If this is really a creation of Adam alone working on his computer --- and I think he has said as much, right? --- I am impressed on so many levels. I really enjoy his playing with lyrics. With the sounds of words. That seems to be a strength of his. The song also is catchy and I think has a good hook. Several, actually. If the harmonies are all Adam singing the backing tracks, he should sing all his backing tracks in the future. It is blended flawlessly, with the melody snaking thru, under and over the harmonies, but still discernible. I think the music and the harmonies, plus the structure of the song are remarkable coming from a person who does not have training in a musical instrument. Now, don't jump down my throat. I am NOT one of those who thinks a singer must play an instrument to be l legitimate artist. But, without the experience providing accompaniment to a vocal line, filling in chords and harmonies like one does on keyboards or a rhythm guitar, and without the experience of playing parts in a band or orchestra, being able to create the complex harmonies is damned impressive. If he did all that on his own, three or four years ago, I am delirious thinking about what Adam 2 will sound like!!! Just came across this again, cassie, and I laughed a bit at your statement. Adam spent years in the chorus, singing the harmony lines, because he DIDN'T have the lead. He also apparently sang a good deal of classical material in high school, which frequently have very complex harmonies. Nor did Adam always have the lead parts even in his child theater productions. Because of this, I'm sure Adam has a great deal of experience singing the supporting vocal lines, and blending them against the melody. [grin] Who knew getting stuck in the background would be so helpful?! :D You make a good point. I know that he has lots of experience in choral settings over the years. In my experience with choral singers, tho', they learn their own part by rote or by reading their line in the score, but frequently do not pay attention to the overall structures of the harmonies. With guitar or keyboards, the player creates the entire harmonic chord structure. For example, if I play a C chord on the piano, I play the notes C, E, G. If I play a C7 chord, I play C,E,G,Bb. If I play a Cminor chord, I play C,Eb,G. If I play a C chord on the guitar, the notes are, from bottom to top, E, C, E, G, C, E. Therefore, learning to play those instruments requires learning the chord harmonies. Singers certainly can learn chord harmonies, too. Not saying they can't. But, from my experience, that is more rare, unless they have formal music theory training. Of course, maybe Adam picked that up as well in school. Or, he has learned it because he has a very good ear. In any case, I give him lots of credit for it.
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Post by cassie on Jul 25, 2011 18:12:01 GMT -5
Cassie - You probably saw this in today's news thread (P. 1), but thought this portion of fionamom's review belonged here, too. Re concert/Warfield #2- San Francisco *** Sleepwalker. i am a singer and was so impressed with watching him do this one. big breaths from his waist up, singers fill their lungs from their diapraghms, i could see THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF HIS BACK/torso filling with air and he was just powerhousing those vocals out. sooooooo cool to see his physical breathing/singing technique in such a powerhouse moemnt. in fact im almost tearing up because seriously it was such a beautiful thing to see. like it takes work to sustain and support that kind of vocals and he was just cycling that breath through so positively and strongly an beautifully. any other singers know what i mean? not sure how to describe this. like a perfect melding of classical trained vocal technique with a more spiritual raw rock vocals technique. it's like the work is done down low in the torso to support the breath at the diapraghm and then the throat is open and he was just flowing with it and just FILLING the ENTIRE THEATRE WITH HIS VOICE. add to that his incredibly magnetic stage presence visually and the fab dancing and his physical beauty and the whole thing is just freaking overwhelming. at this one i really noticed his stage experience. Can project everything- voice, movements, expressions, to back of theater. omg i love him sfm. so awesome to see such talent in person with my own eyes. lasers were tremendous- went right over our heads in the pit like a canopy of light. Read more: www.adamtopia.com/index.cgi?board=daily&action=display&thread=409&page=1#ixzz1TA2J9RkvThanks for bringing this over. I had missed it. I agree with her totally. That is one of the many remarkable things about Adam. He maintains and uses his classical training no matter the style or genre. His breath support in impressive, and allows for the wonderful phrasing, the power, the strength, and the ease of his vocals (meaning no pushing or straining). He really does have all the aspects of a stellar performer.
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Post by csharpminor on Jul 26, 2011 9:36:31 GMT -5
ROBERT SCHUMANN "Advice to young musicians" www.gutenberg.org/catalog/world/readfile?fk_files=1551837&pageno=1Frequently sing in choruses, especially the middle parts, this will help to make you a real _musician_. But how do we become _musical_? This, my young friend, is a gift from above; it consists chiefly of a fine ear and quick conception. And these gifts may be cultivated and enhanced. You will not become musical by confining yourself to your room and to mere mechanical studies, but by an extensive intercourse with the musical world, especially with the Chorus and the Orchestra.
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