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Post by eri9 on Feb 29, 2012 13:05:04 GMT -5
Hi Cassie, Here is Meatloaf talking briefly about Adam - but wow, he obviously appreciates his vocal talent/ability! www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2TS9d0kEq8Couldn't get it to embed, sorry. I have never heard of "overdrive" before tho! Found a link to this article, but I still don't really understand. www.completevocalinstitute.com/node/49Do you know anything about it, and can maybe explain in every-day terms that you're so good at?!  Thanks! |
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Post by cassie on Feb 29, 2012 15:57:03 GMT -5
Hi Cassie, Here is Meatloaf talking briefly about Adam - but wow, he obviously appreciates his vocal talent/ability! www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2TS9d0kEq8Couldn't get it to embed, sorry. I have never heard of "overdrive" before tho! Found a link to this article, but I still don't really understand. www.completevocalinstitute.com/node/49Do you know anything about it, and can maybe explain in every-day terms that you're so good at?! Thanks! Sorry, but I am stumped on this one. Not used to the voice being described in these terms. Someone else want to explain? |
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Post by Jablea on Feb 29, 2012 17:13:23 GMT -5
Hi Cassie, Here is Meatloaf talking briefly about Adam - but wow, he obviously appreciates his vocal talent/ability! www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2TS9d0kEq8Couldn't get it to embed, sorry. I have never heard of "overdrive" before tho! Found a link to this article, but I still don't really understand. www.completevocalinstitute.com/node/49Do you know anything about it, and can maybe explain in every-day terms that you're so good at?! Thanks! Sorry, but I am stumped on this one. Not used to the voice being described in these terms. Someone else want to explain? I'd say it is power under control. Most people have quiet, normal, loud and their normal and loud isn't really that much different. Overdrive soars over them because everyone else has to shout while those with overdrive are still singing. What you might refer to as a big voice. But probably the easier comparison might be between Whitney and Jennifer Hudson. Hudson has a big voice but she strains more than Whitney for the big notes. That's my non-technical view |
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Post by lyris on Feb 29, 2012 23:02:45 GMT -5
Much earlier today gelly14 posted this video.
CVI Authorised Complete Vocal Technique Teacher interview: Jeroen Manuhutu
Jeroen Manuhutu explains the four modes of singing: Neutral, Curbing, Overdrive and Edge.
It did not help me much to understand what Overdrive means. Partially because I could not hear a huge difference. I know though that I cannot perceive a lot of the minute difference that sometimes gets discussed on this thread, so maybe it will help explain it to one of you (who can then try and explain it to me)
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Post by mehitabel on Mar 1, 2012 14:07:58 GMT -5
First visit to this thread - prompted by the question of "overdrive." I watched AI when Adam was on and was totally enthralled by his singing - all aspects. But the first time I really went Whoa!! was with Queen. The exact moment that to me embodies overdrive - Kris Allen sings the first lines, then Adam comes in with the "and bad mistakes" - that was my whoa moment - the sound was full out, resonated like crazy, and just blew me away. I play that whole first sequence over and over - lol. So, my question, is that an overdrive moment?
No good at embedding or I would here.
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Post by cassie on Mar 1, 2012 20:40:39 GMT -5
First visit to this thread - prompted by the question of "overdrive." I watched AI when Adam was on and was totally enthralled by his singing - all aspects. But the first time I really went Whoa!! was with Queen. The exact moment that to me embodies overdrive - Kris Allen sings the first lines, then Adam comes in with the "and bad mistakes" - that was my whoa moment - the sound was full out, resonated like crazy, and just blew me away. I play that whole first sequence over and over - lol. So, my question, is that an overdrive moment? No good at embedding or I would here. As I said earlier, I am not familiar with the term in singing. But, I would think, from the explanation given and the demonstration, that it is a good example. My confusion is that Meatloaf said he only could think of three singers who had that ability: Whitney, Aretha, and Adam. I love how Adam sings that phrase, but, I don't think the ability is that rare. Perhaps the level of execution and excellence is. Perhaps others sing in overdrive, but not as perfectly as those three? What say you? |
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Post by mehitabel on Mar 1, 2012 21:12:22 GMT -5
First visit to this thread - prompted by the question of "overdrive." I watched AI when Adam was on and was totally enthralled by his singing - all aspects. But the first time I really went Whoa!! was with Queen. The exact moment that to me embodies overdrive - Kris Allen sings the first lines, then Adam comes in with the "and bad mistakes" - that was my whoa moment - the sound was full out, resonated like crazy, and just blew me away. I play that whole first sequence over and over - lol. So, my question, is that an overdrive moment? No good at embedding or I would here. As I said earlier, I am not familiar with the term in singing. But, I would think, from the explanation given and the demonstration, that it is a good example. My confusion is that Meatloaf said he only could think of three singers who had that ability: Whitney, Aretha, and Adam. I love how Adam sings that phrase, but, I don't think the ability is that rare. Perhaps the level of execution and excellence is. Perhaps others sing in overdrive, but not as perfectly as those three? What say you? I think it may be the quality of the sound - there is a depth in all three voices when they project. The sound builds without sounding strained - hard to explain, but I respond to that kind of singing. |
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Post by rihannsu on Mar 1, 2012 23:01:27 GMT -5
First visit to this thread - prompted by the question of "overdrive." I watched AI when Adam was on and was totally enthralled by his singing - all aspects. But the first time I really went Whoa!! was with Queen. The exact moment that to me embodies overdrive - Kris Allen sings the first lines, then Adam comes in with the "and bad mistakes" - that was my whoa moment - the sound was full out, resonated like crazy, and just blew me away. I play that whole first sequence over and over - lol. So, my question, is that an overdrive moment? No good at embedding or I would here. As I said earlier, I am not familiar with the term in singing. But, I would think, from the explanation given and the demonstration, that it is a good example. My confusion is that Meatloaf said he only could think of three singers who had that ability: Whitney, Aretha, and Adam. I love how Adam sings that phrase, but, I don't think the ability is that rare. Perhaps the level of execution and excellence is. Perhaps others sing in overdrive, but not as perfectly as those three? What say you? Well, to be quite honest we don't even know if Meatloaf's use of the term overdrive is in any way related to this vocal method stuff. I mean where did this originate and how widespread is it. Someone pointed out that they used European notation for the notes which was different from what we are used to? Something about a C2 actually being the C5 that we are familiar with? One of the print interviews actually quotes Meatloaf saying that he knows nothing about music as he was and is first and foremost an actor so his "overdrive" could be something completely made up in his own head and not an actual industry term. I think people are getting hung up on latching on to this term that he used and trying to make sense of it while missing the real point he was making which was that those three singers have exceedingly rare talent. I don't care a fig for the term he used but I am thrilled that he ranks Adam right up there with Aretha and Whitney! That's a big fucking endorsement. Way back when he first was berting over Adam he also said that he hadn't been so totally blown away by a singer since Joplin. So he has to this point equated Adam with Joplin, Aretha and Whitney AND this was a situation where the conversation was about his music and Whitney's death so bringing Adam into the conversation AT ALL was totally fanboying. |
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Post by rihannsu on Mar 6, 2012 20:47:52 GMT -5
Cassie here is an interesting link to the pure vocal track for "The Show Must Go On". What's funny is I here vibrato in many of the same places Adam used vibrato but Freddie didn't have the power or sustain at this point so it doesn't come through as noticeably as in Adam's rendition. I can picture though how if Freddie had sung this in his prime there would have been plenty of vibrato in it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzTeoyUsyoE |
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Post by lambo on Mar 7, 2012 8:53:18 GMT -5
Cassie here is an interesting link to the pure vocal track for "The Show Must Go On". What's funny is I here vibrato in many of the same places Adam used vibrato but Freddie didn't have the power or sustain at this point so it doesn't come through as noticeably as in Adam's rendition. I can picture though how if Freddie had sung this in his prime there would have been plenty of vibrato in it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzTeoyUsyoEI would consider this album Freddie's prime vocally, actually. Your comment about him "not having the power or sustain" confuses me though, his power here is unreal and he never sustained high notes like that in the 70's or most of the 80's. Back to Adam though, he hit his lowest live note in the Houston acoustic Fever yesterday! At the end. I think it is a low B flat. Doesn't add to his range but it's a better note than those in Light Falls Away |
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