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Post by cassie on Jul 11, 2014 19:31:18 GMT -5
Good question. I have no experience with in-ear monitors, or any other kind, actually. The vast majority of my performing has been "au naturale" with no mics and with piano or orchestral backing. But, I will explain what I understand, and maybe others will chime in.
The main purpose for the monitors is for Adam to hear HIMSELF sing. If you have been to a rock concert, you know that it is so loud that you cannot hear yourself talk, sing or scream. Without monitors on stage facing the singer or in their ears, they cannot tell how they are sounding and whether they are on pitch. If you are a piano player, you hit a key and a note sounds. If you hit the right key and if the piano is in tune, your playing will be in tune. You don't have to do anything to adjust for the right pitch. The same is true with a guitar. Put your fingers on the right string between the right frets and, if your guitar is in tune, the note is in tune.
For a singer there are no measuring lines or keys or levers that play the pitch. The singer has to adjust their vocal cords and their throat muscles and their breathing to produce a note that is on the exact pitch. The slightest maladjustment, the tiniest lack of breath support or excess of breath exhaled, and the pitch will be off. A singer produces the note by sense memory, and body awareness, then monitors it by ear to make sure they hit the note correctly. If they cannot hear themselves, it's like shooting at a target in the dark.
It seems, from the signals that Adam gives his sound engineer, that the audio feed of his voice is set to sound like the audience hears it. Adam gives signals not only for loudness (point to mic, point up in the air, or move palm down) but also for sound quality (point to mic, gesture open hand like a rainbow for more brightness to the sound).
Secondarily, the other instruments are also fed into Adam's monitors. He has to hear them in order to hear the target key and pitches he is to sing. You will see him hold his palm down and wiggle his fingers to indicate the piano and usually point to the guitar players for their instruments. Each musician has their preference for what they want to hear in the monitor, and they work with the sound engineer to get that. I doubt that Adam signals the engineer for the instrument balance to the audience for Queen concerts, but he may monitor it for his own shows.
As to why Adam fiddles with the dang things more than other singers, and why more on the ballads than the up-tempo songs, I think it has to do with how he shapes his mouth to hit certain notes. To belt out those amazing glory notes, he opens his mouth wide, drops his jaw, and extends his tongue forward. This changes the shape of the ear canal which can dislodge the ear pieces. He then has to refit them. When singing a fast number without crazy high notes, he doesn't change the shape of his mouth so drastically, and the ear pieces stay put better. Other untrained singers or singers who don't sing such difficult numbers don't move their mouths excessively, and the ear pieces stay in place fine.
Adam also tends to take out at least one ear piece when he wants to hear the audience better, like for call and response.
There are also on-stage monitors facing the players and Adam, but they are not as effective for self monitoring. All the sounds in the air tend to swirl around each other and get muddy, sometimes one drowning out the other. I think they are sort of a back up system in case the in-ear monitors go wonky, as they are wont to do.
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Post by maya on Jul 11, 2014 22:14:15 GMT -5
Thank you so much, Cassie....
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Post by butterknife on Jul 12, 2014 0:26:23 GMT -5
Adam is about to take on those monster songs on three-day back-to-back concerts. I am very curious about how he is going to utilize his voice on big numbers. It's funny that his energy was even higher and he went for more high notes on the second concerts on two-day back-to-back singing (for example, LV2 and Dallas). He ended TSMGO in Dallas with a build-on G5 (right?) www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs6ZkuydSHUHe also sustained the F#5 (right?) at the end of WATC there www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjzC5F2bl2EWe haven't seen this happening in a while. Damn, those high notes are so bright, ringing and full of power. Do you think his voice is getting even finer now? It's scary that I even believe QAL is gonna get better and better.
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Post by toramenor on Jul 12, 2014 2:41:00 GMT -5
Adam is about to take on those monster songs on three-day back-to-back concerts. I am very curious about how he is going to utilize his voice on big numbers. It's funny that his energy was even higher and he went for more high notes on the second concerts on two-day back-to-back singing (for example, LV2 and Dallas). Yes, but he didn't go all out on WWTLF in Dallas. He knows what he's doing. I wonder if he brought a vocal coach with him on this tour like he did on GNT? Haven't heard anything about it, but it's probable he consulted somebody during rehearsals and I'm sure he plans for these things even now with the tour underway. He likes mixing things up, doesn't like to sing the same song in the exact same way, so that might also be one of the reasons why he switches which songs to go all out on and which to tone down a bit.
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Post by cassie on Jul 12, 2014 8:55:22 GMT -5
Adam is about to take on those monster songs on three-day back-to-back concerts. I am very curious about how he is going to utilize his voice on big numbers. It's funny that his energy was even higher and he went for more high notes on the second concerts on two-day back-to-back singing (for example, LV2 and Dallas). Yes, but he didn't go all out on WWTLF in Dallas. He knows what he's doing. I wonder if he brought a vocal coach with him on this tour like he did on GNT? Haven't heard anything about it, but it's probable he consulted somebody during rehearsals and I'm sure he plans for these things even now with the tour underway. He likes mixing things up, doesn't like to sing the same song in the exact same way, so that might also be one of the reasons why he switches which songs to go all out on and which to tone down a bit. I have to admit I DO worry about Adam's voice on this tour. The songs are more challenging than on GNT, and the show is longer. However, Adam certainly knows his voice better than anyone else. He also knows it is his signature, the thing that makes him most unique. When Brian May and Roger Taylor both say it is "one in a billion" you know it is your most precious commodity to market. Being so familiar with Queenbert 2012, and now becoming familiar with the current show, I can hear that Adam has definitely dialed back on some of the most virtuoso glory notes that are most taxing on the voice. I miss them, but those who haven't heard him sing the song any differently don't. What he is doing is still so damned jaw-dropping. He has always been much more than just those impossible notes. I don't know if he has a vocal coach with him. Someone said in sound check, Spike was warming him up. He doubtless consulted with one prior to the tour and while working out the set list and the interpretation of songs. He is also NOT doing meet and greets before or autographs at the bus after this tour, nor is he doing any interviews. My guess is he is minimizing the amount of talking off stage and doing everything he can to rest his voice. The workout it gets is arduous, no question about it. But, with the proper support and proper technique, the show and sound check as scheduled would not automatically strain his voice. It is do-able. WITH THE PROPER SUPPORT AND TECHNIQUE, and with discipline as to how far to push and when to dial back, regardless of the adrenaline rush onstage. And with proper care, diet and rest when off stage. I have to trust the guy.
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Post by theosgma on Jul 12, 2014 9:40:07 GMT -5
Yes, but he didn't go all out on WWTLF in Dallas. He knows what he's doing. I wonder if he brought a vocal coach with him on this tour like he did on GNT? Haven't heard anything about it, but it's probable he consulted somebody during rehearsals and I'm sure he plans for these things even now with the tour underway. He likes mixing things up, doesn't like to sing the same song in the exact same way, so that might also be one of the reasons why he switches which songs to go all out on and which to tone down a bit. I have to admit I DO worry about Adam's voice on this tour. The songs are more challenging than on GNT, and the show is longer. However, Adam certainly knows his voice better than anyone else. He also knows it is his signature, the thing that makes him most unique. When Brian May and Roger Taylor both say it is "one in a billion" you know it is your most precious commodity to market. Being so familiar with Queenbert 2012, and now becoming familiar with the current show, I can hear that Adam has definitely dialed back on some of the most virtuoso glory notes that are most taxing on the voice. I miss them, but those who haven't heard him sing the song any differently don't. What he is doing is still so damned jaw-dropping. He has always been much more than just those impossible notes. I don't know if he has a vocal coach with him. Someone said in sound check, Spike was warming him up. He doubtless consulted with one prior to the tour and while working out the set list and the interpretation of songs. He is also NOT doing meet and greets before or autographs at the bus after this tour, nor is he doing any interviews. My guess is he is minimizing the amount of talking off stage and doing everything he can to rest his voice. The workout it gets is arduous, no question about it. But, with the proper support and proper technique, the show and sound check as scheduled would not automatically strain his voice. It is do-able. WITH THE PROPER SUPPORT AND TECHNIQUE, and with discipline as to how far to push and when to dial back, regardless of the adrenaline rush onstage. And with proper care, diet and rest when off stage. I have to trust the guy. I am with you Cassie. Restrained worry and needing to trust that Adam will modulate but also to take Brian at his word that adjustments will be made to protect Adam as needed. He was directly asked this question on the Sirius Interview.
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Post by toramenor on Jul 12, 2014 11:03:57 GMT -5
Don't forget that the time when Adam is off stage (during Love of My Life, etc. and then again during Brian's solo) works beautifully for him as an intermission - I believe that part is structured in such a way not so Brian and Roger would satisfy their egos (or whatever some people might think), but to allow Adam some vocal rest and time to drink lots of warm tea and honey (you know what I mean: they could have structured the show differently; I'm sure Adam was consulted on the song order). However, it was very amusing to read this in a review: "He stepped offstage several times to let the pure Queen love rule the arena (and to change costumes — May’s halfway-mark solo went on so long that my friend wondered if Lambert had spent that time actually getting his arm tattoos, which weren’t visible before his re-entrance, painted on backstage)." (Read more: adamtopia.com/thread/2447/12-14-hottest-summer-tours?page=1#ixzz37GpPFZLs) I laughed so hard picturing Adam backstage, while some frantic bodypaint artists were trying to paint his sleeve. LOL
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Post by eri9 on Jul 12, 2014 19:21:45 GMT -5
THAT NOTE!!! at 7.05
Cassie you referred to it on today's thread:
"A full-voice, ringing, sustained, powerful but not strained or tight F5. Do you know how many of the top world class tenors would KILL to be able to sing that note like that???? "
I have had recent discussion with my (former) opera-singer father about Adam's range. He is impressed, but seems almost disbelieving that it is as high as I say it is! The top D in WWTLF for example. (iheart radio) He thinks it's in head voice. I disagree.
Anyway, he showed me this (audio only) of a young NZ tenor (of Samoan descent) who is taking the world by storm as part of the group Solo mio, saying this top D he hits at the end of this song (14.45) is amazing. And yes, he has a beautiful tone - gorgeous. but operatic, whereas Adam's high notes have more edge to the tone.... just a very different sound. Interested in people's thoughts on this guy tho!
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Post by bridgeymah on Jul 12, 2014 22:59:58 GMT -5
I have to admit I DO worry about Adam's voice on this tour. The songs are more challenging than on GNT, and the show is longer. However, Adam certainly knows his voice better than anyone else. He also knows it is his signature, the thing that makes him most unique. When Brian May and Roger Taylor both say it is "one in a billion" you know it is your most precious commodity to market. Being so familiar with Queenbert 2012, and now becoming familiar with the current show, I can hear that Adam has definitely dialed back on some of the most virtuoso glory notes that are most taxing on the voice. I miss them, but those who haven't heard him sing the song any differently don't. What he is doing is still so damned jaw-dropping. He has always been much more than just those impossible notes. I don't know if he has a vocal coach with him. Someone said in sound check, Spike was warming him up. He doubtless consulted with one prior to the tour and while working out the set list and the interpretation of songs. He is also NOT doing meet and greets before or autographs at the bus after this tour, nor is he doing any interviews. My guess is he is minimizing the amount of talking off stage and doing everything he can to rest his voice. The workout it gets is arduous, no question about it. But, with the proper support and proper technique, the show and sound check as scheduled would not automatically strain his voice. It is do-able. WITH THE PROPER SUPPORT AND TECHNIQUE, and with discipline as to how far to push and when to dial back, regardless of the adrenaline rush onstage. And with proper care, diet and rest when off stage. I have to trust the guy. I am with you Cassie. Restrained worry and needing to trust that Adam will modulate but also to take Brian at his word that adjustments will be made to protect Adam as needed. He was directly asked this question on the Sirius Interview. He is over half way through the US portion of the tour and so far so good so will trust he is doing the right stuff. Then he gets two week break before Asia and then another 5 day break before Oz... If anything I notice his training and technique more strongly as the tour goes on. Almost as if it is a matter of will for him to sing past his training (adding grit etc all the stuff we've talked about).
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Post by toramenor on Jul 13, 2014 5:04:14 GMT -5
eri9 - I like that tenor, he sounds good. Yes, Adam has a different style, but I think it's because he chooses to, not because he couldn't do it. I'm confused, tho, why does your father not believe you? Just play him some other audios/videos and he can hear for himself the notes Adam hits - that, at least, is an objective thing. The subjective part then comes as to whether or not your father likes Adam's voice. I think if you want to convince your father that Adam is using his chest voice, you should show him this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJu9d2TVghg
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