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Post by midwifespal on Jun 8, 2011 11:04:25 GMT -5
Also, WONDERSTRUCK, you're probably long gone by now but just in case you're lurking...
I'd PM you this but you don't have an account anymore...I really appreciated your directness and the smart but unsentimental angle you brought to many conversations here. I've been away so I have no idea what happened (I suspect it was a slow build in any case) but I'll miss that. Have fun continuing to follow and love Adam.
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Post by JazzRocks on Jun 8, 2011 15:18:15 GMT -5
BUT midwifespal WHAT CAUSED THE HIGH FEVERS? What is the diagnosis??
Ye Gads what an ordeal! But please spill - what caused it?
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Post by sugaree on Jun 8, 2011 15:21:43 GMT -5
midwifespal, you're hysterical. I felt bad laughing so hard while you're so sick. So Ms. Global Warming, now I know why it's so hot in NY. But since I love hot weather, thank you. I'm on Long Island, you can come stay with me. I promise my freezer is spotless and I'll have plenty of ice packs. Oh, and there was a dead whale that washed up on the beach here yesterday. Hmmmmm.
Seriously, hope you're feeling better.
(just kidding about the whale)
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Post by sugaree on Jun 8, 2011 15:26:52 GMT -5
Oohh - "Can of Worms" here - So I hear .....Florida is the first state that will require drug testing when applying for welfare (effective July 1st)! Some people are crying this is unconstitutional. HOW IS THIS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, WHEN MOST WORKING PERSONS HAVE TO PASS A DRUG TEST IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THOSE ON WELFARE? Just saying!!! >:( No can of worms for me. I'm with ya all the way. Go Florida. Hope it passes. |
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Post by midwifespal on Jun 8, 2011 15:37:58 GMT -5
BUT midwifespal WHAT CAUSED THE HIGH FEVERS? What is the diagnosis?? Ye Gads what an ordeal! But please spill - what caused it? They don't really know. I haven't gotten all the test results yet, so they might reveal something. Until then, they're going with a very hesitant diagnosis of pneumonia (one of the x-rays showed a tiny bit of white haze in one area from one angle that *might* be pneumonia ???), but they seem pretty uncertain about that. Who knows. At least the fevers are down now, thankfully. That was NO FUN. |
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Post by midwifespal on Jun 8, 2011 16:00:28 GMT -5
Oohh - "Can of Worms" here - So I hear .....Florida is the first state that will require drug testing when applying for welfare (effective July 1st)! Some people are crying this is unconstitutional. HOW IS THIS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, WHEN MOST WORKING PERSONS HAVE TO PASS A DRUG TEST IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THOSE ON WELFARE? Just saying!!! >:( No can of worms for me. I'm with ya all the way. Go Florida. Hope it passes. Kapsiz--you: opening up a can of worms. Me:  Major disclaimer: I'm still kinda sick so I may not quite make sense and I can't be bothered to do any research to back this stuff up, but: In my opinion, these are two totally different situations. An employer's responsibility is to her company--she has the right to make make hiring and firing decisions based on whatever helps the productivity of that company (including asking for a drug test, although I have some caveats here that I won't go into now). The entire purpose of hiring and paying someone is that they are adding financial value to that company. The State, meanwhile, has a responsibility not to gain from its citizens, but to protect them, including the neediest of those citizens. And the citizens have a constitutionally guaranteed right to those protections. This is the social safety net, and here in the US we hang ours a heck of a lot lower, and weave it with much thinner thread, than in almost every other developed democracy in the world. The comparison to employment practices seems to me to be entirely beside the point. The responsibilities, both moral and legal, seem to me to be totally different. To me, personally, the Florida law smacks of dropping someone from their health insurance coverage because they have a pre-existing condition (which is also legal in this country before the new health care plan comes into effect). Should medicaid be allowed to refuse to insure smokers because they've clearly made a bad choice? Just because someone has fallen into a bad or dangerous or life-destroying habit doesn't mean they have forfeited all their rights to protection from the state, and can just be completely abandoned to their unlucky fate--they're still citizens, perhaps the neediest of all, and I for one do not resent my taxes going towards their need. Similarly, I wouldn't deny a child the right to a public education just because he was caught smoking pot. In my opinion, like healthcare, welfare--that is, help from the state when you do not have enough to survive on in the most basic sense on your own--is a right, not a privilege. But this isn't even the scenario that springs most immediately to mind. I haven't read the Florida law, but if it includes minor drug violations, then there are a lot of people out there whose innocent KIDS might go hungry (hell, hungrier than they already are) because their parent occasionally relaxes with some harmless weed. This sounds unconstitutional to me, but like I said, I haven't looked into it at all. Sorry if this is a jumble, and also, needless to say, I'm happy to just have a difference of opinion here, kapsiz, sugaree! Hell, I've got no moral ground to stand on at all--I'm a well-know whale-killer  . |
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Post by JazzRocks on Jun 8, 2011 16:37:02 GMT -5
midwifespal - you wrote THAT while ill? I'll just say that I feel the same way. Can of worms for me.  Btw - Lyme Disease, which is becoming more prevalent every year, can often produce a negative test result when the disease is present. If your symptoms continue I would look into that possibility. I'm not sure if it's common in your area (requires a white-tail deer population) but it is in mine. I live in the woods, deer come up to the windows of my house and I am outside working in the yard every day so it's pretty ??? that I haven't gotten infected thus far.
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Post by midwifespal on Jun 8, 2011 17:09:36 GMT -5
midwifespal - you wrote THAT while ill? I'll just say that I feel the same way. Can of worms for me. Btw - Lyme Disease, which is becoming more prevalent every year, can often produce a negative test result when the disease is present. If your symptoms continue I would look into that possibility. I'm not sure if it's common in your area (requires a white-tail deer population) but it is in mine. I live in the woods, deer come up to the windows of my house and I am outside working in the yard every day so it's pretty ??? that I haven't gotten infected thus far. well, they thought of lyme disease because i'd spent a few days on cape cod. But i really never left paved roads, and the symptoms started soon after i got there (too soon, probably, to be tick-related), and i scoured myself all over (with the help of the hubby) and didn't find any bites. But I'm certainly keeping it in mind. |
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Jun 8, 2011 18:12:58 GMT -5
midwifespal - sorry to hear about your illness! Sounds really rough, especially when you're not at home with the option of just lolling about in pjs all day or sitting in a bathtub. Glad the fever went down, and hope that whatever it was is gone for good! Yeah, IA on the drug-testing. Plus I'd personally probably rage about the 54% of my income tax going to the military (Halliburton, grrr!) before the 5.5% that goes to welfare for the poor. www.ourdime.us/102/budgetinfo/how-much-do-we-spend-on-welfare/ |
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Post by sugaree on Jun 8, 2011 20:11:46 GMT -5
Wow. As the daughter of an Air Force retiree I have nothing to say. Perhaps the welfare recipients should be asked to serve their country. I'd be cool with that.
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