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Post by rama on May 29, 2011 7:39:38 GMT -5
NoAgel, once again an amazing essay! Thank You!
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Post by needacoke on May 29, 2011 7:44:26 GMT -5
His last tweet - that is a HUGE glass of vodka! Hope he can walk onto the plane.
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Post by lindy on May 29, 2011 7:44:47 GMT -5
adamlambert : Heavy pour. #nostrovia say.ly/WCQmIO 3 minutes ago via WhoSay
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Post by gelly14 on May 29, 2011 7:46:08 GMT -5
adamlambert Heavy pour. #nostrovia say.ly/WCQmIO5 minutes ago via WhoSay
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Post by lindy on May 29, 2011 7:46:50 GMT -5
_mamadeb I just looked up nostrovia (means "cheers", btw.) But the first couple entries? Adam's tweets. half a minute ago via TweetDeck
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Post by bocababe on May 29, 2011 7:48:23 GMT -5
This quote caught my eye. Way more support was given to Adam Lambert than Kris Allen, and we all see how much effort the "Idol" machine put into launching Lee DeWyze's career.Was this true in the beginning? Kris got a great song for a lead single. I remember MJ's criticizing Adam's decision to become a "celebrity". Kris was doing small gigs while Adam was "partying". Adam was networking. He did Red Carpets, Magazine photo shoots (which he said he didn't get paid for), he gave an interesting interview. Every AI tour interview Adam won the reporter over with his charm. Dozens of interviews and different information came out in each one. Kris stated how he hated all those things. He was a home body who preferred to stay home. I have nothing against Kris and am not trying to make a Kris VS. Adam war. I just feel like Adam isn't being given enough credit. Did he start with more label support or did he earn it? That same quote caught my eye as well, as it seems to be a recurring meme in the Season 8 Fan Wars. I'm used to seeing Kris fans saying that, but was rather surprised to see Lyndsey Parker trot it out. I'm sure Q3, for one, has a much more informed opinion than I, but it seemed to me that Kris received every bit of the support he was entitled to as the AI winner. Someone on another board took the time to compile lists of Kris's television promo appearances versus Adam's (with David Cook's thrown in there as well) - I believe for album promo. Kris actually had a significantly longer list than Adam, and it was very much comparable with David's promo. Jive also effectively worked LLWD to radio (if memory serves, it had a slow start much as WWfM did, so I would guess Jive had to do some work to get it the required spins to catch on). I believe one thing that skewed perceptions may have been the amount of attention Adam received that was in some way self-generated, as opposed to label-generated or management-generated. Rolling Stone's cover story offer, the Young Hollywood Award, and the Barbara Walters 10 Most Interesting People special came to him, as opposed to being solicited for him. I've been under the impression the AMA performance was the same, although I don't know how such things work and could be wrong. And, of course, post-AMA press was a cottage industry unto itself for while. Plus, as kittykay noted, Adam busted his ass to network and keep his name out there. He must have been a dream client for 19 and RCA in that respect. Where his detractors saw "famewhore," they must have seen a young artist with the necessary industry savvy and drive to do whatever he could to promote himself, not just sit back and wait for promotional opportunities to be arranged for him. What made it even better was that he was so damn good at it. I'm sure I remember reading that his Grammy red carpet fashion correspondent gig with ET was initiated by him. He proposed it to ET, and personally, I thought it was a stroke of genius. Unlike, say, his labelmate and fellow new artist Ke$ha, he did not have any role in the Grammy ceremony, so he created one for himself. He got some TV face time, had the opportunity to interact with some of music's biggest names, and forged a nice symbiotic relationship with TV's foremost entertainment news magazine while he was at it. It was a win-win all around, and he could take full credit for it. RCA Ed has complimented Adam on how hard he works to come up with new goodies to share with his fans. I'm willing to bet his lobbying was absolutely instrumental in RCA's release of the remixes, the acoustic EP and the DVD/CD. Yes, Adam was brought back to mentor on AI, where Kris was not (nor was any other AI alumnus, for whatever reason). Yes, Adam received international promotion, where Kris did not (probably because the Sony foreign subsidiaries expressed no interest in him). But neither of those things was the norm for 19/RCA, and both had everything to do with attributes that Adam possessed that Kris did not. So to my mind, Adam's ability and willingness to work hard on his own behalf probably inspired RCA and 19 to work hard on his behalf, too. The fact that he knocked every promotional opportunity he was given out of the park didn't hurt, either (I know opinions vary on the AMA performance in that regard, but while there was certainly a downside, I suspect the long term effect was much more positive than not). And, let's face it, he's media-friendly and compelling in a way that Kris Allen just isn't. He's cute, nice and talented, but "cute, nice and talented" isn't enough to generate web clicks, magazine sales or TV ratings. Adam's ability to be a hoopla magnet serves him damn well, and to say he gets more press and attention just because he receives more backing from 19 and RCA is to miss the point. BTW, NoAngel, as much as I hate to make this overly long post even longer, I must add my voice to the chorus of compliments for this week's column. Adam has worked so hard for the right to stand there on the AI red carpet and pose happily with his significant other just as Kris Allen stood on that same red carpet with his own. To go from negotiating the minefield that was the release of "those photos" at the start of his AI run 2 1/2 years ago to posing proudly with his boyfriend at the finale celebration for AI must have felt like a sweet, sweet victory to him. Yes, things are changing, but I truly believe that Adam is an agent, as well as a beneficiary, of that change. When all is said and done, the significance of his career will go far beyond how many albums and concert tickets he sold during its course. I know it in the very fiber of my being.
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Post by 4Ms on May 29, 2011 7:53:20 GMT -5
This quote caught my eye. Way more support was given to Adam Lambert than Kris Allen, and we all see how much effort the "Idol" machine put into launching Lee DeWyze's career.Was this true in the beginning? Kris got a great song for a lead single. I remember MJ's criticizing Adam's decision to become a "celebrity". Kris was doing small gigs while Adam was "partying". Adam was networking. He did Red Carpets, Magazine photo shoots (which he said he didn't get paid for), he gave an interesting interview. Every AI tour interview Adam won the reporter over with his charm. Dozens of interviews and different information came out in each one. Kris stated how he hated all those things. He was a home body who preferred to stay home. I have nothing against Kris and am not trying to make a Kris VS. Adam war. I just feel like Adam isn't being given enough credit. Did he start with more label support or did he earn it? This quote from Lyndsey surprised me, too: Way more support was given to Adam Lambert than Kris Allen, and we all see how much effort the "Idol" machine put into launching Lee DeWyze's career.Kris won Idol and got the winners promotion. He gave countless radio interviews and promo performances. He was given more TV appearances than Adam. He was promoted by Disney. I'm sure there was more that I don't remember. Kris, however, is not a self-promoter. He neither wants the media attention nor knows how to use it to his advantage. Adam is simply in another league when it comes to promotion. He does his own & grabs whatever management gives him and runs with it. This reminds me of fans complaining that the producers gave Adam special treatment for his AI performances. As far as I know, any contestant could have had special lighting or walked down those stairs. The others simply didn't ask.
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Post by FanOfTheMan on May 29, 2011 7:58:32 GMT -5
NoAngel, I love every single word of your essay. You leave me in tears... I'm so happy for Adam that he found his love, he's doing what he loves to do and he keeps inspiring more and more people. Last night was a truly amazing night with all the craziness over twitter, but the most amazing part was after following the whole GNT journey and watching those online videos over and over, we finally heard him singing in full live concert mode again. Freshen our memories and reminded me that how good he always sounds in live! His Voice, damn, just damn!!! I'm new here but I've been a Adam fan since the beginning. Hello to everybody!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 8:02:43 GMT -5
Moscow to Helsinki:
5:10 pm Depart Moscow (SVO) Arrive Helsinki (HEL) 6:00 pm Sun 5-Jun Duration: 1hr 50mn Aeroflot-Russian Airlines 203 Nonstop flight OR
5:10 pm Depart Moscow (SVO) Arrive Helsinki (HEL) 6:00 pm Sun 5-Jun Duration: 1hr 50mn Finnair 6843 Nonstop flight :D
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 8:17:53 GMT -5
Translation: 0:00 - 0:45 "There might be a conflict brewing at the Maxidrom Rock festival between the fans of the pop artist Adam Lambert and the fans of the cult rock group Korn." - this rumor was on the internet before the concert started. Yuri Dontzov, one of the festival organizers: " About two and a half weeks ago we received a letter from Adam Lambert's fan asking about how Adam's fans would be protected. Then, the funniest happened - about a week ago we got a letter from Korn fans asking how THEY would be protected from Lambert's fans. 00:45 - 1:08- Even Korn Front man Johnathan Davis was skeptical about Lambert's performance at the event that over the years earned a reputation of being a Rock festival: "his participation is surrealistic..." 1:08 - 1:27 There were even threatening remarks from the fans of other groups. [the green hair person]: " The Prodigy fans will just beat Lambert up. There is no sense beating Lambert's fans - they are mostly girls, so we will beat Lambert. YES." 1:27 - 2:02 But the confrontation did not happen. Possibly due to the presence of the 2000 strong law enforcement or because of the 3 hours gap between the "light" performers and the hard rock segment. Yuri: " We intentionally placed the "light" performance like Brainstorm, Adam Lambert, Zemphira at the beginning of the festival and the "hard" once at the end". 2:03 - end As a result - everyone was happy with the festival. (the two cute guys said "everything is great", the girl was "all super great", the couple - "hard to get beer, but everything else is just great"). The organizers admitted that they did not have enough concession stands as they underestimated the attendance. Hot weather added to the problem. They promise to improve next year. The festival received a EU classification "A" for open air festivals which means that the festival will be able to host REAL MEGASTARS. ETA:posted in the Maxidrom thread as well. Considering they have shared the same keyboardist, this whole thing seems like drummed up drama. "his participation is surrealistic..." Could be a positive comment that was misinterpreted. Maybe surreal because an openly gay performer was invited to perform in Moscow's biggest music festival during a controversial weekend? Also, I'll bet the inquiry from Adam's "people" was how security was going to protect Adam. I think the Russian press and DJs may be worse, with the drama, than any we've seen.
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