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Post by bamafan on Dec 8, 2015 10:29:00 GMT -5
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Post by ghost on Dec 8, 2015 10:34:00 GMT -5
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Post by melliemom on Dec 8, 2015 10:51:00 GMT -5
Jordan Smith is very good.. I don't mind his singing a Freddie Mercury song and sounding a bit like Adam.. I think It's kind of wonderful..
An aside.. Adam is so busy ,what a breakneck schedule..I wonder what his concert tour is going to look like in terms of costumes,if any, staging,dancing,lighting,etc..I love his band and his singers/dancers...
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Post by 4EverAdam on Dec 8, 2015 11:24:34 GMT -5
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Post by red panda on Dec 8, 2015 11:36:30 GMT -5
Morning musings
I don't mind when one singer sings another singer's song, even if it is derivative. Adam gave credit to Dilana for his Middle Eastern approach to Ring of Fire. And Dilana apparently gave credit to Kashmir. More about giving credit later.
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I like that talented singers are inspired by other singers, and their choices of how to interpret a song. There are quite a few songs that I keep multiple versions of, just for that reason. I can easily see a singer thinking, "I really like that version, I can put my own spin on it." In other words, maybe the choice to sing that song is inspiration, not just copying. Not to be too pedestrian, but I quilt. There have been many times when I have been inspired by others' work.
As far as Jordan's version of Somebody to Love, I enjoyed it. As you all know, I am not a trained singer or even versed in music. But I can hear differences between Jordan's and Adam's version. Maybe someone who knows more could compare note by note and run by run and see more similarities than I do, but I just want to listen and enjoy. I didn't find Jordan's version jarring, and while I hold Adam in the highest, most stellar regard, the world would be pretty awful for me if I couldn't enjoy other singers music, or even their versions of other singers' music.
Adam is blessed with a natural love and presence and grace. He has had years of experience, even before AI. I'd like to give Jordan a little wiggle room in that this is probably overwhelming for him. He may have even meant to mention Adam, but forgot, or was so enthralled by his reception he didn't do it. Or maybe he felt he had put a different enough slant on it that he felt it was his own.
I guess I am feeling a little defensive/protective of Jordan. Not sure why that is, maybe something of his moment in the spotlight and not taking that away from him? Most people, even winners, do not go on to a big career in music after a singing competition. This may be it for Jordan as far as any singing career. Or that I do enjoy his voice, although I prefer the richness of Adam's. Maybe because Adam has all the physical blessings (that boy is hot), and Jordan is more like a real person, like me? Not sure.
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Post by cassie on Dec 8, 2015 11:41:00 GMT -5
www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/12/08/singer-songwriter-adam-lambert-delivers-theatrical-performance-at-connor-palaceSinger-Songwriter Adam Lambert Delivers Theatrical Performance at Connor Palace Concert Review Posted By Annie Zaleski on Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:25 am img_7300.jpg "I'm such a dork," Adam Lambert exclaimed near the start of his Monday night Connor Palace headlining set, as he sipped a concoction meant to soothe his voice. "I'm a theater kid who became a pop thing." That was certainly obvious during his highly entertaining hour-long show: The former American Idol contestant's stage moves (goofy hip swivels, pelvic thrusts, booty shakes and precise hand gestures) oozed subtle theatricality and lighthearted glamour, while his vocal performances were a masterful display of both emotional restraint and pointed outbursts. Backed by a six-piece band—including a guitarist, bassist, drummer, two backup singers and a keyboardist/musical director—Lambert focused heavily on his latest album, this year's The Original High. Live, the sophistication of these songs stood out—from the soulful Broadway vibe of "The Light" and the disco-kissed "Evil In The Night" to the Weeknd-reminiscent slow-burner "Underground" and the snappy, galloping standout "Another Lonely Night." Lambert's shapeshifting performance abilities were also on display: He opened the night by performing newer single, "Ghost Town," which segued neatly from being an acoustic guitar-based ballad into an insistent dancefloor banger, and later ably performed the flashy hard rock number "Lucy." The night also featured choice cuts from Lambert's back catalog, from the strutting disco-pop jam "Shady" (which found him dabbing himself with a towel and then tossing it into the crowd), a stripped-back version of hit "Whataya Want From Me" and the stutter-step, slam-glam hit "Trespassing." The latter featured a mid-song segue into Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust," which allowed Lambert to underscore just exactly why he's been touring in the Freddie Mercury slot with the legendary rock band. After this song, the theater lights came up, signaling the end of the set. However, after some rather robust cries of "Adam! Adam!" from the screaming crowd, he and his band returned for a reggae-pop version of "If I Had You." While technically proficient, the approach to the song was somewhat energy-deficient, and ended the night on a somewhat lethargic note. The siblings-comprised quartet Echosmith preceded Lambert with a sincere, cool-as-ice dreampop set, highlighted at the end by an extended take on the hit "Cool Kids."
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Post by melliemom on Dec 8, 2015 11:49:34 GMT -5
Morning musings I don't mind when one singer sings another singer's song, even if it is derivative. Adam gave credit to Dilana for his Middle Eastern approach to Ring of Fire. And Dilana apparently gave credit to Kashmir. More about giving credit later. from Wikipedia: I like that talented singers are inspired by other singers, and their choices of how to interpret a song. There are quite a few songs that I keep multiple versions of, just for that reason. I can easily see a singer thinking, "I really like that version, I can put my own spin on it." In other words, maybe the choice to sing that song is inspiration, not just copying. Not to be too pedestrian, but I quilt. There have been many times when I have been inspired by others' work. As far as Jordan's version of Somebody to Love, I enjoyed it. As you all know, I am not a trained singer or even versed in music. But I can hear differences between Jordan's and Adam's version. Maybe someone who knows more could compare note by note and run by run and see more similarities than I do, but I just want to listen and enjoy. I didn't find Jordan's version jarring, and while I hold Adam in the highest, most stellar regard, the world would be pretty awful for me if I couldn't enjoy other singers music, or even their versions of other singers' music. Adam is blessed with a natural love and presence and grace. He has had years of experience, even before AI. I'd like to give Jordan a little wiggle room in that this is probably overwhelming for him. He may have even meant to mention Adam, but forgot, or was so enthralled by his reception he didn't do it. Or maybe he felt he had put a different enough slant on it that he felt it was his own. I guess I am feeling a little defensive/protective of Jordan. Not sure why that is, maybe something of his moment in the spotlight and not taking that away from him? Most people, even winners, do not go on to a big career in music after a singing competition. This may be it for Jordan as far as any singing career. Or that I do enjoy his voice, although I prefer the richness of Adam's. Maybe because Adam has all the physical blessings (that boy is hot), and Jordan is more like a real person, like me? Not sure.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2015 11:52:57 GMT -5
(For me, Shoshanna tweeting about "negativity" kind of shines a light on "negativity" . . . I wish she would just strictly highlight, retweet, respond to "positive" stuff and provide facts if she is going to tweet. What is the "dream" she is saying is being projected onto Adam anyway? A Grammy nom?
And I am the only one who wants to tell Adam he is not a "dork," "nerd," all that stuff - I mean, I get why he says it, it's self-deprecatingly lovely, just a joke and such.
Finally, couldn't Shosh just say in response to Adam's carrot pic, "so funny"? Instead of "so handsome"? Clearly, I am too sensitive to "laughing with" vs. "laughing at," but Adam actually IS so handsome . . . and funny and COOL enough to laugh at himself. What's next? Is she going to call him "Adumb"?
I have no thoughts about Shoshanna doing whatever it is her job to do is, I am sure she does it more than fine enough for Adam/team to keep her - but her Twitter comments SOMETIMES seem unfortunate or uncomfortable to ME. I understand she has an actual, real relationship to Adam, one that seems on Twitter to involve almost a kind of big sister teasing nature to it, but when she tweets that out, to me, as she is also his rep., it is odd and off-putting. But I don't have Twitter and find a lot about it disturbing, anyway :/. I don't think it's a big deal, though, or anything, it's just a little thing to me.)
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Post by geezlouise on Dec 8, 2015 11:54:53 GMT -5
Morning musings I like that talented singers are inspired by other singers, and their choices of how to interpret a song. There are quite a few songs that I keep multiple versions of, just for that reason. I can easily see a singer thinking, "I really like that version, I can put my own spin on it." In other words, maybe the choice to sing that song is inspiration, not just copying. Not to be too pedestrian, but I quilt. There have been many times when I have been inspired by others' work. As far as Jordan's version of Somebody to Love, I enjoyed it. As you all know, I am not a trained singer or even versed in music. But I can hear differences between Jordan's and Adam's version. Maybe someone who knows more could compare note by note and run by run and see more similarities than I do, but I just want to listen and enjoy. I didn't find Jordan's version jarring, and while I hold Adam in the highest, most stellar regard, the world would be pretty awful for me if I couldn't enjoy other singers music, or even their versions of other singers' music. Adam is blessed with a natural love and presence and grace. He has had years of experience, even before AI. I'd like to give Jordan a little wiggle room in that this is probably overwhelming for him. He may have even meant to mention Adam, but forgot, or was so enthralled by his reception he didn't do it. Or maybe he felt he had put a different enough slant on it that he felt it was his own. I guess I am feeling a little defensive/protective of Jordan. Not sure why that is, maybe something of his moment in the spotlight and not taking that away from him? Most people, even winners, do not go on to a big career in music after a singing competition. This may be it for Jordan as far as any singing career. Or that I do enjoy his voice, although I prefer the richness of Adam's. Maybe because Adam has all the physical blessings (that boy is hot), and Jordan is more like a real person, like me? Not sure. I don't watch The Voice, but from what I have been reading online today, Jordan's coach..... Adam Levine (  ) is responsible for choosing the song and arrangement and for heavily coaching him on how to sing the song, where and how to sing runs etc. Read into this what you will................. |
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Post by cassie on Dec 8, 2015 11:54:35 GMT -5
Morning musings I don't mind when one singer sings another singer's song, even if it is derivative. Adam gave credit to Dilana for his Middle Eastern approach to Ring of Fire. And Dilana apparently gave credit to Kashmir. More about giving credit later. from Wikipedia: I like that talented singers are inspired by other singers, and their choices of how to interpret a song. There are quite a few songs that I keep multiple versions of, just for that reason. I can easily see a singer thinking, "I really like that version, I can put my own spin on it." In other words, maybe the choice to sing that song is inspiration, not just copying. Not to be too pedestrian, but I quilt. There have been many times when I have been inspired by others' work. As far as Jordan's version of Somebody to Love, I enjoyed it. As you all know, I am not a trained singer or even versed in music. But I can hear differences between Jordan's and Adam's version. Maybe someone who knows more could compare note by note and run by run and see more similarities than I do, but I just want to listen and enjoy. I didn't find Jordan's version jarring, and while I hold Adam in the highest, most stellar regard, the world would be pretty awful for me if I couldn't enjoy other singers music, or even their versions of other singers' music. Adam is blessed with a natural love and presence and grace. He has had years of experience, even before AI. I'd like to give Jordan a little wiggle room in that this is probably overwhelming for him. He may have even meant to mention Adam, but forgot, or was so enthralled by his reception he didn't do it. Or maybe he felt he had put a different enough slant on it that he felt it was his own. I guess I am feeling a little defensive/protective of Jordan. Not sure why that is, maybe something of his moment in the spotlight and not taking that away from him? Most people, even winners, do not go on to a big career in music after a singing competition. This may be it for Jordan as far as any singing career. Or that I do enjoy his voice, although I prefer the richness of Adam's. Maybe because Adam has all the physical blessings (that boy is hot), and Jordan is more like a real person, like me? Not sure. I thought Jordan did a very nice rendition of STL. Much better than most versions by other singers. As for copying Adam, no, I didn't do a note by note comparison. But, I heard nothing that screamed of him wholesale plagiarizing Adam's version. I am not sure what others are hearing. Adam does a lot of the phrasing and riffs that Freddie also did. It is not copying. That is the song. And, Freddie varied it in studio versions and live versions. I am sure Adam listened to a number of renditions to get a feel for what Freddie was doing with his song. Adam incorporated things that he thought represented the song as Freddie intended. I cannot think of anything Adam did in the song that was especially unique melodically. Melodramatically, he played with it a lot and to our delight. But, he didn't invent and patent certain phrases as his own. I would imagine that Jordan also listened to a variety of versions by Freddie, Adam, and others. He incorporated things he liked that he thought would fit his voice and style. Of course he did. What famous artist was it who said, "Everyone steals." Again, it is probably my background in musical theater and classical music, but I see nothing unusual in performing a song as it has been performed by others. In those genres, the song does not belong to an individual artist, but to the show or the composer, or the purpose for the composition. I see no need for Jordan to credit Adam any more than to credit Freddie. Jordan is young, but I have heard him grow even during the competition. Will he have a successful career afterwards? Vocally, is there a lane for him to fit in that will sell recordings? Will his less than attractive physical appearance (sorry if that sounds harsh, but appearance is VERY important in pop music) impede his trajectory? Who knows. I enjoyed watching his performance. Not perfect, but definitely entertaining. |
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