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6.12.11 Adam News & Info Jun 12, 2011 12:01:06 GMT -5

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Jun 12, 2011 11:51:41 GMT -5 seashell said:

Jun 12, 2011 11:08:29 GMT -5 Q3 said:

This is part of the why I ranted about this "sale" last week. But it took me until this week to realize that it proved that everything had changed.

You have an event album -- many retailers were told it was THE album of the year -- but consumers bought it online rather than on CD because it was only $0.99.

So the retailers paid to stock the CDs, they will have to pay to pull the CDs, and in the end the landfills will get much bigger.

But when Soundscan counted these as retail sales, that was then total end. The organization the industry uses to count sales save a digital album sold for $0.99 is a retail sale -- that means that albums essentially are just content for subscription services.

I believe I had read that Amazon paid the full (vendor) price to GAGA and took a loss to sell it at .99.. so it would count as a sale..

That matter for a wholesale sale for RIAA. For example, if I buy 1,000 FYEs from RCA and give them to everyone here -- that is 1,000 wholesale sale units, but 0 retail sale units.

When Amazon sold FYE for $3.99 in November 2009, those sales were not counted as retail sales.

Up until this event, a retail sale had to be at least 50% of the Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price to count as a Soundscan Retail sale. Two different things. Soundscan changed the rule without explanation but the belief is because they categorized it as a bundled sale with Amazon Cloud service BUT that is free right now.

The other theory is that it was a response to the FTC looking at unfair pricing practices in the music business. And there are questions about music pricing in the US being artificially supported by industry collusion -- the $1.29 iTunes track price increase deal looks like price fixing. UMG and Sony both raising CD prices at the same time. Etc.

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6.12.11 Adam News & Info Jun 12, 2011 12:03:24 GMT -5

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Jun 12, 2011 11:59:10 GMT -5 mszue said:

....what is the difference when we then say that Alisan was just looking for attention or Tommy isn't a good enough friend as he could stop all this any time he wished. If we really think that.....

The difference imo is: Are you tweeting these thoughts to Adam's friends? Discussing it here on a board/forum/comm is just human fan behaviour, but calling Adam's bf a leech and tweeting (or tumblering (?)) an insulting question to one of his best friends? Creepy, cray, #noboundaries! And that's the difference.

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Jun 12, 2011 11:51:48 GMT -5 nica575 said:

As far as I remember - in the recent interview back home - Sauli said something re supporting himself and living within his own means while in LA. He came across as a very self aware and proud person with lots of self esteem. It was great to read that - gave me a "good" feeling about him...

Exactly! Sauli was very adamant about making it clear that he is supporting himself and not living on someone else's expenses. Even if he is not a worldfamous celebrity, he has been working in Finland and living as an independent adult individual. Unfortunately it just seems that to some Adam's fans, no-one is good enough for him (except maybe they themselves : :))

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6.12.11 Adam News & Info Jun 12, 2011 12:09:39 GMT -5

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Jun 12, 2011 11:51:48 GMT -5 nica575 said:

Jun 12, 2011 11:45:07 GMT -5 stampsgal said:

Alisan was once asked what she thought of Drake, ...Drake and Adam.... (something like that)....and I thought her answer was very insightful "back then".

She said something like..."whomever makes Adam happy". Bang on!
In relation to her recent comment... it is pretty rare that we are all perfect about our decisions to respond or not respond. I know...I kick myself sometimes..like just last night when out for dinner with friends!

Re Moving: Those are big decisions... moving and making changes in life, career,closeness to friends/family. Change was almost a reality for me as well mid-career, but I had a 20 plus long marriage at that point. It is a big step for Sauli, in a fairly new relationship.

I was thinking if Sauli is paying his way while dating/living with ...whatever the relationship is...with Adam, ...he may have needed an extra boost with his income..so working for Dad while Adam travels etc. puts a few more pennies in the pocket. Good for him. He is not waiting at "home" by the pool (if Adam has one).

As far as I remember - in the recent interview back home - Sauli said something re supporting himself and living within his own means while in LA. He came across as a very self aware and proud person with lots of self esteem. It was great to read that - gave me a "good" feeling about him...

Exactly!!
I really appreciated understanding Sauli better through that interview. It was a rare interview, one in which we could actually learn a bit about who he was as a person. And I love that his Dad once said...if you can't get along with Sauli you best look at yourself in the mirror. Along with other BB2007 comments, he was spoken of as a really nice guy.

But a nice guy who has his own standards and pride.

Remember when Sauli said.... when I have done something remarkable ..yes... I will talk to all the media. That certainly said something about his character, sense of humour, maturity, and as you said nica575...his self awareness.

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6.12.11 Adam News & Info Jun 12, 2011 12:19:20 GMT -5

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Jun 12, 2011 11:59:10 GMT -5 mszue said:

I have to admit that we on this board have also criticized most of Adam's friends at different times and it often is probably both unfair, and undeserved.

Alisan probobaly has been the brunt of the most dissing for some unknown reason. And it is happening again....honestly do not understand why but....

Monte has been dissed for trying to make a living and for his wife's unfortunate rant...which he seems to have shut down.

Tommy has been dissed for not having 'enough' talent....fan service being his most noticable achievement....and now for not being diligent enough in stopping the fans that believed that fan service. What on earth does he have to do????

Longineau had little good said about him...ever...and he had a noisy gf that caused him grief too....

Both Cherry's have been consistently dissed....soon Riff is sure to get his share I suppose :-(

How long is it before the dissing of Sauli starts in??

It really bothers me when we see this as for the most part, these all seem to be really decent people trying to navigate another person's fame without damaging their own lives in the process. Some have been in Adam's life and heart long before he acquired this fame. If we see this person who tweeted Adam about Sauli as wrong and nasty....what is the difference when we then say that Alisan was just looking for attention or Tommy isn't a good enough friend as he could stop all this any time he wished. If we really think that.....then should we not first and foremost, expect Adam to stop it all??? Of course not...it is not Adam's, nor Alison's nor Tommy's nor Sauli's FAULT and there have only so much efficacy in the situation. I am rapidly learning that it just is what it is. I am sure there is quite a learning curve for all of them and they are doing their best.

I am so glad nobody knows me much or really cares what I do or do not do...or WHO I do for that matter! :-)

JMHO....not meant to harm, hurt or offend anyone....it is a generalized rant to the heavens of Atop

My personal opinion......

I think that we need to be really careful about generalizing....there is a wide diversity of opinion here.

1. It is OK to criticize any public figure, including Adam, here. Although, it is best to have a point in that criticism.

2. For me there is a big difference between criticizing personal behavior and critiquing someone's musical talent. I try to avoid the former, but when I have some knowledge, I reserve the right to critique any professional musician.

3. On the two specific musicians listed above....

-- Longineu was complimented by many as an extraordinary drummer on both PF and ATop 1. He was (IMO fairly) criticized for promoting Yellowcard when he was in Adam's touring band to Adam fans. I met him twice at GNTs and both times he made sure I knew that he was reforming Yellowcard and that they would be touring, releasing a new album.

-- Tommy is not a great bassist. He has improved but he still is not at the level of the other band members -- and will never approach Monte's skill level. (I play bass and rhythm guitar and feel competent to comment on this.) Tommy has his own fan group and is popular but not because he is a great musician -- he is mostly popular because young fans think he is cute. If Adam wants Tommy to be in the band, fine with me. I just do not want to have him playing lead guitar again.

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Putting MOD hat on (~~stole~~ borrowed that from HSM)

This board has no opinion, this board cannot make a post. Please be careful not to generalize about "this board".

I have never seen one thing that everyone who posts here agrees on except that.....

1. We want to have Adam #2 soon!

2. We want Adam to be happy.

3. Adam is a great vocalist.

(Sorry if I missed any points of total agreement! But there are not many!)

Thanks.

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6.12.11 Adam News & Info Jun 12, 2011 12:21:09 GMT -5

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Jun 12, 2011 12:14:44 GMT -5 @miachihu said:

I think we need something pretty and cute here...

Thank you mia :-*

How can someone not see the love?
No wonder when Adam talked to Perez said he loved the lyrics of Jessie J "Price Tag"

Okay, Coconut man, Moon Heads and Pea
You ready

Seems like everybody's got a price,
I wonder how they sleep at night.
When the sale comes first,
And the truth comes second,
Just stop, for a minute and
Smile

Why is everybody so serious
Acting so damn mysterious
Got your shades on your eyes
And your heels so high
That you can't even have a good time

Everybody look to their left (yeah)
Everybody look to their right (ha)
Can you feel that (yeah)
We're paying with love tonight
It's not about the money, money, money
We don't need your money, money, money
We just wanna make the world dance,
Forget about the Price Tag
Ain't about the (uh) Cha-Chang Cha-Chang.
Aint about the (yeah) Ba-Blang Ba-Blang
Wanna make the world dance,
Forget about the Price Tag.

Okay!
We need to take it back in time,
When music made us all unite
And it wasn't low blows and video hoes,
Am I the only one getting tired
Why is everybody so obsessed
Money can't buy us happiness
Can we all slow down and enjoy right now
Guarantee we'll be feeling Alright.

Everybody look to their left (yeah)
Everybody look to their right (ha)
Can you feel that (yeah)
We're paying with love tonight
It's not about the money, money, money
We don't need your money, money, money
We just wanna make the world dance,
Forget about the Price Tag
Ain't about the (uh) Cha-Chang Cha-Chang.

Aint about the (yeah) Ba-Blang Ba-Blang
Wanna make the world dance,
Forget about the Price Tag.

[B.o.B]
Yeah yeah
Well, keep the price tag
And take the cash back
Just give me six strings and a half stACK.
And you can keep the cars
Leave me the garage
And all I..
Yes all I need are keys and guitars
And its with in 30 seconds I'm leaving to Mars
Yeah we leaping across these undefeatable odds
Its like this man, you can't put a price on the life
We do this for the love so we fight and sacrifice everynight
So we aint gon stumble and fall never
Waiting to see this in the sign of defeat uh uh
So we gon keep everyone moving their feet
So bring back the beat and then everyone sing

It's not about the money, money, money
We don't need your money, money, money
We just wanna make the world dance,
Forget about the Price Tag
Ain't about the (uh) Cha-Chang Cha-Chang.
Aint about the (yeah) Ba-Blang Ba-Blang
Wanna make the world dance,
Forget about the Price Tag.

Free your mind and the rest will follow...
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6.12.11 Adam News & Info Jun 12, 2011 12:21:14 GMT -5

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Jun 12, 2011 11:35:50 GMT -5 rad1109 said:

Jun 12, 2011 11:26:49 GMT -5 tigerlily said:

Nah- they won't have to pay to pull Cds! BTW has sold over a million Cds, without the Amazon numbers, and it has only been out for three weeks. TEOG is quickly climbing the Pop and HAC charts and we still have the Christmas buying season coming up. I'm thinking the stores will be happy they have those Cds on hand over the next few months.

I believe she is one of those over-invested, delusional adommy fans. Crazy ass!

I agree she is. While it is Adam that I stan, and only Adam, I did like the interactions with the band. But I am quickly losing respect for Tommy for not speaking up to this band of delusional fans. I know it won't stop it but may force them further underground. It is appalling.

What I have seen of them is kind of scary. I do believe there are some serious issues there, quite unstable.

Sorry...no more...back to Adam. That So Beach studio is attached to a hotel???

I think this is a little unfair to Tommy. He's caught between a rock and a hard place. He may just feel like--you can't talk logic with deluded people, so why stir the hornet's nest? Look at Obama and the birthers. With no evidence whatsoever that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii, they're still insisting that no document he produces proves he's a U.S. citizen.

The Adommy nuts are just going to insist that Tommy was forced to deny his relationship with Adam, because, you know, it makes so-o-o-o much sense for Adam and Tommy to go to great lengths to hide their love while Adam pretends to be in love with someone else. :

I think Tommy is wise to just steer clear of these idiots as much as possible.