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Post by adamrocks on Jun 17, 2011 20:11:21 GMT -5
OT. Yesterday I caught the tail end of the two anchors of one if my local TV station talking about this thing Apple is trying to develop to stop people from recording a concert and the woman commentator said it sounded kind of like Big Brother to her. Then I got to thinking what if you were taping a big musical production at your son/daughter's high school on your phone.....are you going to be shut down too? There wouldn't be any copy right infringement so how can you not have the right to video the whole school musical production? Maybe I'm not understanding how it would work. The way I understand it, the venue would need to have sensors installed that would then detect an iPhone pointed at the stage, and then would temporarily disable the camera on the phone. So I think only concert halls and theatres would be inclined to install such technology. Although I wonder, even if the venue didn't have a sensor installed, maybe it is portable technology, that for example a performer could bring from venue to venue and install on the spot. Thanks, NoAngel. I thought maybe it was some kind if sensory device built into the iPhone. Of course I'm pretty technically 'challenged' so I know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about any of this! :-/ |
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Post by readon on Jun 17, 2011 20:18:31 GMT -5
The snooping an intrusiveness of techology and the internet is terrible. Yesterday, someone posted about trying to vote in a poll on twitter and it required access to your entire twitter account. It similiar on facebook if you try to vote in So you think you can dance. In order to vote you have to give access to all your friends, etc. This is ridiculous.
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Post by mszue on Jun 17, 2011 20:21:11 GMT -5
OT. Yesterday I caught the tail end of the two anchors of one if my local TV station talking about this thing Apple is trying to develop to stop people from recording a concert and the woman commentator said it sounded kind of like Big Brother to her. Then I got to thinking what if you were taping a big musical production at your son/daughter's high school on your phone.....are you going to be shut down too? There wouldn't be any copy right infringement so how can you not have the right to video the whole school musical production? Maybe I'm not understanding how it would work. I don't know any more than you....perhaps, it would seem, less but I understood the patent to be for technology built in to the iphone itself that would detect the basic commonalities of a performance situation. Either way, I can't see it being developed....call me Pollyanna. The article I saw originated in the UK and there is much more 'Big Brothering' going on there at this time...and so much more fear. The possibilities are endless...and scary... The way I understand it, the venue would need to have sensors installed that would then detect an iPhone pointed at the stage, and then would temporarily disable the camera on the phone. So I think only concert halls and theatres would be inclined to install such technology. Although I wonder, even if the venue didn't have a sensor installed, maybe it is portable technology, that for example a performer could bring from venue to venue and install on the spot. |
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Post by NoAngel on Jun 17, 2011 20:21:13 GMT -5
Well, the Apple technology brings up an interesting question about whether concert recordings help or hurt an artist. It seems to me that in Adam's case, the YT vids served the purpose of giving hard-core stans a chance to "see" Adam's performances when they couldn't be there in person. I doubt whether anyone who watched a vid decided that they wouldn't go to a real concert because they've already seen it online, lol. In fact it may have done just the opposite-- whetted people's appetites and made them want to see him more often. Not to mention, that for people who live in parts of the world where Adam didn't perform, it was their only chance to see him at all, until we learned there would be a GNT Live DVD.
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Post by mszue on Jun 17, 2011 20:26:05 GMT -5
The snooping an intrusiveness of techology and the internet is terrible. Yesterday, someone posted about trying to vote in a poll on twitter and it required access to your entire twitter account. It similiar on facebook if you try to vote in So you think you can dance. In order to vote you have to give access to all your friends, etc. This is ridiculous. That comment was from me readon and I went to vote on one of the multitudes of voting-opps we get here [ :   ] but the site wanted you to log on through either twitter or facebook. I clicked on twitter and the disclosure agreement wanted not only the usual tracking stuff but wanted you to agree to their tracking of your 'dm's'....I was flabbergasted and cancelled...there were very few comments to the article/vote [seriously, I have forgotten now] and that is no wonder. I don't remember ever noticing that stipulation. Makes you wonder how many people do not notice that difference!! seriously, WTF |
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Post by NoAngel on Jun 17, 2011 20:26:32 GMT -5
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Post by reihmer on Jun 17, 2011 20:27:32 GMT -5
If its only Apple that's implementing this "Big Brother" software/hardware then the solution is simple. Bring other recording devices into the venue And I'm pretty sure some hacker along the way is going to crack this technology like the debacle that happened with the Ps3 or whatever it was. |
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Post by NoAngel on Jun 17, 2011 20:32:31 GMT -5
If its only Apple that's implementing this "Big Brother" software/hardware then the solution is simple. Bring other recording devices into the venue And I'm pretty sure some hacker along the way is going to crack this technology like the debacle that happened with the Ps3 or whatever it was. Exactly. The best vids from GNT were not from iPhones, but recording cameras. And it seemed to take no time at all after the end of a concert for someone to get to a laptop, upload the vid, and tweet it out. This seems like a wasted effort, imo. |
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Post by mszue on Jun 17, 2011 20:33:00 GMT -5
Well honestly this tech. has about as much chance of success as the attempts to thwart file sharing on the internet...ain't going to happen. Do you suppose the patent application is just to look good for the music corps while tying the tech. up in patent-limbo...Apple people are not stupid...are they? no...? haha. The smart thing is always to make use of the new technologies not to fight them...you can not win so why start a fight you can't win...makes no sense whatsoever.
Tell that to the fighters in the middle east...... sigh
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2011 20:40:17 GMT -5
Well, the Apple technology brings up an interesting question about whether concert recordings help or hurt an artist. It seems to me that in Adam's case, the YT vids served the purpose of giving hard-core stans a chance to "see" Adam's performances when they couldn't be there in person. I doubt whether anyone who watched a vid decided that they wouldn't go to a real concert because they've already seen it online, lol. In fact it may have done just the opposite-- whetted people's appetites and made them want to see him more often. Not to mention, that for people who live in parts of the world where Adam didn't perform, it was their only chance to see him at all, until we learned there would be a GNT Live DVD. I don't see how it could hurt an artist unless they are horrible live. The You Tube doesn't come close to the concert experience. Hell, Glam Nation Live DVD doesn't even come close to the concert experience! And, if someone is curious and watches a You Tube, I think it would be more likely they would be enticed to go and see the show live, not the other way around. |
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] but the site wanted you to log on through either twitter or facebook. I clicked on twitter and the disclosure agreement wanted not only the usual tracking stuff but wanted you to agree to their tracking of your 'dm's'....I was flabbergasted and cancelled...there were very few comments to the article/vote [seriously, I have forgotten now] and that is no wonder. I don't remember ever noticing that stipulation. Makes you wonder how many people do not notice that difference!! seriously, WTF
