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Post by Buderschnookie on Aug 21, 2011 8:45:42 GMT -5
ETA: On page 20 of yesterday's thread at 12:00 a.m. (sorry can't seem to bring the pic over) Reimer posted a pic of Adam at a table. Refresh my memory. Right after that pic originally showed up....didn't a family member of one of the contestants post some nasty stuff about Adam. I can't remember what it was, but everytime I see that picture, I feel sad. If it was the pre-Idol party it was Gokey's cousins that said some nasty things about Adam on Facebook/where ever. I think they even took some photos of Adam "dressed up" (Halloween painted green photos, I think) just to have Adam sign them as kind if a "we know you're a pervert" move- this was long before the Brad/kissing photos went really public.
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Post by bocababe on Aug 21, 2011 8:46:53 GMT -5
ETA: On page 20 of yesterday's thread at 12:00 a.m. (sorry can't seem to bring the pic over) Reimer posted a pic of Adam at a table. Refresh my memory. Right after that pic originally showed up....didn't a family member of one of the contestants post some nasty stuff about Adam. I can't remember what it was, but everytime I see that picture, I feel sad. That would be the Clan Gokey, and yeah, it was...not good: Gokey-Gate on ONTD
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Post by savvy92 on Aug 21, 2011 9:18:56 GMT -5
ETA: On page 20 of yesterday's thread at 12:00 a.m. (sorry can't seem to bring the pic over) Reimer posted a pic of Adam at a table. Refresh my memory. Right after that pic originally showed up....didn't a family member of one of the contestants post some nasty stuff about Adam. I can't remember what it was, but everytime I see that picture, I feel sad. That would be the Clan Gokey, and yeah, it was...not good: Gokey-Gate on ONTD I swear that brought back all the old feelings of disgust with those who made Adam's journey and life that much more difficult, but after a deep breath I remembered where Adam is today, what he has accomplished, and the man he has become. It doesn't dispel all the anger, but it dulls it a bit and channels it to pity for the narrow-minded and mean spirited of the world. Oh, and only because it's Sunday and I'm trying to be a good person will I not stick my tongue out and comment on how Adam HAS become an incredible role model for so many which one of the comments snidely feared.
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Post by needacoke on Aug 21, 2011 9:19:17 GMT -5
ETA: On page 20 of yesterday's thread at 12:00 a.m. (sorry can't seem to bring the pic over) Reimer posted a pic of Adam at a table. Refresh my memory. Right after that pic originally showed up....didn't a family member of one of the contestants post some nasty stuff about Adam. I can't remember what it was, but everytime I see that picture, I feel sad. That would be the Clan Gokey, and yeah, it was...not good: Gokey-Gate on ONTD If I remember correctly, #gokeyisadouche (or somehting like that) even trended on Twitter.
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Post by adamme on Aug 21, 2011 9:29:22 GMT -5
Q3 here's a little video that was made in 2009 in response to the Out Magazine. Should We keep it handy? ;D Lulu.. this is so cool.. wonder if someone tweetted this to the guy 2 years ago hhhmm ??? Q3 and NoAngle.. love both open letters to this guy. I think almost all of us share the same feeling and we're survivors of all the gates... I think now we're all watching what's going to happen. I'm not a pearlclutcher but Adam was asked to do this again before Adam#2 is released so.. I'm hoping (just like all of us hoping) that this guy will not mess up with Adam & us again. btw... are we going to send these two open letters to Out?? ;D ;D ;D ;D Such a beautiful Sunday morning, after we got rains last night. So.. I think Ima gonna checking out the beach today. Happy Sunday morning peeps! :D
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Post by lulu2365 on Aug 21, 2011 9:44:31 GMT -5
To go along with my twitter theme whinying this morning. A local radio station that I follow on twitter just tweeted this. Sauli has an iphone doesn't He. ;D @z1035toronto 83% of iPhone users believe another iPhone user would make the best romantic partner. Memories of Adam tweeting... ;D
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Post by spring2009 on Aug 21, 2011 9:53:55 GMT -5
We might just have to look at pictures of Adam using His cell phone.... OMG I will take these boots over those medges any day of the week, super super hot. The medges are fugly
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Post by SusieFierce on Aug 21, 2011 9:55:59 GMT -5
Q3and NoAngel, love your letters. I am too a little confused by your line about Hicklin being up to his old tricks. ???
The post that Lulu brought over from the "insider" at ontd_ai covers much of what I was going to say. As a magazine editor, I can tell you, that sounds much more consistent with the way things are done. A few details about how things work:
• All covers/interviews are negotiated between a subject and their management (usually PR reps). There are two ways someone can end up on a cover – the PR people pitch their client and convince editors this is an awesome story or the editors decide who they want and approach the subject's PR/management.
• EVERY SINGLE PERSON WITH PR REPRESENTATION WILL HAVE SOME KIND OF REQUEST ABOUT HOW THEY ARE HANDLED. (Even if it's the owner of the corner doughnut store.) Celebrity/politician demands are totally commonplace. JLo is notorious for demanding her entourage of 20+ come to photoshoots, etc.
• The publication is under no obligation to adhere to those requests/demands, but they will not secure the interview if they don't try to at least meet half way.
• PR reps will give talking points [And again, this is a point where professionalism and cooperation benefit everyone – no one wants to piss off a potential contact – editors and producers are a PR person's bread and butter. If they have antagonized over one client, they can kiss all other pitches for that and other clients goodbye ... or, they'll have a very difficult time of it.] In the same vein, if your magazine is a national publication that wants celebs to do major profiles and covers, you do NOT antagonize a company that handles a lot of celebrities. Your publication will garner a reputation for being deceitful and underhanded.
• A PR persons job is to manage their client's image, so of course, they're going to say, "We really want to focus on the album, the music, #message #message #message ..." Again, these are REQUESTS; the writer/editor will usually say, "Sure, but we also want to examine this as well ..." Many interviews (when profiles, and not hard-hitting political cross-examinations) will take the form of a conversation (as we have seen countless times with Adam.) The interviewer has their list of questions, but those are primarily for backup. If a source is chatting away – you let him or her go ... unless they're rambling about completely irrelevant stuff, then you steer the conversation back on topic.
• The point of covers, particularly celebrity covers, is to draw a new audience or to get people to pick up your magazine who never had before, so therefore, I see no problem with people who are not regular readers to give feedback.
• It all comes down to professionalism. What Hicklin did was the height of blindsiding and bullying. It was unconscionable and how he wasn't fired over it, I have NO idea. (Unless he has dirt on the publisher or something.) I am inclined to agree with the ontd_ai "source" that it was a blatant ploy to generate controversy. It was completely fucked up on every level.
And I REALLY hope they groveled to get this second interview with Adam. If he took the high road on this, he truly IS a candidate for sainthood.
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Post by wal on Aug 21, 2011 9:57:12 GMT -5
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Post by sangria on Aug 21, 2011 10:01:16 GMT -5
Thanks so much for all the pics and gifs these last couple days guys! You all are amazing! I hopped on the stan train late so many of these pics are new to me and it's like discovering him all over again Sure does help to pass the time while waiting for new music And wow that belt buckle is.......something else. Have we ever seen him wearing it again?
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