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Post by cassie on Jan 28, 2018 16:01:33 GMT -5
I have a surprise/birthday gift for y'all. Angelina Kalahari and I had a lively discussion about the recent QAL tour and Adam's growth as an artist. She just uploaded the first part on YouTube. I haven't even had a chance to listen yet, but I am excited to share Angelina's perspectives and thoughts. (Please excuse the sometimes dodgy sound quality, but we were chatting across the Atlantic Ocean.) www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DZ8FFeeNWs&feature=em-uploademail
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Post by cassie on Jan 28, 2018 16:04:23 GMT -5
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Post by bamafan on Jan 28, 2018 16:09:20 GMT -5
YAY! Gonna get comfy on this rainy, lazy Sunday afternoon and listen to these.....chat away gurls...lol
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Post by LinkinBert on Jan 28, 2018 16:10:28 GMT -5
Yup, to a lot of the general public he's just a one hit wonder and that's all there is to it. Most people only know him for WWFM and in pop music that song was a hit a long long time ago. I don't agree with one hit wonder for public comment..Adam is very well known and I don't believe Adam has a problem ,I think mainstream America has the problem I often discuss Adam in my other fandoms and tbh his sexuality has never been mentioned as an issue to anyone. They just literally don't know what he's done besides WWFM (some MIGHT know Ghost Town) and being in Queen. I think he could also use some improvement in self promotion compared to the other artists I follow. Being more interactive on SM would help a ton. Potential fans get bored and move on otherwise.
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Post by melliemom on Jan 28, 2018 16:16:12 GMT -5
I don't agree with one hit wonder for public comment..Adam is very well known and I don't believe Adam has a problem ,I think mainstream America has the problem I often discuss Adam in my other fandoms and tbh his sexuality has never been mentioned as an issue to anyone. They just literally don't know what he's done besides WWFM (some MIGHT know Ghost Town) and being in Queen. Because they don't follow him as fans.. I'm the same way about most popular singers.. don't know a thing about what they are doing..
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Post by girldrummer on Jan 28, 2018 16:16:14 GMT -5
IMHO, apples and oranges Can't compare Adam to Jennifer....very different on many levels .If you think the music business is homophobic ,the movie business is worse..THey keep using straight actors to play gay folks.. Like they used to hire white actors to play African American parts I would also love to see Adam do all that you mention I believe he,at this point, has a harder time than Jennifer even though He is multi-talented and gorgeous .. Did you read the article by Justin Tranter,this morning that I put on Adamtopia. Adam didn't get to sing for Geroge Michel on national TV or invited to do honors for Elton John,although Sam Smith will do so. Adam is doing incredibly well,especially for being himself,sexy ,talented and no holds barred.BTW It took many lifetimes for African Americans to get great roles on TV and in movies.It didn't happen over night.. Adam is a pioneer Along those lines, here is an article from 2016 on the rise of Sam Smith. It still stings. And not because it sings the praises of Sam (not jealous of Sam and his success, lol) but because it shows the hurdles Adam had and still has to jump thru. Sam Smith’s Pop Rise: How a UK Soul Man Came Out and Still Became America’s Next Top IdolAdam Lambert hung on to his burgeoning fan base but only had modest success as a recording artist after coming out as a gay man in 2009, three weeks after coming in second on American Idol. Although his second album, 2012’s Trespassing, made him the first openly gay singer to score a No. 1 album on Billboard‘s Top 200 chart, it didn’t even go gold. Frank Ocean earned critical acclaim and Grammy attention after revealing that he’d once fallen in love with a man before the release of his 2012 debut album, channel ORANGE, but that didn’t translate to blockbuster status for the merely gold-selling ORANGE or Jason DeRulo-sized hit singles. But still, why Smith and not Adam Lambert, who at one point seemed to be as poised on the verge as Smith is now? Timing, for one thing. Acceptance of gays has evolved in the five years since Lambert was the American Idol runner-up, with gay marriage no longer an out-of-reach dream but a reality for more than half of all Americans, and television brimming with gay representation. Also, unlike Lambert, Smith undersells himself. There’s no flash, no attention-grabbing antics, no controversy. (Lambert infamously kissed a male member of his band and shoved the face of another into his crotch while performing at the American Music Awards in 2009.) It’s hard to imagine baby-faced Smith making anyone squirm. www.huffingtonpost.com/jeremy-helligar/sam-smiths-pop-rise_b_5494920.htmlVERY interesting and insightful article. Sam and Adam are totally different. Adam cannot act like Sam and vice versa. But Sam's rather neutral persona is certainly paying off. It's true that times have changed since Adam's Idol year. That's an understatement. Sam may not realize it, but he is reaping the benefits of that "time between" then and now. I was once chastised (not on Atop) for posting that Adam should be more "palatable." I was attacked for suggesting that Adam "fake it" and not "be himself." Personally, I love Adam just the way he is, and I love his overt sexuality and flamboyance. But the music-buying public does judge singers on the persona they present. The AMA thing still lurks in Adam's past as a moment of poor judgement IMHO. It was too early, too presumptuous, too in-your-face for that time and place. "The public" in general had not gotten to know him yet, not seen his humor and engaging personality. Adam also lived an overt, public gay life before Idol and couldn't very well change into a more "gender neutral" public gay man. I don't think Sam ever took that risk. Sam's careful choices have paid off. He fills the arenas, gets the big guest gigs, sells the millions. He played it safe and has reaped the benefits. Adam has to still find a path that makes his music and his persona feel right to people who buy music.
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Post by melliemom on Jan 28, 2018 16:18:41 GMT -5
I don't agree with one hit wonder for public comment..Adam is very well known and I don't believe Adam has a problem ,I think mainstream America has the problem I often discuss Adam in my other fandoms and tbh his sexuality has never been mentioned as an issue to anyone. They just literally don't know what he's done besides WWFM (some MIGHT know Ghost Town) and being in Queen. Because they don't follow him as fans. They know more about Adam than I do about other singers.If I'm not a fan why would I know what they are doing.
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Post by skaschep on Jan 28, 2018 16:23:45 GMT -5
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Post by lurleene on Jan 28, 2018 16:24:25 GMT -5
VERY interesting and insightful article. Sam and Adam are totally different. Adam cannot act like Sam and vice versa. But Sam's rather neutral persona is certainly paying off. It's true that times have changed since Adam's Idol year. That's an understatement. Sam may not realize it, but he is reaping the benefits of that "time between" then and now. I was once chastised (not on Atop) for posting that Adam should be more "palatable." I was attacked for suggesting that Adam "fake it" and not "be himself." Personally, I love Adam just the way he is, and I love his overt sexuality and flamboyance. But the music-buying public does judge singers on the persona they present. The AMA thing still lurks in Adam's past as a moment of poor judgement IMHO. It was too early, too presumptuous, too in-your-face for that time and place. "The public" in general had not gotten to know him yet, not seen his humor and engaging personality. Adam also lived an overt, public gay life before Idol and couldn't very well change into a more "gender neutral" public gay man. I don't think Sam ever took that risk. Sam's careful choices have paid off. He fills the arenas, gets the big guest gigs, sells the millions. He played it safe and has reaped the benefits. Adam has to still find a path that makes his music and his persona feel right to people who buy music. I agree that the AMA's hurt him in the US. But my goodness, Adam has been on US tv so often since then and has done nothing to offend anyone. What more can he do other than disappear all together to please some people? At this point, it is time for them to stop holding the AMA's against him. And no one wants another Sam Smith. I thought Troye was the one of the moment and he is not like Sam either. He just did SNL. I didn't like his singing and his attempt at sexy was not sexy, unless you think someone who looks 12 is sexy but there he was, lol.
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Post by skaschep on Jan 28, 2018 16:25:10 GMT -5
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