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Post by nightowl on Feb 5, 2018 12:31:26 GMT -5
Ok, I see now, that it was just speculation with the Oslo date. Besides, there is a bridge between Sweden and Denmark, as far as I know. Or did they build a tunnel as well??? There is a bridge that turns into a tunnel. Guess I had that one in mind. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98resund_BridgeThanks, that is the one I meant. I didn’t know, that it’s combined with a tunnel.
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Post by skaschep on Feb 5, 2018 12:33:19 GMT -5
Ok, I see now, that it was just speculation with the Oslo date. Besides, there is a bridge between Sweden and Denmark, as far as I know. Or did they build a tunnel as well??? And out of curiosity: Are we in Germany the only country, that doesn’t allow trucks on its highways on a Sunday? (By the way: also on Saturdays in July/August, but then the tour should be back in the UK). I don't know much about other countries. In our country (the Netherlands) it's not forbidden, but the transport has to be necessary to do on a Sunday. So you do see trucks on Sunday, but less than on normal weekdays. I just checked. You can't drive a big truck in Italy as well on Sundays.
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Post by Craazyforadam on Feb 5, 2018 12:35:11 GMT -5
Ok, I see now, that it was just speculation with the Oslo date. Besides, there is a bridge between Sweden and Denmark, as far as I know. Or did they build a tunnel as well??? And out of curiosity: Are we in Germany the only country, that doesn’t allow trucks on its highways on a Sunday? (By the way: also on Saturdays in July/August, but then the tour should be back in the UK). Yes, I missed the Sweden-Denmark tunnel. Alps have tunnels too, but you first have to get to them. Traffic as well as altitude wise. And there are other countries with no-truck rules. Here is one Austrian site for example (in German, sorry). I picked it because Austria matters when you go south to get to Milano, and anyhow, its where I am from, so I am biased, and as this web site shows, the details are a tad more tricky, i.e. weight of trucks matters, day and night matters. So, it is not only weekend travel. www.wko.at/service/verkehr-betriebsstandort/LKW_Fahrverbote_in_Oesterreich_Ueberblick.htmlAnyhoo, the point was only to say that the proposed schedule is not going to be possible, and that has long been agreed, so there is no further point to be made. It is going to be something similar to that schedule though, and probably still a pretty crazy criss-cross schedule, no matter what it ends up being in the end, and whoever has to do the logistics for these trucks and buses will truly earn their keep, that is for sure. Oh, and I am glad that I don't have to spend that much time on the road. Going from Spain to DE or wherever the next stop is, without France or at least Switzerland to have a stopover, alone is insanity, imo.
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Post by nightowl on Feb 5, 2018 12:39:46 GMT -5
Ok, I see now, that it was just speculation with the Oslo date. Besides, there is a bridge between Sweden and Denmark, as far as I know. Or did they build a tunnel as well??? And out of curiosity: Are we in Germany the only country, that doesn’t allow trucks on its highways on a Sunday? (By the way: also on Saturdays in July/August, but then the tour should be back in the UK). I don't know much about other countries. In our country (the Netherlands) it's not forbidden, but the transport has to be necessary to do on a Sunday. So you do see trucks on Sunday, but less than on normal weekdays. But that’s almost the same as in Germany. Trucks transporting fresh food or some with other necessary loads (and extra allowance) can be seen on the highways. I don’t think Queen ‚a trucks would be allowed though😉). And I checked on the internet: there are also no trucks on Sundays allowed in Austria, France and a few other countries. Uff: Planning these tours isn’t easy...
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Post by skaschep on Feb 5, 2018 12:43:53 GMT -5
I don't know much about other countries. In our country (the Netherlands) it's not forbidden, but the transport has to be necessary to do on a Sunday. So you do see trucks on Sunday, but less than on normal weekdays. But that’s almost the same as in Germany. Trucks transporting fresh food or some with other necessary loads (and extra allowance) can be seen on the highways. I don’t think Queen ‚a trucks would be allowed though😉). And I checked on the internet: there are also no trucks on Sundays allowed in Austria, France and a few other countries. Uff: Planning these tours isn’t easy... There is indeed more to it than just draw a line and take the closest spots together. My fast attempt at drawing a tour schedule failed miserable at least.
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Post by nightowl on Feb 5, 2018 12:46:11 GMT -5
] Oh, and I am glad that I don't have to spend that much time on the road. Going from Spain to DE or wherever the next stop is, without France or at least Switzerland to have a stopover, alone is insanity, imo. Yes, I would plan a stopover as well. But I‘m not a truck-driver. When I look at all the trucks on German Highways, many, many of them just cross our country. It’s simply normal for truck-drivers to have these long tours. And when I drive from Berlin to Milan it takes about 10 hours, to Rome 14 hours. Not really a problem (with 2drivers and no traffic jam 😉).
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Post by girldrummer on Feb 5, 2018 12:53:30 GMT -5
Looking at the Europe map I think it will go closely like this: June 7th Lisbon 8th Spain June 13th Cologne Before or after Cologne: Belgium / The Netherlands (this last one could be Pinkpop, the biggest festival here in the Netherlands which is on 15/16/17 June) June 19th Hamburg June 20th Berlin 22/23 Denmark Norway June 25th Milan Then off to UK July 2nd O2 This is all doable with the trucks. Only Milan is out of the way. But the 2 day gap between the Scandinavian dates and Milan will give room for that. There is some room around Cologne and after Milan though for more concerts. There are only 11 locations on this list and the Italian article said 12 concerts. However I think not all is settled in yet. We'll find out soon enough. ETA: Belgium is also possible between Milan and UK. It's not completely on route, but doable. Distances in Europe aren't that big. ETA2: And yes this will mean 7 of the 12 concerts are still in spring. So spring is not that weird to say. Although Summer sounds a lot more better weather wise. Which it hopefully is. I agree that some of this could work, but having a concert in Oslo on the 23rd, and then after midnight, so technically on the 24th leaving Oslo and being in Milan with 21 trucks and buses, ready for soundcheck on the 25th, is not reasonable. Sorry, I am a tad familar with European geography too, and the way the crow flies, this is reasonable, but while the US flyover country lets you cruise at full speed all the time, in Europe, you are going through densely populated country and over heavily traveled freeways, have to clear borders and for trucks that still matters, you are crossing the alps, and you take a ferry, and you want to do all that within 24 hours? Good luck. And you realize that 6/24 is a Sunday, and you cannot use German freeways with a truck that day. lol That plan sounds like Thelma and Luise going from Oklahoma to Mexico without going through Texas. Remember that one. I have June 25, 27 and 29 penciled in on my calendar for Milan, Glasgow and Wembley. Then a show on July 2 (Wembley?) Guess things are still in a state of flux.
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Post by nightowl on Feb 5, 2018 12:59:22 GMT -5
girldrummer The dates skachep mentioned in her previous post (Lisbon, Cologne, Berlin, Hamburg, Milan and Llndon (O2) are fix and announced. The dates for Glasgow and Wembley were rumors and seem not to be true. They don’t fit with the other announcements (12 dates).
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Post by skaschep on Feb 5, 2018 13:03:58 GMT -5
BBC Music @bbcmusic 💥@queenwillrock + @adamlambert are ready to rock you with a European tour in the Summer ☀️ 👉http://bbc.in/2BWziPS Queen announced European summer dates, including one in London
The veteran rockers, ably-assisted by the vocal aerobics of singer Adam Lambert, have announced a run of shows, following up their 25-date tour which wrapped up in December last year. Alongside shows in Italy and Germany, the band return to London’s O2 Arena on 2 July Guitarist Dr Brian May said: “While we're still physically able to perform at those high energy levels on this massive scale, we thought... ‘YES !! One more around the block!’ "It’s live, it’s dangerous, and it takes every ounce of fitness we can muster. But it’s still fun!“ We assume the "danger" is largely experienced by the 70-year-old musician and his 68-year old bandmate Roger Taylor.
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Post by happy on Feb 5, 2018 13:13:17 GMT -5
The things you learn on Atop! Now I know lots more about driving trucks across Europe! lol I've never heard about truck restrictions on highways before. It doesn't happen in Canada, except maybe a lane restriction on some of the expressways.
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