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Post by FanOfTheMan on Sept 28, 2011 9:01:00 GMT -5
I don't get the hate for Heidi's interview here? IDK, I thought they came across as comfortable and playful with each other and I thought Heidi was sweet and friendly and asking casual questions. I certainly didn't read any ill intent in her attitude or questioning and I am wondering if some people are projecting here? Not everyone is out to get/insult/hurt Adam...ikd idk. I'll leave it at that and leave you to your own opinions on the matter. I agree - I thought they seemed very comfortable and playful with each other. Also, maybe if enough super-models tell Adam how fit and good he looks he will eventually believe it! I thought it was a delightful interview. Both Heidi and Adam seemed to be enjoying each other. 8-)
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Post by sangria on Sept 28, 2011 9:02:16 GMT -5
I'm sure you are right and I'm OK with that pic. But - there are a lot of people thinking like Irish and that's why I think it was perhaps unnecessary to tweet that pic. Here is one example from Adam 24/7 news: " It seems as if he is trying to sabotage himself. Make himself less attractive and more apt to not be thought of as a serious person. No one who loves him cares that he's gay, but the fence sitters look and say "Oh, he's one of those freaky ones." You don't see Ricky Martinez or Clay Aiken or Elton looking less thAN their best." : ??? Well everyone is entitled to their opinions, but to me, whoever said that is a pearl clutcher or a troll. And if it is a legit fan I have to wonder... DO THEY EVEN KNOW WHO THEY STAN? Srsly. He has always been outrageous and wearing crazy stuff and shit. Who gives a flying fuck what the fence sitters say? This was him hanging out at a gay club, looking fierce and doing what he has done for years. If you try to please everyone then you please NO ONE. I am thinking this is a troll. But whatever. As much as I personally like his more toned down looks and like to get all rage-y over his hair, lol, in the end it's his bidness how he chooses to present himself. I don't even know why this is an issue. It was a party pic with some gay dudes and some wacky hair, ya think the famdom would be used to this stuff by now LOL. I'm gonna have to go with Chunkey on this. I know we all want for Adam to be loved but I want him to be loved for who he is, all sides of him. And this is part of who he is, he goes out, he parties, he hangs out with people dressed in.... whatever the hell that dude was dressed in. Maybe my opinion is coloured by the fact that I found nothing at all objectionable about the photo. But there it is. He's not everyone's cup of tea, and that's ok.
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Post by katycake on Sept 28, 2011 9:05:27 GMT -5
Q3 from pg. 1: I looked for the fan vid "Straight to No. 1", which most of you are probably familiar with : , and got this message (translated from Hebrew): "This video has been removed because its content violated YouTube's terms and restrictions". Does anyone know what this is about?
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Post by bobo on Sept 28, 2011 9:09:00 GMT -5
I'm sure you are right and I'm OK with that pic. But - there are a lot of people thinking like Irish and that's why I think it was perhaps unnecessary to tweet that pic. Here is one example from Adam 24/7 news: " It seems as if he is trying to sabotage himself. Make himself less attractive and more apt to not be thought of as a serious person. No one who loves him cares that he's gay, but the fence sitters look and say "Oh, he's one of those freaky ones." You don't see Ricky Martinez or Clay Aiken or Elton looking less thAN their best." : ??? Without telling people what to think etc and not having a direct line to Adam's thoughts...... I believe that this doing what he wants, when, where and how he wants is Adam keeping it real. After all that is partially why we stan him. Isn't it?? ETA Chunkey and Aspen are much more elequent than me ITA. ETA2 Get me using ETA correctly lol. : Pls don't get me wrong. As I said the pic was OK for me.I love Adam as he is. My point was the pic perhaps gave unnecesseraly fuel to those trolls.
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Post by gelly14 on Sept 28, 2011 9:09:05 GMT -5
I'm sure you are right and I'm OK with that pic. But - there are a lot of people thinking like Irish and that's why I think it was perhaps unnecessary to tweet that pic. Here is one example from Adam 24/7 news: " It seems as if he is trying to sabotage himself. Make himself less attractive and more apt to not be thought of as a serious person. No one who loves him cares that he's gay, but the fence sitters look and say "Oh, he's one of those freaky ones." You don't see Ricky Martinez or Clay Aiken or Elton looking less thAN their best." : ??? That's a very slippery slope to slide down. He is an artist and one of the canvases that he uses is himself. If he starts censoring himself to please the masses he is compromising his art. This is exactly the lesson he is trying to teach us. You cannot live your life constantly worrying about pleasing others. Sure there are times that you must adjust your behavior but this is a night out with his friends that he is sharing with us and he is being true to himself. If we applaud him for being himself and then expect him to censor himself as to not offend then WE are the hypocrites. Conformity is not the key to universal acceptance, we must learn to accept others for who they are and not who we want them to be. True acceptance means that even when he does things we don't like we are able to say "I don't like it but it's his life" and not project our judgements on him. We don't have to like everything he does but who are we to say he shouldn't be doing it. Like it or don't like it is as far as our judgement should go. His fans are the last people who should be asking him to change in order to convince some imagined fence sitters. Let the fence sitters and haters worry about themselves if we start asking him to change then how is that supporting him. Adam knows EXACTLY when and where to adjust his behavior and styling. We saw it on PFLAG we saw it when he performed Aftermath on AI we saw it countless times. He is the best censor of himself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2011 9:10:47 GMT -5
Loved Heidi's interview first thing this morning. What a treat. Adam seemed so happy and relaxed, lots of laughing. He looked amazing and Heidi was so friendly and complimentary.
Adam also looked amazing in the bar photos. The campy pose with Jonte was funny. I seem to recall that Adam promised us he would keep on bein' that weird fuckin' fag. And he's doin' it perfectly.
I remember when I first found Adam. It was due to the AMAs. I googled around and found all the pictures of him in crazy costumes, Zodiac Show, etc. It was such a thrill to find someone so rock and roll again after all the years of depressive men in plaid shirts. The stuff Adam wears would have been street wear in the 1970s, to my recollection. I love it and I hope Adam never changes his go-to-hell attitude.
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Post by aspen on Sept 28, 2011 9:13:00 GMT -5
Q3 from pg. 1: I looked for the fan vid "Straight to No. 1", which most of you are probably familiar with : , and got this message (translated from Hebrew): "This video has been removed because its content violated YouTube's terms and restrictions". Does anyone know what this is about? youtu.be/LI7ZBRGjPvkNo, but here it is
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Post by cookie on Sept 28, 2011 9:14:16 GMT -5
I'm sure you are right and I'm OK with that pic. But - there are a lot of people thinking like Irish and that's why I think it was perhaps unnecessary to tweet that pic. Here is one example from Adam 24/7 news: " It seems as if he is trying to sabotage himself. Make himself less attractive and more apt to not be thought of as a serious person. No one who loves him cares that he's gay, but the fence sitters look and say "Oh, he's one of those freaky ones." You don't see Ricky Martinez or Clay Aiken or Elton looking less thAN their best." : ??? That's a very slippery slope to slide down. He is an artist and one of the canvases that he uses is himself. If he starts censoring himself to please the masses he is compromising his art. This is exactly the lesson he is trying to teach us. You cannot live your life constantly worrying about pleasing others. Sure there are times that you must adjust your behavior but this is a night out with his friends that he is sharing with us and he is being true to himself. If we applaud him for being himself and then expect him to censor himself as to not offend then WE are the hypocrites. Conformity is not the key to universal acceptance, we must learn to accept others for who they are and not who we want them to be. True acceptance means that even when he does things we don't like we are able to say "I don't like it but it's his life" and not project our judgements on him. We don't have to like everything he does but who are we to say he shouldn't be doing it. Like it or don't like it is as far as our judgement should go. His fans are the last people who should be asking him to change in order to convince some imagined fence sitters. Let the fence sitters and haters worry about themselves if we start asking him to change then how is that supporting him. Rihannsu- Love this whole post, and want to add to the part I highlighted. He shared a glimpse of a personal night out. We have been desperate in recent weeks to see more of him, and there is a lot of interest from fans in his personal life. If he decides to share, and then everyone chimes in with an opinion about how he is doing his personal life wrong, people should expect to have him share less of his personal life in the future. And I guess I have one more thought- I would say that while this picture shows him living his life as a gay man, I think it also shows him embracing his roots as an underground club kid. I'm surprised that people are surprised that he enjoys all of this.
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Post by cookie on Sept 28, 2011 9:15:30 GMT -5
Without telling people what to think etc and not having a direct line to Adam's thoughts...... I believe that this doing what he wants, when, where and how he wants is Adam keeping it real. After all that is partially why we stan him. Isn't it?? ETA Chunkey and Aspen are much more elequent than me ITA. ETA2 Get me using ETA correctly lol. : Pls don't get me wrong. As I said the pic was OK for me.I love Adam as he is. My point was the pic perhaps gave unnecesseraly fuel to those trolls. I think a picture of him walking to his car feeds the trolls.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2011 9:18:37 GMT -5
Wow! I can't believe it. I just got an e-mail from Pennyroyal Studio telling me I'd won a retired Eye of Horus Pendant in their Peace Pendant contest. I'd ordered a bronze Peace Pendant that's scheduled to arrive tomorrow, but I missed out on the other offerings so I'm very excited(!!!) to receive the Eye of Horus. I never win anything! And definitely never such a special gift. There are still several prizes left in the contest. I didn't read the details before and didn't realize how generous Pennyroyal is being with their rewards. Good thing I'm probably going to be up all night working anyway--so behind on a deadline--because I'm a little too wired to sleep now! Woo-Hoo!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! You will love this one! It's the only one that Adam did his full signature on! Congrats, again!
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