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Post by carrieb on Oct 5, 2011 18:30:38 GMT -5
I know a lot of folks love Adele's voice and find it very emotional - but the strain it is makes me very uncomfortable. Maybe because I also sing? Listening to her makes my throat hurt in sympathy. A small amount is OK, but I can't listen to her for long. However, this is clearly NOT a problem for most listeners since her sales numbers and radio play are atromomical. I can't sing a note, but I can feeeeeeeeel her strain in my throat. I wince every time I hear her sing. It doesn't sound to me like someone conveying deep emotion, it sounds like someone ruining their voice. It makes me want to tell her to, "STOP! Please stop and go drink some tea or take a vocal lesson." So I don't enjoy listening to her. (I'm old enough to remember Bonnie Tyler and Kim Carnes and I never had that reaction to them, so it's not that I can't listen to voices like that. It's that Adele sounds like she's shredding her voice and they did not.) Obviously most people have a different reaction.
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Post by SusieFierce on Oct 5, 2011 18:31:08 GMT -5
I know a lot of folks love Adele's voice and find it very emotional - but the strain it is makes me very uncomfortable. Maybe because I also sing? Listening to her makes my throat hurt in sympathy. A small amount is OK, but I can't listen to her for long. However, this is clearly NOT a problem for most listeners since her sales numbers and radio play are atromomical. You're not alone. The strain hurts me too. I am one of the few people in the world that can not listen to Someone Like You! (Waiting for my SusieFierce slapdown right now! LOL!) *bounds in* okay. Have to say, you're missing out. It's a gorgeous song and to me only becomes more brilliant with the listening. It works phenomenally well on radio. I was discussing it with Draddee (for those who don't know, used to be Sunn on MJ's and PF) and she can be a very tough critic. She was raving about the video. I hadn't watched it yet, but since I had the day off on Monday, I did. I thought it was stunning. The continuous tracking shot is VERY difficult to pull off cinematically and it sustains the drama, vulnerability and tenuousness of her emotion. The black and white Parisian cityscapes are breathtaking and the consistent close-ups of her face do not give the viewer a release. You are brought directly into her pain as if she is confiding directly to you. As draddee described it: It's so fragile, like the whole thing could just shatter right before you. And that vulnerability sustains tension and personally, I don't feel her voice straining. I feel it heavy with emotion, but she nails the key notes when the "story" calls for it. In the same way that Adam nails certain notes that no matter how many times I've heard them they are every bit as effective as the first. NoAngel's example of Bonnie Tyler was an excellent one. Many thought her rasp was straining back in the day, but it's still so powerful because of the raw emotion in the entire song, particularly her delivery.
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Post by wal on Oct 5, 2011 18:33:27 GMT -5
So cute, thanks for posting, and evergreen too for posting this earlier. (I just now have a chance to watch) www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VMAwg1XNZEFrom Youtube comment:from 0:11 --> Katri: But Adam Lambert! He was so cute I mean I didn't even know who he was beforehand... Sauli: I saw that Katri has a photo with him in Facebook! Katri: He was so sweet and as Linda (one of the x-factor judges) said, only real stars are humble and really nice (and then something about finnish Idol -stars who are not humble) Oh, so this was their Tutka right after the XFactor performance where Katri was one of the interviewers. I posted this a couple days ago. You can hear Katri as one of the people asking questions. This video is all kind of fun, Adam is so comfortable talking to anybody asking questions. And I think I hear Katri too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 18:40:43 GMT -5
Off topic: If we have our health, we have everything. RIP Steve Jobs. :(
ETA: I feel like I did when Walt Disney died. Steve was such a visionary!
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Post by kathleenpf on Oct 5, 2011 18:43:01 GMT -5
You're not alone. The strain hurts me too. I am one of the few people in the world that can not listen to Someone Like You! (Waiting for my SusieFierce slapdown right now! LOL!) *bounds in* okay. Have to say, you're missing out. It's a gorgeous song and to me only becomes more brilliant with the listening. It works phenomenally well on radio. I was discussing it with Draddee (for those who don't know, used to be Sunn on MJ's and PF) and she can be a very tough critic. She was raving about the video. I hadn't watched it yet, but since I had the day off on Monday, I did. I thought it was stunning. The continuous tracking shot is VERY difficult to pull off cinematically and it sustains the drama, vulnerability and tenuousness of her emotion. The black and white Parisian cityscapes are breathtaking and the consistent close-ups of her face do not give the viewer a release. You are brought directly into her pain as if she is confiding directly to you. As draddee described it: It's so fragile, like the whole thing could just shatter right before you. And that vulnerability sustains tension and personally, I don't feel her voice straining. I feel it heavy with emotion, but she nails the key notes when the "story" calls for it. In the same way that Adam nails certain notes that no matter how many times I've heard them they are every bit as effective as the first. NoAngel's example of Bonnie Tyler was an excellent one. Many thought her rasp was straining back in the day, but it's still so powerful because of the raw emotion in the entire song, particularly her delivery. I have not watched the video yet but I can tell you that Someone Like You tears my heart out with its raw emotion. I could not get through listening to it without bawling my eyes out, for at least the first dozen times. So many times, in fact, that my daughter finally said "are you crying to that song AGAIN?" The live version is even more powerful, if possible. I don't know anything about singing. I only know what I like and what I feel. Both Adele and Adam make me feel and I adore them both.
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Post by wal on Oct 5, 2011 18:44:30 GMT -5
It's not news for us, they mentioned Adam's tweets about lyrics and "woking as fast as I can." popdirt Pop Dirt Music News Adam Lambert Working Fast As He Can On Second Album bit.ly/r18omn5 minutes ago Pop Dirt Music News @popdirt USA Bringing pop music news to the world popdirt.comAdam Lambert Working Fast As He Can On Second Album
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Post by wal on Oct 5, 2011 18:46:07 GMT -5
Off topic: If we have our health, we have everything. RIP Steve Jobs. :( ETA: I feel like I did when Walt Disney died. Steve was such a visionary! Awww, RIP Steve Jobs.
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Post by geezlouise on Oct 5, 2011 18:53:41 GMT -5
This is a beautifully written song and the phrasing is just incredible, the best I have heard in a long time. The use of the word 'you' throughout the song is amazing: I heard that you Settled down, that you Found a girl, that you're Married now. Etc. Adele should not have had to strain her voice to sing this beautiful song and this young girl proves it. I checked and indeed Adele wrote this song with Dan Wilson. It makes me wish Adam could write with both of them. This to me is a big part of why Adele is making such an impact. I love her voice, but for me it is the songs she writes. The melodies and phrasing are unique and come from an emotional place because she wrote them about her life experiences. I became a fan a few years ago when I heard 'Hometown Glory' (listen to the phrasing in this song if you have not heard it) from her first album '19'. There is nothing out there that sounds like that song or 'Rolling In the Deep' for that matter. Yes her British accent is thick and sounds garbled to some, but I think it is a combo of her unusual phrasing and her accent.
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Post by bobo on Oct 5, 2011 18:56:32 GMT -5
They are speculating if Adam sings about Sauli. They refer to the lyrics of Outlaws of Love and the piece of lyrics Adam gave a couple of days ago: ""all along, I tried to pretend it didn't matter if I was alone..." Maybe the other Finnish girls with better English skills will translate more of it tomorrow.
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Post by rihannsu on Oct 5, 2011 19:02:13 GMT -5
Seeing people were commenting on the Adele voice issues and asking how Adam keeps his in great shape, I thought I share a tale of warning - exhibit A Meatloaf. Meatloaf performed (if you can call it that) as the opening act at the Football grand final here in Oz last weekend (equivalent of Super Bowl). He was terrible - flat, no power at all in his voice. True that the stadium is a big concrete bowl and not a great singing venue, but his back up singer and band seemed to cope ok. You can check it out for yourself here - a couple of radio stations here were so disgusted they won't play him right now. He got paid $500k for this "performance". In contrast Suzi Quatro is also out here right now rockin on in her 60s and still sounding great (husky voice and all). So glad Adam takes care of his instrument! In one of the interviews or videos where Meatloaf was raving about Adam's voice he also talked about hoping that Adam would not fall into the same trap that he did. He talked about how he made that album of his with all that wailing extreme vocals without considering that he would have to sing those songs nightly on tour. When he went out on his first tour he blew his voice out right away. I think Meatloaf is well aware that he screwed himself in that respect.
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