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Post by lilly on Nov 20, 2011 11:09:04 GMT -5
thanks for birthday wishes yesterday ,have just got back from a w/e away,and no way have time to read through all the threads ,
can anyone direct me to this demo you are all talking about,?
thanks in advance ,would like to hear it
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Post by Q3 on Nov 20, 2011 11:15:09 GMT -5
I just took some time and surfed around the web. The response to BTIKM is mixed and as expected.
My experience with the reaction to demos posted in the past is that they are always mixed. Similarly, the response to most pop hits is initially mixed. (Go back and look at some mega-Adam fans response to WWFM vs. FYE -- almost all posted that WWFM was boring, the main comments in favor of WWFM was that radio PDs liked it.)
On BTIKM:
Adam fans seem to split -- about 75% like it, 25% not sure or do not like it.
Adam knockers -- as expected think it is crap. But they post negatively about almost everything Adam does. A few even posted that Adam blew it with QUEEN (oversinging the songs).
The interesting thing is that the majority of non-fans who are impartial to Adam but who like pop music seem to think it could be pretty good when Adam sings it.
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Post by mariep on Nov 20, 2011 11:16:22 GMT -5
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Post by LindaG23 on Nov 20, 2011 11:16:32 GMT -5
BFM, won't outsell Daughtry. Most likely it won't sell much. But I do think the JD fans are in for a rude awakening! Their number projections have been pretty funny. Which is weird because the single sales and album pre-sales, on i-tunes, have been really low. ??? I totally agree about the choreography for the FYE performance on the AMAs. It was awful! Not meant for someone who is singing live. I was wondering about JD's number too and the talk that Adam could open for him... LOL That is too funny to even take seriously  ... OR ... maybe someone asked for the definition of delusional.  |
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Post by Q3 on Nov 20, 2011 11:16:40 GMT -5
thanks for birthday wishes yesterday ,have just got back from a w/e away,and no way have time to read through all the threads , can anyone direct me to this demo you are all talking about,? thanks in advance ,would like to hear it It is on Page 1, 11.19.11 News Thread. |
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Post by koshka on Nov 20, 2011 11:16:54 GMT -5
Perhaps the 2 biggest surprises to me about "Trespassing" are: 1. Claude Kelly and Dr. Luke are responsible for the second Adam Lambert lead single. First, FYE, now BTIKM. (The new single is a song that is much better suited to Adam's voice.) 2. There is no mention of Max Martin or Shellback and "Trespassing". Perhaps Adam never worked with Max and/or Shellback on a track for this album? Odd to have the two people responsible for the single that missed, get the lead single, while the two people who brought Adam his two hits are not represented. Adam said there were a few surprises on the album -- maybe there is a track from Max/Shellback. It could be the Bonnie McPhee/Oliver Goldstein track (Bonnie often works with Max Martin and with Bennie Blanco).I'm thinking that this is what happened, which is fine with me. I suspect Bonnie would be able to spend time w/ Adam, rather then squeezing him into a packed schedule... also from her comments, it sounded like a good combination. |
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Post by carrieb on Nov 20, 2011 11:16:59 GMT -5
BFM, won't outsell Daughtry. Most likely it won't sell much. But I do think the JD fans are in for a rude awakening! Their number projections have been pretty funny. Which is weird because the single sales and album pre-sales, on i-tunes, have been really low. ??? I totally agree about the choreography for the FYE performance on the AMAs. It was awful! Not meant for someone who is singing live. I was wondering about JD's number too and the talk that Adam could open for him... LOL Adam open for JD? I am consistently amazed at the number of people walking around on the streets who suffer from delusions. I really hope JD is nowhere near Adam's show. I generally DO like to go the opening act in part for professional reasons, but I would make an exception if he were the opener. |
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Post by cassie on Nov 20, 2011 11:20:47 GMT -5
I am in a quandary about what I want in regards to the bastard album. Of course, my first choice would be that it never saw the light of day, because that is what Adam wants. But, since it appears Adam will not be able to block it's release tomorrow, I don't want to read Adam getting trashed by the reviewers either. What about something like this:
Beg for Money, a CD of songs recorded by Adam Lambert prior to him gaining world-wide attention on American Idol, did not see the light of day at the time the tracks were laid down. The tracks were not even finalized, the production not completed. Flash forward five years, and the world is excitedly anticipating Lambert's sophomore album with glee. Suddenly the tracks that were undesirable, unmarketable in 2007 are looking and sounding like gold to the businessmen holding the rights to them.
Lambert has tweeted that they are being released without his cooperation and in spite of his protests. They do not demonstrate his artistic vision today, and are not of the high quality that he insists on for his recordings. His attempts to stop the release of the music have resulted in a law suit filed (very publicly) against Lambert (as opposed to the company releasing the music). Lambert's loyal and passionate fans have also been actively campaigning against the release and posting comments and tweets to explain why.
All that being said, Beg for Mercy is an interesting album. It shows one of the avenues Lambert pursued in his long struggle to succeed as an artist. Ultimately, Lambert decided that the fit was not right, and changed directions. Still, the journey is worth listening to from a historical perspective. Also worth listening to from a musical perspective. Lambert, five years ago, already had the pipes, the range and the passion he is known for. This unfinished, fledgling work still sounds better than most rock music being touted and released today.
It is puzzling why Lambert was not "discovered" and promoted years ago. But, he used the time of obscurity to continue to work on his stagecraft, develop his voice, and discover his "fit" into the current music scene. By the time his legitimate first album came out two years ago, he was more than ready for prime time.
Word from industry insiders and some of the biggest names in music production is that Lambert's second album, "Trespassing," due out in the spring of 2012, is beyond incredible. We can't wait to hear just one track (leaking a bit of his planned first single, "Better Than I Know Myself" would help feed us while we wait).
But, Beg For Mercy ain't all that bad, as the historical document, while we wait. If you are looking for something rather raw sounding, with a hard rock edge and strong vocals, and you don't object to funding a recording Lambert doesn't want released, you may be interested in giving BFM a listen.
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Post by lulu2365 on Nov 20, 2011 11:21:48 GMT -5
I have no doubt that Adam will feel the hypocrisy of it. But he's smart, he knows how to get along with industry peeps, he knows he doesnt have to fight every battle. I love this interview that He did after the AMA's. And I do think Adam knows He has to play the game with the industry people to get where He needs to go. |
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Post by Buderschnookie on Nov 20, 2011 11:31:47 GMT -5
BFM conversation is closed -- posting this at top of the thread so it is noticed.
Cassie, I think you should post that review on every damn website you see that has even a mention of BFM.
And if you don't want to take the time to do so please grant the rest of us crossposting rights?
It is an excellent piece.
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