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Post by mszue on Jun 29, 2020 12:50:20 GMT -5
Very interesting roundtable! The fact that Adam was one of the leaders of it was very gratifying. I hope his cred for doing these sorts of things increases over time and he gets more opportunities to be an excellent spokesman for all kinds of social issues. He's great at it. I thought all the stories that the panel members told were very enlightening. Can't possibly respond to all the comments here but they are all great and very thought-provoking. I was interested in toramenor's comments a page or two back about how some early potential fans of Adam, just after Idol, were just not sure what to do with him. His talent was obvious, but lots of people were just uncomfortable with expressing their support. I remember early in the fandom when we would ask each other, "Do you tell other people you are an Adam fan? Do you talk about him to non-fans." Many people said NO. It's been tricky to be an Adam fan. He was never a somewhat neutral, "safe," non-sexual sort of gay man, (kind of like Neil Patrick Harris). Adam was always fearless and unashamed. He was not always acting "stereotypically gay" every single minute. But he was asked about it A LOT after Idol and didn't shy away from the discussions. He made his mistakes and forged ahead. He has gained respect. I think straight men in general have a hard time being openly accepting of gay men. There is this cultural "feeling" that if a straight guy admires or accepts a gay guy, then he must be gay himself. And that is very scary for straight men. Straight guys who like all kinds of singers and bands still have a hard time admitting that they really like a gay male singer. That's why the outpouring of praise for Adam from straight male Queen fans is so incredibly important. It validates the fact that straight guys can admire and accept gay male singers and not feel threatened. Also, Adam has a very engaging personality, a quick, witty sense of humor, a good dose of humility and a sense of gratitude. All these things really humanize him and make him more than just a gay caricature. People like him for his whole self, not just because he is a good singer. (Before anybody reminds me that Freddie was also gay, I know, I know!) Diehard Freddie-only fans don't have a problem with Adam's sexuality as much as his "replacing Freddie." I'm talking about the wonderful acceptance of Adam as a full performer is all its aspects, singing, stage presence, the works. It's a real step forward, IMO. Yes...I totally agree with everything you say! For the heck of it,I was just taking a short stroll down memory lane and appreciating many of your posts in the 'After Hours' forum
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Post by lurleene on Jun 29, 2020 13:22:38 GMT -5
In my down time I have been watching some youtube videos on my tv. I pulled up some of Led Zeppelin and realized that I am more familiar with the name and their songs but not really familiar with them as they were. I looked up Robert Plants age and the age of Queen guys and Mic. It seems they must have been big around the same time. Since Zep, Queen and the Stones were all from the UK and all made it in America, I was wondering how they stacked up with one another in their heydays. Or were they not big at the same time? Even with the Stones, it would have been their later years that I remember. But if they were all going strong in the same time frame, there must have been so much excitement. And Queen did seem very different so I'm really interested in how they fit into the landscape with the others. I have found information on them individually but nothing about them competing at the same time for glory, fame and attention.
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Post by pi on Jun 29, 2020 13:51:05 GMT -5
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Post by deb5anne on Jun 29, 2020 14:10:33 GMT -5
I've always been more of a Zep fan than the the Stones. Do like the Stones though and you can't deny they know how to do it. My brothers had tickets for their show this summer of course it got canceled. Not sure if they rescheduled. Of course they had to postpone last year after Mick's surgery.
Zep toured last year but if I recall it was smaller and nothing around here. They were going to tour this year but got derailed by the virus.
Two of my all time favorite songs are Bohemian Rhapsody and Stairway to Heaven which is 8 minutes lol!
When QAL did WLL in Australia one of the reviews said Adam's voice would be well suited to Zep's catalog because Robert Plante's range is higher than Freddie's and Adam can match it. Pretty interesting and I would love to see Adam do Stairway to Heaven!
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Post by pi on Jun 29, 2020 14:16:42 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Jun 29, 2020 14:19:36 GMT -5
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Post by lurleene on Jun 29, 2020 14:34:41 GMT -5
I've always been more of a Zep fan than the the Stones. Do like the Stones though and you can't deny they know how to do it. My brothers had tickets for their show this summer of course it got canceled. Not sure if they rescheduled. Of course they had to postpone last year after Mick's surgery. Zep toured last year but if I recall it was smaller and nothing around here. They were going to tour this year but got derailed by the virus. Two of my all time favorite songs are Bohemian Rhapsody and Stairway to Heaven which is 8 minutes lol!
When QAL did WLL in Australia one of the reviews said Adam's voice would be well suited to Zep's catalog because Robert Plante's range is higher than Freddie's and Adam can match it. Pretty interesting and I would love to see Adam do Stairway to Heaven! I've been a fan of WLL but because of Adam mostly. But I was watching the Kashmire performance by Zep last night. Gawd! If Adam did that I think I would be forever destroyed, lol. That is sexy and freaky as sh**. www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=Zp3nCW8VkJ8&feature=emb_logo
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Post by pi on Jun 29, 2020 14:42:28 GMT -5
You'll want to skip to the Adam parts from 29:34 - 42:25.
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Post by pi on Jun 29, 2020 14:47:44 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Jun 29, 2020 15:12:07 GMT -5
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