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Post by nica575 on Jul 19, 2020 13:52:45 GMT -5
Not news O Ok...ok...so you’re beautiful Still think my long hair is the ultimate! Waited all those years for it and it was mostly extensions and soon disappeared. My avi is keeping the dream alive....until next time. i was advocating for equal time long hair represantation! Love it!
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Post by deb5anne on Jul 19, 2020 14:02:11 GMT -5
I really love Velvet the whole album. It bears repeating. I went on my walk today and listened to most of it without skipping a song. It is absolutely terrific, which I honestly cannot say for any other album. He really picked the best songs on this one, no fillers. Also, the music video for Velvet is great, I love watching it, it is close to 5mil now: www.youtube.com/watch?v=E53PkThqKDEI wonder what he filmed recently... Could it be a new song? And if so, could he release the song plus a music video at the same time, like he did with all the Velvet songs: New Eyes, Comin in Hot, Superpower, Velvet? We haven't seen Velvet live yet. He did the other three as acoustic, spectalurly I might add. Plus 3 different performances of Roses- Global Citizen, Grammy, and back yard for iheart. I'm thinking maybe Velvet or it could be something new. On the other hand he surprised us with On the Moon on Corden so who knows!!!
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Post by cleopatra on Jul 19, 2020 16:16:36 GMT -5
Do you think that Adam is doing fan club related things by himself? It’s his team idea and execution. He never said don’t post exclusive content on sm. Glamberts are more restrictive than Adam himself Oh, for heaven's sake. I don't care who actually does the posting; that's irrelevant. The point, which you just made yourself, is that Adam's team makes choices of where to post content. If Team!Adam wants everyone to have access to it, it gets posted to one of Adam's social media sites. If it's meant to be a fan club exclusive, it's posted to the fan club site, not to Adam's social media. It's not rocket science. He shouldn't have to specifically say "Don't post the fan club exclusive material to social media so everyone can see it without being a member." That should be inherent in where it's posted.
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Post by sizzling63 on Jul 19, 2020 16:53:12 GMT -5
We can put the age factor aside I believe ,If we just look at Queen and their success with all ages. I can't believe this discussion about membership in the fan club. I joined because I support Adam and for me $10 is a pretty cheap way of showing appreciation and Gelly posting or not posting something is not going to affect my membership. Good grief! It's a trip to Starbucks for me and as to younger fans; that's a drop in the bucket. Many teens think nothing of dropping over $100 at Sephora. I also contribute monthly to the Feel Something Foundation because that is something Adam is very committed to. If you are having trouble getting logged in; call tech support. It's what they are there for. I too joined the renewed fan club the minute he announced it. I figured that's the least we can do to show appreciation for what he has given us and at the same time support what may lie ahead. I see the ridiculously low fee as an invitation for pretty much anybody to be able to join, and I can imagine that in return the fan club numbers could be one indicator for Adam to get an idea how many dedicated fans he actually has. I agree that we should support his FS foundation as much as we can. I can imagine that it's a lot for some between BLM donations and political campaigns, but even a little bit helps.
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Post by nica575 on Jul 19, 2020 16:58:11 GMT -5
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Post by dominica on Jul 19, 2020 17:07:57 GMT -5
I can't believe this discussion about membership in the fan club. I joined because I support Adam and for me $10 is a pretty cheap way of showing appreciation and Gelly posting or not posting something is not going to affect my membership. Good grief! It's a trip to Starbucks for me and as to younger fans; that's a drop in the bucket. Many teens think nothing of dropping over $100 at Sephora. I also contribute monthly to the Feel Something Foundation because that is something Adam is very committed to. If you are having trouble getting logged in; call tech support. It's what they are there for. I too joined the renewed fan club the minute he announced it. I figured that's the least we can do to show appreciation for what he has given us and at the same time support what may lie ahead. I see the ridiculously low fee as an invitation for pretty much anybody to be able to join, and I can imagine that in return the fan club numbers could be one indicator for Adam to get an idea how many dedicated fans he actually has. I agree that we should support his FS foundation as much as we can. I can imagine that it's a lot for some between BLM donations and political campaigns, but even a little bit helps. Can you see how many members fan club has??
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Post by pi on Jul 19, 2020 17:09:33 GMT -5
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Post by skaschep on Jul 19, 2020 17:11:02 GMT -5
Since I was tagged into the discussion today I though I might chip in for once.
First: I think most fans that share information on Twitter already agree that the exclusive content shouldn't be posted on Twitter completely. From what I saw Gelly was the only one who posted the full video of the new thing Adam recorded. That video was shared one time, but for the rest I didn't see that full video posted. There are other ways to tell fans there is exclusive info available on the Fan Club member page than posting the whole thing freely on Twitter. I can't say anything about Instagram as I don't search there.
Second: Posting it as Exclusive Fan content means that Adam wants it to be for the fans that are members on the site. And even though Adam doesn't post it himself, his team doesn't do anything without his approval. So if Shosh hints that she isn't happy with the reposting I translate that to that Adam isn't happy with the reposting. Adam hires them to do what is best for him.
Third: I believe the fan exclusives have more purposes than only building his fan base. It's not like he suddenly gets more fans because of these exclusives. Those that signed up on his site were mostly fans already, but just weren't members yet. The tally since 14 June is now about 1,500 new memberships on the site. The total amount of members is 43,683 right now, but a lot of those haven't logged in in years.
I believe that one of the purposes is also to see where his fans are and how they respond to these things. Data like that is very important. Adam's team gets data already from several sources: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Spotify, other streaming services. They all provide data about when people engaged, how many and where people are from. Data we don't see with our private accounts, but will be provided to him because he has a verified / business account on these platforms. All these platforms however already mess with that data a bit. They put them through their own filter and will give the data they think the artists need. His own website however is something that Adam can control completely himself. His team can probably see detailed information from every person who visits the site. From where they are from to how many pages they visited and how long they stayed on that page.
It is essential for Adam's team to know this data as it will show them what fans like, where his fans are and it will be input for other actions to come and probably also input to where he will spend money for promo and such. Adam isn't with a major label anymore with unlimited resources and he and his team will need to chose where to put the effort. They already did that in the promo for Velvet by concentrating on the US, the UK, Germany and Australia.
So with all this in mind it is very important that fans view the content he shares on his site and not on fan reposts. Adam doesn't get any data from those reposts. Which means that every time a fan watched Gelly's upload instead of Adam's own video they don't give him data that they are interested in his content. Which could potentially lead to him not visiting the region they are from (worst case scenario).
Gelly had 10,000 views on her message about the fan club revamp while Adam had 1,700 views. She also has over 6,000 views on the latest video Adam shared about the new video he recorded while Adam has 1,700 views. I hope people understand now why this is a problem.
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Post by pi on Jul 19, 2020 17:11:06 GMT -5
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Post by momtomany on Jul 19, 2020 17:17:46 GMT -5
I've renewed my membership - it was pretty easy. I'm sorry others are having problems - wish I could be of help.
As for what is posted and where - be it 'fan site privileged information' or not . . . Adam is a public figure. His fansite is bait. I feel that EVERYTHING Adam posts is fan material. That includes photos, instagrams, texts, and certainly, 'exculsive' fan site information.
I rarely speak to anything Adam might say or feel - because, even after 10+ years, I don't really know the man - but I'm sure, with his intelligence and forethought, he has learned how to keep PRIVATE what he wants to keep private. He knows how to keep EXCLUSIVE the things he wants to be truly exclusive. If something 'leaks' it's meant to leak; or, in the scheme of things, it doesn't really matter.
Those who have searched the internet for Adam news have done this fansite a favor. We look for every tidbit of information about Adam. Gelly and others have been a lifeline during periods of just about nothing. Adam can take care of himself - we all know that. If there's something he doesn't want 'out there' I promise you, even today, we will know nothing about it.
Has being a fan disposed us to wanting everything, but only in the 'right' way?
We have so much to celebrate and support - including Adam's fansite and the FS Foundation. We can hope to win a lunch; or bid on a concert jacket; or even drive by his home in Hollywood . . . it's no secret. He's still somewhat an open book, and we are lucky to find a chapter that speaks to us.
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