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Post by svca on Dec 6, 2020 20:17:21 GMT -5
If indeed, the vaccine proves to be as effective as thought...and especially, if there is a way to test for it's working in the individual via antibodies or something...then with a modicum of safety measures, as long as we have been vaccinated we should be reasonably safe....it is just those anti vaxxers that attend that need to worry...and they don't...so, there you go. One upside, they are willingly taking them selves out of the line up freeing it for more of the rest of us...that is how I try to look at it. It is not easy at times, but I am really trying to look at the bright side of everything these days as there is sooooo much anger and hate being thrown about everywhere. It is hard not to be touched by it..... I am hoping that they implement a vaccine requirement for attending concerts. Since concerts are in such close quarters, that would be an excellent idea.
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Post by bamafan on Dec 6, 2020 20:36:28 GMT -5
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Post by stampsgal on Dec 6, 2020 20:53:44 GMT -5
One of my fav songs ever for Adam is Runnin'. I was checking out the twitter feed below and came across a post about a youtube that had over 52 million views of Runnin' sped up many times. It got me thinking about if Adam would get still be getting royalties from the many many youtubes with Runnin' --as he was included as a writer. It is one of the albums that Adam had to give up his right to to get out of his 19 deal??? But I still wonder if as a writer he would get royalties. anyway... That led me to a few articles one of which was an interview with one of the writers of Runnin'---Cait Gravitt. It is a long interview with new information for me --so will provide the link and then cut and paste the Adam parts. Teaser---She was also involved with Adam's song Underneath, which at the time ---she and another writer thought it would be a great awards show song and number 1 hit. And to their disappointment yet it was never released as a single. It still remains as one of her fav songs she has written. Also a bit of info on the competition for the song Honestly, which Kelly recorded. www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/catt-gravittSongfacts: We talked about how, a lot of times, there's a lot of country stuff going on in Nashville. But a lot of the artists that get these Nashville songs are not who you would associate with country music. Adam Lambert, for instance. Kelly Clarkson. These are very mainstream artists, and you've had the chance to work with them. How does your approach change when it's not a traditional country artist that you're writing for? ... (other stuff) back to Adam parts I was managed by Chris Oglesby and LeAnn Phelan at 19 Entertainment, and 19 was owned by Simon Fuller who owns American Idol. They had a management company here for a while, and LeAnn said, "What's your goal?" I said, "Well, I really want a #1 in Christian, a #1 in country, a #1 in pop, and then whatever fun falls in between that." And since working with her, I've got two out of the three. With pop music, I sort of became obsessed around 2008, and I still do it. For a while, I was going to LA eight times a year for a couple of years. Writing pop music was freeing for me because sometimes in country people say, "Oh you can't say that." It's getting so much better now, but I loved the freedom of just emoting and saying whatever I wanted. And then my buddy Robert Marvin and I got on a run, and it started with the Kelly Clarkson song ["Honestly"]. I wrote that for a friend that was in such deep pain. That was from an observer's standpoint, that I just needed to get that lyric out of me, not thinking that anyone would be interested in it. Because you really have to sort of follow it, going, "What is she even talking about?" But then, that song, Kelly Clarkson and Adam were sort of fighting over it. Kelly was just like, "Well I'm recording it." And I didn't even know she would resonate with that lyric, because the opening lyric is, "Could you love somebody like me?" It's written more for someone that feels, at the time, odd man out. I remember meeting her for the first time. I said, "I can't even believe you resonated with that lyric." And she says, "I am that lyric." Which is just so awesome. I fell in love with her even more, because I thought, "She is that lyric." I love her. And then Adam asked to write with us because of that. So then I went out to LA and not only did we get to write with him, we ended up co-producing his vocal. That voice is a force, and it was just a joy to work with him. I hope that he continues to be heard because he's one of the most phenomenal male voices. He really is sort of Freddy Mercury reincarnated. Songfacts: The fact that Queen fans haven't come out with pitchforks tells you something about him. Catt: You know, a lot of Queen fans have kids now, and they still want to hear somebody sing like Freddie.
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Post by stampsgal on Dec 6, 2020 21:00:43 GMT -5
next part about Runnin' and how Adam felt about the tv documentary VH1 Behind the Scenes (which we were all sad about for Adam).
Songfacts: The Adam Lambert song "Underneath" is another big, vulnerable song you wrote, just revealing everything. Can you talk about that song and putting it together?
Catt: I wish that could've been a single. We thought that could've been an award show performance. That was me, Tom Shapiro, Josh Crosby, and Robert Marvin. It is to this date one of my favorite songs. Tom Shapiro is such a mentor of mine - I think he's had 26 #1s. I can't remember how many. But he's just a true classic songwriter that I feel blessed to have written with. He looked at me and he said, "That'll go down as one of my favorite songs," which is such an honor to me. It didn't chart, it wasn't a single, but I will never forget writing it that day. We all looked at each other like it was sort of a peek inside all of us. In the writing room, we were all talking about our own personal vulnerabilities.
When we recorded Adam's vocal on that, he stepped out in the middle of the song because he had to take a phone call. It was with VH1 - he was doing a Behind The Scenes with them. He came back in, and he was very upset. He saw the footage and for 45 minutes they wanted to talk about him being gay, and for five minutes they wanted to talk about his music.
We all had this beautiful discussion about all of us, and him really sharing his vulnerabilities, and then he got back up to the microphone and sang that song. I truly think the world of that guy. He really was baring his soul that day, and when I listen to him sing that song, it just kills me. Kills me.
Songfacts: What was it like, working with him on the song "Runnin'"?
Catt: Well, that was really fun. I think everybody's a songwriter, you just have to be half nuts to pursue it. Robert and I were flying out to LA, so we were on the plane together. And he said, "I'm going to play you 10 or 11 tracks." Some were empty with no vocal, and then some had vocal melodies that were already on them. He said, "I want you to just pick something that you're drawn to." So I listened to all of them, and I said, "This is the one." I wasn't really drawn to anything else.
After we did "Underneath," Adam's management told us, "If Adam didn't enjoy the day, he'll just say, 'thank you guys.' If he did enjoy the day, he'll probably ask you to write." And he asked us to write. So Robert said, "I have this one track, and Catt and I really love it and want to see what you think." Well, he loved it, so we started writing on it. I could tell that he had some deep things that he wanted to say in his heart, so we let him run on a lot.
After we finished it, Robert said, "Catt, you know where you get your hair done?" And I said, "Yeah." It's an Aveda Salon. He said, "Well, the guy that runs the front desk at Aveda, he's the one that did the track. I didn't want to tell you until afterwards."
So here is this guy who's working his butt off to be in the music business, but he's answering phones and making appointments at Aveda. He did the track. He did the vocal melody. We tweaked some of it, but for the most part, it was the only song that I was drawn to, and it was a guy that worked at Aveda Hair Salon.
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Post by svca on Dec 6, 2020 21:52:54 GMT -5
Wow, super interesting interview, Stampsgal. I love both Underneath and Running. I always find it really interesting to read about the background of a song, how it came together...who wrote it, and why a particular melody or particular lyrics strike a performer, like Kelly or Adam.
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Post by bamafan on Dec 6, 2020 21:57:34 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Dec 6, 2020 22:18:27 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Dec 6, 2020 23:21:22 GMT -5
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Post by stampsgal on Dec 6, 2020 23:28:51 GMT -5
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Post by LindaG23 on Dec 7, 2020 1:15:41 GMT -5
If indeed, the vaccine proves to be as effective as thought...and especially, if there is a way to test for it's working in the individual via antibodies or something...then with a modicum of safety measures, as long as we have been vaccinated we should be reasonably safe....it is just those anti vaxxers that attend that need to worry...and they don't...so, there you go. One upside, they are willingly taking them selves out of the line up freeing it for more of the rest of us...that is how I try to look at it. It is not easy at times, but I am really trying to look at the bright side of everything these days as there is sooooo much anger and hate being thrown about everywhere. It is hard not to be touched by it..... I am hoping that they implement a vaccine requirement for attending concerts. I think that is very unlikely, especially in the US. Maybe the EU, but even there it would be problematic. I'm with mszue. If I am vaccinated then I am unlikely to contract the coronavirus or give it to someone else. That is my ethical obligation and I would happily attend a concert. I really can't say what QAL would do. It's a little different since they would be bringing people together. Even though they cannot vouch for everyone, especially anti-vaxxers, they might feel responsible if someone got sick. I guess we will see how it goes.
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