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Post by seashell on Feb 28, 2011 14:21:56 GMT -5
Well.. you know what.. re: LG's video.. if it has a positive impact on youth to believe in and be themselves... then all the power to her.. I may not get her vision but, then I am not the artist either.. LOL so the video had a message I didn't get.. ok.. but, sometimes I wonder if the kids some of this stuff is aimed at get it either.. or are they just impressed with the surface stuff.. ???  I liked to try and decipher Adams message  |
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Post by mszue on Feb 28, 2011 14:26:38 GMT -5
I totally agree with this, and I don't think you're being "appalling" at all. I respectfully disagree. I think it all boils down to "sex sells" and if playing with her own "cooch" in front of the whole world is what it takes to sell, GAGA will do it. I think she's crass. OK...I just 'told' someone I was not going to jump in here for numerous reasons...and I meant it...but....I have to respond to the 'selling sex' thing because we cannot have the 'double standard' thing all ways round. Men have been touching themselves since MJ. Adam touches himself all the time in concert...he felates his mike, he jerks off his bassist's guitar and uses his mike as a penis substitute to jerk off. How on earth is that OK and Gaga touching herself wrong!! I seriously do not see the difference here..... what is good for the goose is good for the gander....we need to put our collective money where our mouth is...so to speak! Yikes....imagery.... ??? ??? :  |
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Post by gelly14 on Feb 28, 2011 14:27:38 GMT -5
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Post by readon on Feb 28, 2011 14:31:20 GMT -5
I have to admit my opinion of the video is biased my Gaga annoucing at the beginning of the video that "This is the manifesto of Mother Monster". Once you voice words like that, you've got to bring it. Child birthing is a beautiful thing, but I just don't want to see thing coming out of or being pulled out of Gaga vagigi. What was with the machine gun? She has an awesome group of dancers. I'm just going to go ahead and potentially offend everyone (as in really turn you off - sorry. Well, I don't think this would offend Skylar - are you lurking? Skylar made the vid you mentioned, Readon) - but I like the parts in which she's giving birth to her re-created self and the gun because, in general, and I realize this is going to sound appalling to some of you, I like how Gaga portrays? uses? touches? her cooch (!). (I don't like any of my terminology options here.) I noticed in "Bad Romance," too, that Gaga poses and dances in ways that aren't necessarily traditionally pretty "sexy" but more "real" sex-y, more like how women move, position, etc. when having sex (or masturbating - I feel like I'm really being appalling now, it's easier to post about Adam stage-masturbating . . .) Why does Gaga (or Adam) have to do that? They don't, but so much music and pop-music is driven by sexuality, and so much imagery associated with female sexuality is extremely focused very solely on the idea of the straight male gaze (and so much of male sexuality is focused on straight males). But Gaga isn't afraid to just move/pose/squat/straddle/hunch/hang out - whatever! I mean, I do think she's trying to look sexy and beautiful, but according to her. Some have said Adam's moves are "educational" - I think Gaga's are, too. I don't think she creates and performs solely for the male gaze, I'm trying to say - she's trying to portray/feature/go from her own pleasure. Which, of course, is still beautiful and appreciated by some men, some women, etc. but not all.I'll stop now. I agree about the dancers. I am not at all appalled by your viewpoint. It's a different perspective. Definitely, room for thought. I have to review with that thought in mine. Thanks for posting. |
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Post by mariep on Feb 28, 2011 14:36:34 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. I think it all boils down to "sex sells" and if playing with her own "cooch" in front of the whole world is what it takes to sell, GAGA will do it. I think she's crass. OK...I just 'told' someone I was not going to jump in here for numerous reasons...and I meant it...but....I have to respond to the 'selling sex' thing because we cannot have the 'double standard' thing all ways round. Men have been touching themselves since MJ. Adam touches himself all the time in concert...he felates his mike, he jerks off his bassist's guitar and uses his mike as a penis substitute to jerk off. How on earth is that OK and Gaga touching herself wrong!! I seriously do not see the difference here..... what is good for the goose is good for the gander....we need to put our collective money where our mouth is...so to speak! Yikes....imagery.... ??? ??? : Well said mszue! And with that said, shall we... Adam Purple Haze & WLL Club Nokia, LA! |
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Post by Sunflower on Feb 28, 2011 14:40:31 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. I think it all boils down to "sex sells" and if playing with her own "cooch" in front of the whole world is what it takes to sell, GAGA will do it. I think she's crass. OK...I just 'told' someone I was not going to jump in here for numerous reasons...and I meant it...but....I have to respond to the 'selling sex' thing because we cannot have the 'double standard' thing all ways round. Men have been touching themselves since MJ. Adam touches himself all the time in concert...he felates his mike, he jerks off his bassist's guitar and uses his mike as a penis substitute to jerk off. How on earth is that OK and Gaga touching herself wrong!! I seriously do not see the difference here..... what is good for the goose is good for the gander....we need to put our collective money where our mouth is...so to speak! Yikes....imagery.... ??? ??? : ITA, Mszue. I am glad you replied first, because I am totally baffled. We are on a fanboard for a man who is probably the most sexual male maintstream artist out there today. Nobody has to like the video, but to say that Gaga is just selling sex at the same time we flail about anything sexual Adam does just does not compute. Btw, I think the whole video is tongue-in-cheek. I think it is hilarious. |
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Post by mariep on Feb 28, 2011 14:41:50 GMT -5
adamlambert Adam LambertWow new Gaga video is wild and weird! I love the super 60's psychedelic intro. Like Barbarella meets Alien.
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Post by lethallyfloral on Feb 28, 2011 14:42:54 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. I think it all boils down to "sex sells" and if playing with her own "cooch" in front of the whole world is what it takes to sell, GAGA will do it. I think she's crass. OK...I just 'told' someone I was not going to jump in here for numerous reasons...and I meant it...but....I have to respond to the 'selling sex' thing because we cannot have the 'double standard' thing all ways round. Men have been touching themselves since MJ. Adam touches himself all the time in concert...he felates his mike, he jerks off his bassist's guitar and uses his mike as a penis substitute to jerk off. How on earth is that OK and Gaga touching herself wrong!! I seriously do not see the difference here..... what is good for the goose is good for the gander....we need to put our collective money where our mouth is...so to speak! Yikes....imagery.... ??? ??? : And women have been touching themselves since Madonna too. Gaga isn't revolutionizing anything by doing this. That said. She can touch herself. Adam can touch himself. But personally, unless someone is spending naked times with me, I don't find it intriguing or sexy. Yep, you heard me, not even Adam. I'm not offended by it or anything but I think I'm on that line where if it stimulates something inside of you, you can find it sexy/offensive but if you don't find it edgy...then it just becomes laughable. |
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Post by scotia on Feb 28, 2011 14:43:10 GMT -5
Adam tweet about the video:
adamlambert
1. Wow new Gaga video is wild and weird! I love the super 60's psychedelic intro. Like Barbarella meets Alien. 2 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
Sorry, everyone was typing/posting at the same time!
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Post by queenrosered on Feb 28, 2011 14:44:34 GMT -5
WOW, we Adam fans are getting really good twitter ninjas and private detectives, and we have agents around the world!! Watch out! Got THAT RIGHT! Look out, CIA and FBI...Glamberts are better at this clandestine shizz than you ever thought of being. |
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