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Post by pi on Jul 10, 2024 20:47:13 GMT -5
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Post by phronni7 on Jul 11, 2024 1:40:44 GMT -5
I typically only quickly glance/scroll over pics and vids that Oliver is in as it is pretty much unavoidable when coming here, but I did click on the latest video that has been discussed. I do understand that "socializing" in gay circles tends to be a bit different and I am aware that we as bystanders never get the whole context of things, but I have had a pretty strong feeling about Oliver for a while now and I have tried to only hint at it and express it discreetly out of respect for Adam. I think that Oliver is riding Adam's coattails, though he may not even be fully aware of it. Not sure if he has any regular "commitments" other than "Venom" but he is clearly enjoying the privilege of partying and dressing up as he pleases while feeding off the energy on social media as well. Probably hard to not get carried away when Adam himself is celebrating a new chapter feeling young, in love, and getting his sexy back. I admit that it is weird for me to make assumptions on a situation that I am not involved with and only get tiny glimpses from, but I do see an imbalance here. I think their party marathon of the past few days, which looks pretty boring, uninspiring, and exhausting to me, may be part of Adam making connections and promoting himself and his new music while Oliver is happily along for the ride. Though I would not argue that Adam likes a good party himself, I do get the feeling that at times he is a bit out of place. It looks to me that his circle of friends has changed quite a bit. Glad he has no singing gigs lined up as of now, in case he catches Strep lol. You express so clearly my opinion about Oliver, an opinion that has grown over time. I don’t typically spend a great deal of time scrutinizing the parties and posing. However, there are some that, for me, I might spend a bit more time on (usually attempting to even find Adam in a few seconds video clip…my eyes 👀🧐😂). A greater concern that I have, however, involves an event that I sometimes observe on the forum. Sizzling63, I want to emphasize that what I have noted isn’t in response to what your particular message says. I’m expressing this concern here because I notice that people tend to read things that are linked to longer discussions. At times, when a topic is brought up that might be a bit tricky to navigate—like the current discussion regarding the kiss—some people will discourage whatever they do not deem appropriate or as going too far. Certain phrases (paraphrasing here) such as “I am certainly not qualified to opine”, “People are getting restless (this as a reflection of if something more important was available, people wouldn’t need/want to discuss said topic)”, “This comment is judgmental”, “We don’t have the whole picture”, and so forth, can inhibit further discussion on a topic. This is, after all, a celebrity forum, and wide-ranging thoughts, feelings, and opinions are some of the things to expect in a forum. And if things get too heated or out of hand, such phrases can be useful as a type of course correction. I don’t comment often, but I have been on here for years. Other than the odd forum troll, and those few mostly appeared during QAL’s early collaborations, I don’t think I have ever seen any verbal slinging matches or anyone who claims to have the full picture of Adam’s life or anyone who seems to wish him anything but the best. However, if we feel that our comment might be misconstrued, sometimes we might feel the need to over-qualify many comments with statements such as “this is just my opinion, of course, and not everyone will agree” or “Adam will do what he wants”. I have written these kinds of statements so many times where they were likely self-evident, and a type of self-censorship has been the result. I’ll find a cave to hide in now, which I have just realized will likely be unnecessary. I have just looked at the time and realized there are probably comments on the next date, so it’s possible that not a single person will read this. Talk about self-censorship! 🤓😁. |
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Post by SophieB on Jul 11, 2024 4:34:28 GMT -5
phronni7 Well said. Couldn’t agree more. I have deliberately stopped myself in recent times, from falling into apologetic mode for voicing my opinions. 
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Post by sizzling63 on Jul 11, 2024 16:37:29 GMT -5
phronni7 , good point how some of us feel like they have to hold back and censor themselves. I am certainly careful about not being too judgmental when not in someone's shoes or relationship, however when party footage of Adam's partner and friends with or without Adam are repeatedly in my face without seeking it out, I think I have a right to say something about it, at least here on this site. Opinions are just that, and to follow Adam's model of the need to be "unfiltered", I think it goes both ways. If Adam or other fans come here and read my comment, I own it. Welcome to the party! What's going on? For me, there is more to an artist that you have been following for over a decade than vocal talent and professional aspirations, and I wish that I was less invested at this point. However, a partner who eagerly presents himself as in Adam's life is part of the appeal (or not). Oliver is the first one that I have a strong opinion about. I don't think that he represents Adam well. It's more than the french kiss with other guys at a party. If they as a couple do feed off each other equally when it comes to their private lives, then Adam is definitely the more discreet one. He certainly has more to loose than Oliver. I too have been wondering about the quietness coming from Brian and Roger and the QAL collaboration and it could be a lot of things. I am also wondering if what appears as "distance" has something to do with Adam pulling out of The Wild. "Creative differences" is a pretty broad term, I think. SophieB , I can only speak for myself but there's no need to fall into "apologetic mode" for me 
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Post by rihannsu on Jul 11, 2024 17:25:50 GMT -5
I must have been blind or looking at the wrong person because I didn't see any french kissing or tongue. LOL
In that see of humanity I had a very hard time singling out anyone.
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Post by lurleene on Jul 11, 2024 18:41:49 GMT -5
phronni7 , good point how some of us feel like they have to hold back and censor themselves. I am certainly careful about not being too judgmental when not in someone's shoes or relationship, however when party footage of Adam's partner and friends with or without Adam are repeatedly in my face without seeking it out, I think I have a right to say something about it, at least here on this site. Opinions are just that, and to follow Adam's model of the need to be "unfiltered", I think it goes both ways. If Adam or other fans come here and read my comment, I own it. Welcome to the party! What's going on? For me, there is more to an artist that you have been following for over a decade than vocal talent and professional aspirations, and I wish that I was less invested at this point. However, a partner who eagerly presents himself as in Adam's life is part of the appeal. Oliver is the first one that I have a strong opinion about. I don't think that he represents Adam well. It's more than the french kiss with other guys at a party. If they as a couple do feed off each other equally when it comes to their private lives, then Adam is definitely the more discreet one. He certainly has more to loose than Oliver.
I too have been wondering about the quietness coming from Brian and Roger and the QAL collaboration and it could be a lot of things. I am also wondering if what appears as "distance" has something to do with Adam pulling out of The Wild. "Creative differences" is a pretty broad term, I think.
SophieB , I can only speak for myself but there's no need to fall into "apologetic mode" for me My thoughts as well sad to say. I don't know but I have been getting some strange vibes from the whole attitude of the EP, before and after the songs dropped. And with the this is our world and not yours attitude by those surrounding Adam, is off-putting since Adam has had a bigger world for many years. That along with talent and his fans is why he is so successful. And most of the time, unless a celebrity is dating someone equally famous and successful, you don't hear much about their friends/relationships/parties at every turn. Probably not a bad thing cause it gets pretty boring but that is why I scroll a lot, lol. It just feels that a lot of good will is being thrown away and replaced for something else and I hope to be wrong. And I have been wondering about the same thing regarding the Wild and if there were bigger issues. And the way Adam went out of his way to say he and his friends did not listen to Classic Rock (even if true) was a pretty strange thing to say when you have been fronting such a band for 10 years. I guess it will be better when we get more news about Adam and less about people most of us don't know, want to know or care about. HA. |
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