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Post by irish1139 on May 7, 2012 10:58:31 GMT -5
I'm back. 53 pages. I can't believe it. It will take me all day to read all this. Underneath...... under my skin .......
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Post by nica575 on May 7, 2012 10:59:06 GMT -5
Folks, apparently last night's link is no linger working.
Can someone please PM or DM any new links that currently work?
thank you!
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Post by FanOfTheMan on May 7, 2012 10:59:26 GMT -5
If Trespassing doesn't win the Grammy for Album of the Year, I am personally going to storm Grammy headquarters and demand a recount! Who's with me? I'm with you!
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Post by anjalee on May 7, 2012 11:00:06 GMT -5
I LIKE what you say about trying to show that it doesnt matter to us. But I do think if you arent part of an attacked minority you cant really understand what they go through. So why not give them some space to be a bit pained and not see our good intentions every time. We who dont have to deal with the daily BS they deal with are so privileged. These wounds go deep. That said, im not saying we shouldnt explain our intentions - just that our hurt at being misunderstood is nothing compared to theirs. I have to agree with you on most of your points, but every attacked minority need to remember not to anatgonize people who may be a little ignorant but want to help and want to understand. Never allow the pain to override things - it's easy but it is the way to nowhere. I know something about it. I learned the hard way Then right there you are awesome and a leader in my view right now Im listening to cuckoo and its soooo happy and joyous i feel five years old.
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Post by mszue on May 7, 2012 11:00:21 GMT -5
Quote: "But I do think if you arent part of an attacked minority you cant really understand what they go through."
If this is true....then what is the use of talking or even trying..
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Post by melliemom on May 7, 2012 11:00:31 GMT -5
i love Runnin those words! the images Very leather jacket-y and yet a man with a heart and soul... I've been standing here my whole life Everything Ive seen twice Its spinning back around now? What does that mean? IMHO,I think it means his addiction to those who are unworthy of his love.He runs away and then back again.. To all those of us who have been in an addictive ,unhealthy relationship.. It really sucks
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Post by anjalee on May 7, 2012 11:01:30 GMT -5
DOUBLE CHECKING HEREEEEEE Ordered from AO, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Walmart, etc, etc, etc, now the UK OK DId I miss any others that have an extra track not on the US version?????????????? I don't want to miss a song.. frankly i want to ninja raid and get all the songs that didnt make it.
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Post by adamfanem on May 7, 2012 11:02:25 GMT -5
I'm posting this here because I know a couple of the commenters go here. To those leaving comments on The Village Voice article saying "Why does it matter if he's gay?" Firstly, do you even know what The Village Voice is? Secondly, that 5-page article off the back of the release of his album is major promo in NYC. Please stop telling publications with large gay readerships that it doesn't matter if Adam is gay. It DOES matter to those of us in the gay community. A huge amount as it happens. To have an out mainstream artist like him is incredibly important and to have a publication like the Village Voice on side is a major coup. Those comments you people leave places are insulting beyond belief to both us and to Adam. I imagine this will be the last comment I leave before I get banned for posting this but hopefully some of you will think before you post in future. I realize this does not apply to everyone here by all means by the way but there are people here are repeat offenders on this front. I am GLAD you posted. It is good to educate when many are trying to help but not going about it in the best way. So yes, WELCOME and appreciate your open and honest feedback. Please stay around and post again when you feel like it or can share more with us Atopers!
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Post by anjalee on May 7, 2012 11:02:58 GMT -5
Wal do NOT show me hot pictures of Adam while Im listening to his album. Its too much and I want to leap through the screen and plant a big one on his lips.
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Post by JazzRocks on May 7, 2012 11:05:32 GMT -5
On a publication with large gay readership is actually DOES matter because it is RELEVANT to the gay community. I do not understand why you find that so hard to understand. It is not that this is so hard to understand, it is the mixed messages we get regarding what is wanted, in this respect. I lived in an area close to the largest first nations reserve in North America. There was...and still is...a massive amount of passive racism towards this community and it impacts their lives at every point. To build community with their youth, and bridges to the non-aboriginal community, the First Nations [predominantly Blackfoot] used to hold open public-invited pow-wow's. They invited us all to dance with them. In a private conversation with a friend of that group, I was informed that in fact, many of the native dancers ridiculed our awkward participation and really only took part in them for the laughs later. Needless to say, I never participated in another pow-wow! I see this criticism as an indicator of some of that same sentiment...just different details. When we try so hard to do what is the best for Adam and his friends...and then get criticized [dare I suspect ridiculed] for it, we are left hurt and unsure what we should do at all. Should we just 'mind our own business' and never comment if we suspect the readership may be predominantly gay? Should we stop complaining when journalists keep on defining Adam as 'the gay' singer? I don't think the commentators are saying 'it doesn't matter' so much as 'it shouldn't matter' and the only way we know to show this is to not let 'it matter' to us. To focus on the music. ..which this particular writer completely dissed as froth. Trust me....any other writer of any other blog or paper would have been drowned in defensive commentary for that uninformed music commentary. seriously....
I think this is a great discussion to have, and here is a great place to have it. I think many of us feel like we are 'damned if we do and damned if we don't'. As Adam said: Whataya want from me? What a wonderful post mszue! It expresses perfectly what many of us struggle with when confronting the issue. The comment I enlarged is right on target. It's happened with my own local music critic.
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