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Post by anjalee on May 7, 2012 11:11:45 GMT -5
Quote: "But I do think if you arent part of an attacked minority you cant really understand what they go through." If this is true....then what is the use of talking or even trying.. . A good question... What comes up for me is there's still a possibility for amazing love, connection and compassion and support even when we cant never really know what others have gone through. And when people talk about and express their experience through art I think it inspires so much in us and changes us. Adam's album changes me and changes reality. and my god, it makes him lovable to me. that right there makes it worth disclosing your experience.
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Post by anjalee on May 7, 2012 11:12:52 GMT -5
AHHAHAH gelly there are no need for words. His face is a language of grrrreat subtlety
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Post by lilly on May 7, 2012 11:13:29 GMT -5
two days away from the net ,i bring up ATOP , wut!!!! 100+ PLUS PAGES IN 2 DAYS !!,and i have 1 hour of peace
if there is still a working link ,i would be VERY, grateful to recieve this thanks in advance
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Post by melliemom on May 7, 2012 11:13:41 GMT -5
This album is a physical experience, it takes over your body. The songs pull you in and I actually feel the song, as if the high really is Kickin In, the Chokehold is pulling me back, I am Runnin and my heart is beating faster, and then I am floating on a cathartic state of Nirvana. Every emotion is there: defiance, empowerment, pride, seduction, release, joy, arousal, vulnerability, rawness, numbness, surrender, frustration, angst, nirvana....what have I forgotten? I so agree.. it is visceral.. I thought I was going to have a heart attack from runnin. I was out of breath,and had to lie down..Each song makes you go through the experience. It is an album like no other.
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Post by fightthesleep on May 7, 2012 11:13:54 GMT -5
I have to agree with you on most of your points, but every attacked minority need to remember not to anatgonize people who may be a little ignorant but want to help and want to understand. Never allow the pain to override things - it's easy but it is the way to nowhere. I know something about it. I learned the hard way I understand that you are trying to help and want to help. The thing you have to understand is that sometimes that help can come over as extremely patronizing to an attacked minority even though you don't mean it to be. In terms of Adam being spoken about as a gay artist, it is very different when it is a mainstream publication such as, say, EW talking about his sexuality over his music and making a big deal out of it. Then by all means point out that it should be all about the music instead of banging on about his sexuality all the time. However when it is a gay publication, or one such as the VV with such a large gay readership, then the connotation of him being spoken about as a gay artist changes entirely. Telling a writer and the readership of any gay or gay friendly publication that him being gay does not matter is tactless and hurtful because in this circumstance and to the gay community it does matter that he is gay. As someone said above, showing support for and being an ally of an attacked minority is a wonderful thing and working alongside the community for equality and setting straight those that spew hate is very much appreciated and the right thing to do. But that is where it should stop to be honest. To put it simply, gay people do not appreciate being told by straight people how they should feel regarding things that involve our community any more than most women appreciate being told how to feel by men about issues pertinent to women. If you are in doubt at all then either don't comment on an article or just say how much you like the music and leave it at that.
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Post by scorpio on May 7, 2012 11:14:17 GMT -5
Please can someone pm the link to listen. I don't want to D/L Me too...
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Post by lambo on May 7, 2012 11:14:51 GMT -5
Anyone want to lend an ear for me and cassie? picosong.com/wPTg/This is a low harmony on Runnin' isolated. We both think it sounds like a natural i.e. not lowered artificially voice, we don't think it sounds vey much like Adam, but there's no one credited on vocals other than Adam on this song! ??? What do you all think, could this be Adam's natural lower regsiter?
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Post by nica575 on May 7, 2012 11:14:58 GMT -5
I need some super bionic ninja ears. On Runnin, at about 1:20, when he sings "The higher, the lower, the down, down, down." I THINK I hear an echo of the melody line an octave lower. Do you hear it? And if it is really there, is it Adam? Is it Adam's voice manipulated down the octave? Or, WTF, does he really sing a Frickin' D2??? Kanadie? Holst? nationalglampoon? Anybody? (For non-music geeks, that would be one of the lowest notes a BASS voice sings! And make his recorded range something just two tones short of four octaves. WTF?) Cassie- I was going to mention that also...(I did not as you people have much better ears than I do). It sounds to me as if it is autotuned or something like that... some "enhancement"...
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Post by anjalee on May 7, 2012 11:15:46 GMT -5
This album is a physical experience, it takes over your body. The songs pull you in and I actually feel the song, as if the high really is Kickin In, the Chokehold is pulling me back, I am Runnin and my heart is beating faster, and then I am floating on a cathartic state of Nirvana. Every emotion is there: defiance, empowerment, pride, seduction, release, joy, arousal, vulnerability, rawness, numbness, surrender, frustration, angst, nirvana....what have I forgotten? Love what you say. His capacity to experience LIFE. He puts it in this object What a gift to us.
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Post by gelly14 on May 7, 2012 11:16:40 GMT -5
Hi, long time lurker here:) Have been a big fan since the AMA. Think I followed Q3 here from MJ's? Anyway, I was trying really hard to resist and apparently failing, lol Could someone pm me a link please? SENT! AND WELCOME! :D
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